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Sep-21-23
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  Stonehenge: <OCF>

You can see the transfers here:

https://ratings.fide.com/transfers....

Sep-21-23
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  OhioChessFan: Thanks <Stone>. I was going to add his nationality to his profile, but you appear to have done that in the last half hour. I wonder if switching federations, at least noting the year, should be routinely noted in bios, eg Caruana
Sep-21-23
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  Stonehenge: Well, it says <Russia (federation/nationality Hungary)>.

I don't see the point of stating again that he switched federations. Unless the reason is known so that there's some extra information.

Sep-21-23
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  Sally Simpson: A lot of people do not accept Staunton's excuse he was too busy with his edition of Shakespeare to play Morphy but today I was reading in a 1955 BCM it was confirmed that Staunton was paid £1,000 for his work on Shakespeare (approx £155,000 today.)

It also revealed he only received £150.00 for his Handbook. Looks like it was choice between Shakespeare and a small fortune or Chess and peanuts.

Sep-22-23
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  perfidious: Isn't Staunton's work still regarded as a classic?
Sep-22-23
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  MissScarlett: In the sense that nobody ever reads it, yes.
Sep-22-23
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  MissScarlett: <As shown above, David Hooper quoted a few words from a passage by Staunton in the Illustrated London News of 13 November 1858, page 460. C.N. 1032, published in 1985, gave the full text:

‘A PAWN (Facta non verba). – “A Pawn” labours under an egregious mistake in supposing Mr Staunton declines a match at chess with Mr Morphy from any apprehension of his prowess. Mr Staunton declines it for the simple reason that it is impossible for him, without a violation of engagements which would involve ruinous loss to others as well as to himself, to sacrifice three or four months for the sake of a contest at chess. To taunt him, therefore, for not doing what, with an Injunction over his head, he is absolutely debarred from doing, is about as valiant an act as to challenge a man who is under the heaviest recognizances to keep the peace, or to strike a prisoner. So far as the mere question of play is concerned, Mr S., though undoubtedly a pawn and two moves below his force when in full practice years ago, has shown more disposition to meet the American than the latter to meet him. Mr S. went to Birmingham and entered his name in the list of combatants at the late meeting there, mainly to confront Mr Morphy, but Mr M. thought proper not to appear. Since then, while expressing his utter inability, for reasons which are unanswerable, to undertake a long and serious match, Mr S., though immersed in literary labour, has proffered to receive the American as a guest, and break a lance with him for pure chivalry, but Mr Morphy has not condescended even to acknowledge the invitation.’

John Townsend comments:

‘The points made by Staunton in the passage which you quote seem perfectly valid.

His obligation to his publisher, George Routledge, was very real and not just an excuse. A development since 1985 has been that Chris Ravilious’s article in CHESS (December 1998, pages 32-34) has established that specific penalty clauses applied in the event of any failure to meet the agreed timescales, so it is quite possible that Staunton could have been sued, as he feared.>

https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

But without wishing to be the Louis Blair in the room: why did Staunton repeatedly give Morphy the impression that he would be prepared to play?

Not having seen the Ravilious CHESS article, it would be interesting if the figure of £1000 could be confirmed and the penalty clauses elaborated.

Sep-22-23
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  Sally Simpson: I took my info from BCM 'Quotes and Queries' 1955 (page 164 or thereabouts, this is from memory)

It stated Routledge confirmed the £1,000 fee, no mention of a clause but there is a good chance there will have been one.

It is possible Staunton did intend to play Morphy but when Edge took the Shakespeare delay as a personal affront and started attacking him in print Staunton got the hump. He knew he was nowhere near his peak and expected to lose, he did not want to give Edge the satisfaction.

You can pick up Staunton's work on Shakespeare on Amazon for £12.00.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-I...

(Recently I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon...I'll let you know.)

Sep-23-23
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  jnpope: Re: O Roething vs Marshall, 1900

<MissScarlett: Does Hilbert have game 7 of the match, Roething's only win? I haven't found that yet.>

I guess you've waited long enough:

Completed match: Marshall - Roething (1900)

All games source, etc. etc.

Sep-23-23
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  jnpope: I wonder if I should do a deep-dive into Marshall's career after Ajeeb is off my plate.
Sep-23-23
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  jnpope: I'm working on the following event,
New York Sexangular (1900). I have yet to come across mention of what Hymes won for having the best score against the prize winners or which game won the brilliancy prize (or what that prize was to be). If anyone so happens upon that information it would be appreciated.
Sep-24-23
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  fredthebear: Hmmm. Never had the privilege of competing in a Sexangular. Must be a New York thing. Is it rated? Invitation only? How does one qualify? Given my deep powers of concentration under any and all circumstances and my varied experiences, I'm confident that I would measure up to the competition.
Sep-24-23
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  perfidious: One would imagine that should be 'Sextangular'.
Sep-24-23
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  jnpope: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dic...

Sextangular is Spanish.

I guess Hexagonal would also be correct.

Sep-24-23
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  jnpope: I guess it depends if we go with Latin or Greek prefixes:

4 Quad/Tetra
5 Quin/Penta
6 Sex/Hex
7 Sept/Hept
8 Octa/Okta

Sep-24-23
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  jnpope: I know St. Petersburg 1895-96 is usually referenced as a Quadrangular tournament, so I stuck with the Latin prefix. *shrug*

I think Sextangular is an incorrect understanding of the Sex- prefix. Probably due to musical groupings (i.e. quartet, quintet, sextet, septet, octet, etc.). Or we are introducing a third language prefix into the mix.

Sep-24-23
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  fredthebear: Etsy has Sexangulars advertised for sale: https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/market/s...

Perhaps I will put in for the Angular Cheilitis Salve and the Memory Pillow:

Those We Love
Don't Go Away
They Walk Beside Us
Everday Unseen
Unheard,
But Always Near,
Still Loved, Still Missed
And Very Dear
Thinking of You Always
Great Grandma Simultaneous

Sep-24-23
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  MissScarlett: <Chess Journalists of America is pleased to announce that the archives of the late Jeremy Gaige are now available to the public and easily accessible from the CJA website.>

https://chessjournalism.org/the-gai...

Sep-24-23
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  jnpope: <MissScarlett>, thank you for posting that link. I'm happy to know his work was preserved. I wish they would have made a few items into PDFs, but just having the 1994 version of <Chess Personalia> available in any form is a fantastic resource.
Sep-24-23
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  jnpope: All games now dated (with adjournment info) and sourced: New York Sexangular (1900)

Only one game was incomplete, Marshall vs Lipschutz, 1900 (we had 49 of 54 moves).

Sep-25-23
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  jnpope: Re: <Manhattan Chess Club Championship, 1900.12.03—1901.01.06>

Does anyone have a contemporary source for the results to any of the following pairings?

R4: Finn vs Hanham
R6: Roething vs Hanham
R8: Roething vs Finn

Sep-25-23
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  jnpope: I just fired off an email to Mr. Rozman at the White Collection. Hopefully, I'll make a trip in October (presuming they can find/pull the items on my request list). I would like to finally answer some of the unresolved questions from the past few years.
Sep-25-23
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  MissScarlett: < I would like to finally answer some of the unresolved questions from the past few years.>

Why does Wesley So never wear a shirt?

Sep-25-23
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  jnpope: Detergent allergy. Next question.
Sep-26-23
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  jnpope: Marshall - Johnston (1899/00)

Dated, sourced, bio and xtab added. I'm not sure why they reduced the purse from $200 ($100 a side) to $150 ($75 a side), but the <Chicago Tribune> specified the second amount twice so that's what I went with as the official prize.
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