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| Mar-14-13 | | copablanco: Wikipedia says he was born in 1904, and in 1915
he went to the US to prove himself against the best
chess players...at ten or 11 years old?
He had an episode in New York while on a Fifth ave. bus by taking his clothes off !.More is mentioned in
The psychology of the chess player by Ruben Fine. |
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Mar-14-13
 | | chancho: From Sarah's Chess Journal:
<There have been rumors that [Torre's] breakdown occurred as a result of being jilted by his fiancée. Whether this is true or not is unclear, but it's not generally accepted. Dr Carlos Fruvas Gárnica, who treated Torre and seemed to be very close to him, reports that Torre, in fact, became a victim of his own success: "In 1926 there was no Mexican politician, generale, or rich retailer, or monopolistic millionaire that did not want Torre [attending] their social gatherings." It's his contention that Torre was used by political, military and financial leaders to augment their social standings. They had no interest and little involvement in chess, yet they invited (strongly) Torre to appear at their constant stream of social gatherings. They wined him and dined him, faking interest in a subject they knew nothing about. He felt like a rope in some tug-of-war.
So incessant were the invitations that he often had to refuse one to attend another. The political climate in Mexico of that time made refusing a dangerous thing. In short, the doctor believes Torre was a victim of stress and found the only way to escape this stress was to escape the reality of his existence, that is, to not be a famous chess player. "...they want to think that Torre lost the reason by some dark cause, I prefer to think that Carlos Torre retired voluntarily from chess not to have to report to that society of crazy people."> |
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| Mar-14-13 | | Caissanist: <The Psychology of the Chess Player> is not a reliable source, particularly for sensational stories such as this. Edward Winter has debunked many of the anecdotes in that book, and considers this particular one to be "unsubstantiated". |
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| Jul-22-13 | | adalthor: It says, among other things about Carlos Torre: "He made his international debut at the Moscow 1925 tournament and placed fifth". According to New in chess #4/2013, page 83 he played Baden-Baden [april/may] 1925, then in Marienbad, Moscow was only in November. |
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| Jul-22-13 | | TheFocus: It should probably be mentioned in his bio that he won the Louisiana State Championship in 1923. |
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| Nov-08-13 | | Karpova: New York, 19-year old Carlso Torre won the Western Chess Association Championship Tournament with 14.0/16 (+12 -0 =4) ahead of players like Whitaker and Reshevsky. From page 300 of the October 1924 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung' |
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| Aug-14-14 | | Mr. V: I think Caruana looks a little like him. Hopefully Fabiano Caruana never meets such a tragic fate. |
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| Apr-28-15 | | wrap99: Many, many years ago I met Marcel Sisniega who I believe told me that Torre was his teacher -- certainly plausible. It meant nothing to me in 1975 (when I met Sisniega) but I guess it would be interesting if someone could confirm. |
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| Nov-06-15 | | gabriel25: I seem to remember an incredible game with about six or seven queen oferings, never takable always poisoned, that ends with a mate on the last rank. It is in most antologies as beautiful an surprising. I also remember been told that it was actually a present, so his name would be on all chess books, and it is, from a chess master last named Torres in New Orleans to this patron who had been very friendly and generous with him. Maybe one of you erudites of chess can clear that up. The game from my description should be recognizable. Im am too old and forget some things but remember others. |
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| Nov-06-15 | | Mr. V: <gabriel25>
You're probably thinking of E Z Adams vs Carlos Torre, 1920 |
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| Nov-10-15 | | gabriel25: <Mr. V> Thanks, i saw the game, a real beauty! Read a lot of kibitzing on it.
It was a generous present to a generous patron of chess. Good gestures, both. |
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| Nov-23-16 | | TheFocus: Happy birthday, Carlos Torre. |
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| Nov-13-17 | | Amulet: Polish Opening: Kings Indian Defence. |
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| Nov-23-17 | | thegoodanarchist: < jessicafischerqueen: ... It should be noted that they are acting for a film "Chess Fever" in the scenes shown in this video:> Is the cure for chess fever more cowbell? |
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Nov-23-17
 | | juan31: "Our skill development does not depend on being experts at openings and being precise at endings, because there is no development without harmony... we should focus primarily in playing all stages of the game equally well, that is, play chess..."
"The strength that is accumulated should result in progress, and as a consequence, our continuous and growing effort will help improve our ability in advanced reason." Citas de : Carlos Torre Repetto |
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| Mar-28-18 | | Marmot PFL: That's what happens if you spend your days playing chess. Eventually, you get to beat Emanuel Lasker and create a Mexican Immortal game, but then again your wife will leave you for another man, probably one that plays soccer or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOD... |
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Sep-11-19
| | juan31: His work in chess is timeless |
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| Sep-12-19 | | andrewjsacks: A chess tragedy he is, along the lines of Pillsbury, for example. |
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Jul-13-20
 | | sachistu: The two games listed as Torre-Egidio, Mexico sim, 1928 were actually consultation games: gid 1581436 ECO B00 featured Carlos Torre Repetto and Costillo as White with Egidio Torre (Carlos' father) and Raul Torre (Carlos' brother) as Black. gid 1581435 ECO C31 featured Carlos Torre Repetto and Concepcion Torre (his sister?) as White with his father and brother Raul again as Black. The games were featured in 'Boletin de Ajedrez' in an article titled "The Torre Family in Action" and in the book Torre y Sur Contemporaneos by Gilberto Repetto Milan, and in Schackvarlden, 1928 #5 p110. I have been unable to confirm the relationship of 'Concepcion', but am speculating it was Carlos' sister. The Velasco book (Life and Games of Carlos Torre) does not seem to have complete details on the Torre family. |
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Jul-14-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
Nice catch <Sachistu>. |
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Jul-14-20
| | sachistu: You are welcome <jessicafischerqueen>. Perhaps one of our members has more details about the Torre family e.g sibling names. According to Velasco, there were 7 children (4 boys and 3 girls). However, most sources seem to only mention Carlos and Raul. |
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Jan-03-21
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<sachistu> Here are the two mislabeled consultation games corrections you requested: Carlos Torre Repetto / Concepcion vs Egidio Torre / Raul Torre, 1928 Carlos Torre Repetto / Costillo vs Egidio Torre / Raul Torre, 1928 |
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| Feb-09-21 | | Jean Defuse: ...
Phony Benoni chessforum :
Hello Phony Benoni, do you have any information about this forgotten pearl, which does not appear in Velasco's 'The Life and Games of Carlos Torre'? <Phony Benoni:> I am very sorry, but I have been unable to find any information about the game between Burgess and Torre. I cannot even find a clue to whom Burgess might have been... . [Event "New York, (ca 1925)"]
[White "Burgess"]
[Black "Torre Repetto, Carlos"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C11"]
1. e4 Nf6 2. Nc3 d5 3. e5 Nfd7 4. d4 e6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bd3 c5 7. Be3 Nc6 8. Bb5 O-O 9. Bxc6 bxc6 10. O-O Rb8 11. b3 f6 12. Na4 fxe5 13. dxe5 Qc7 14. Re1 Rf5 15. Bc1 Nxe5 16. Nxe5 Rxe5 17. Rxe5 Qxe5 18. Ba3 d4 19. Nb2 Bd6 20. g3 Qd5 21. Nc4 e5 22. Qh5 g6 23. Qh4 
click for larger view23... Be7 24. Qh6 Bg5 25. Qxg5 Bh3 26. f3 Qxf3 27. Qd2 Rf8 0-1 White cannot defend the threats of mate on f1 and g2. Source: Melbourne Weekly Times, 10th May 1930, researched by Alan A. Smith ... |
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May-03-24
 | | GrahamClayton: The April 2017 issue of the 'Oklahoma Chess Association' has a very detailed article aboit Torre's life: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qn... |
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May-03-24
 | | nizmo11: The updated second edition <'The Life and Games of Carlos Torre'> by Velasco and Kingston has the 'Burgess' game as a fragment from move 23. (game 111). This is in the chapter discussing the book "64 Variaciones Sobre un Tema de Torre", 1982 by G. de la Cruz. The game details in LGCT are not very helpful, they give:
<Allies (six in consultation) - Torre, Monterrey(?), 1933(?)>.
as the newspaper from 1930 shows, at last the year is incorrect.
According them de la Cruz in turn gives his source as 'Latin American Chess Masters' by Hans Cohn. |
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