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| Mar-30-24 | | Messiah: Justin's in trouble! :-) |
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| Mar-30-24 | | Messiah: Justin won. :-( |
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Mar-30-24
 | | keypusher: Ding broke his draw streak. Rapport and Magnus playing lots of decisive games! |
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| Mar-30-24 | | Rdb: Arjun erigaisi playing in Grenke open - so far in 5 rounds ,he has 4 wins and one draw . 4 wins earned him 3.6 rating points and one draw cost him 4.2 rating points . . |
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| Mar-30-24 | | Rdb: This is the draw that cost Arjun erigaisi 4.2 rating points in grenke open <GM Arjun Erigaisi was held to a draw by promising Romanian talent - 12-year-old FM Henry Edward Tudor. The game reached at a queen vs rook and knight endgame after 34 moves. The boy defended for 102 moves and built a fortress to claim an important half point> https://www.chessbase.in/news/GRENK... |
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| Mar-30-24 | | fabelhaft: It has looked better for Ding Liren here than in previous events, but still unusual results for a World Champion against the top players. The highest ranked opponent he has won against as title holder is #25 in Tata, but in OTB games in all formats (classical, rapid, blitz and 960) against players ranked higher than 25th, Ding has at the moment scored +0-18=22. |
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Mar-30-24
 | | perfidious: <fabelhaft....The highest ranked opponent he has won against as title holder is #25 in Tata, but in OTB games in all formats (classical, rapid, blitz and 960) against players ranked higher than 25th, Ding has at the moment scored +0-18=22.> This makes Flohr finishing as bottom marker at AVRO look downright respectable, for all the negative press. Will Ding book a similar result to Leningrad-Moscow 1939 and return to form? |
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| Mar-31-24 | | metatron2: <Check It Out: <HeMateMe: hey, real chess>
Almost. It's 45m + 10sec>
It seems like someone up there was reading <Atterdag>'s comments after all.. Since he is been talking forever, about getting those intermediate time controls into the top level (and more specifically about getting them into WC matches). |
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Mar-31-24
 | | HeMateMe: Well, it's kind of looking like Ding will be 'world champion' like Ponomariov and Khalifman...But, let's wait and see. Ding may yet surprise the chess world. |
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Mar-31-24
 | | Atterdag: Hi, <mt2>, I just saw your post. LOL - I don't think anyone outside these forums read my suggestions, but that's also of no matter as long as they implement the core of the idea: A hybrid between classical chess and rapid. Perhaps, if they introduced 45-60 minutes INSTEAD of the classics, both in the Candidates and in the WC matches, Carlsen would give it a go again. Messiah would be thrilled! I know, it's never going to happen, but one is allowed to make wishes, right? :-) |
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| Mar-31-24 | | paavoh: <<GM Arjun Erigaisi was held to a draw by promising Romanian talent - 12-year-old FM Henry Edward Tudor. The game reached at a queen vs rook and knight endgame after 34 moves. The boy defended for 102 moves and built a fortress to claim an important half point>> <Henry Edward Tudor> That is a royal name for sure. |
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Mar-31-24
 | | MissScarlett: I've been treating this tournament all along as if the 'fast classical' time control meant the games were still rated as classical. How mistaken I was! <A ‘Rapid chess’ game is one where either all the moves must be completed in a fixed time of more than 10 minutes but less than 60 minutes for each player; or the time allotted plus 60 times any increment is of more than 10 minutes but less than 60 minutes for each player.> https://rcc.fide.com/appendixa/ |
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Mar-31-24
 | | PawnSac: well it looks like Fridman, the lowest rated player has a better overall performance than Ding. hmm. so what do we expect in the wcc? |
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Apr-01-24
 | | tamar: The string of disappointing results for Ding makes the coming Candidates Tournament more like the 1948 World Championship Tournament. Of course Ding could recover, but it seems unlikely now, as even he seems unsure why he is faltering. |
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| Apr-01-24 | | fabelhaft: <well it looks like Fridman, the lowest rated player has a better overall performance than Ding> After finishing shared last with Fridman, Ding at least finally won a game in the tiebreak playoff against him. Not the most impressive one though. First Fridman won against Ding, and then in their next game Fridman blundered away a fairly simple win and lost. Given that Fridman is in the 2500s in classical and rapid (and 2400s in blitz), he is not anywhere close to be included in the ”results vs players higher than 25th” stats where Ding now has +0-20=23 as World Champion. |
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Apr-01-24
| | Atterdag: Ouch, that statistic hurt! The steep fall in playing strength of Ding Liren has become a real conundrum. I assume he has been CT and MRI scanned by the best doctors in his homeland, thorough blood tests have been made, etc. etc. All of it clouded in the secrecy, which seems to be standard procedure in autocratic countries. A year has passed, though, and he/they can't continue the secrecy forever. Unless he wants to repeat Carlsen's scandalous late announcement of resigning the title, we have to expect that he wants to defend it. It's already too late to use health reasons as an excuse. |
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| Apr-01-24 | | Bobby Fiske: < Unless he wants to repeat Carlsen's <scandalous> late announcement of resigning the title, we have to expect that he wants to defend it.> Scandalous, really? Was it that late? As far as I remember, Magnus followed protocol. Waiting for FIDE to announce the event with terms (place, date, prizes, regulations, etc), he declined within the given deadline. And it wasn't a surprise desission, since he had declared his opinion well in advance. When it comes to Ding, I believe he will play. In spite of health issues, 40% of the prize fund goes to the loser. Good money for most top players. |
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Apr-01-24
| | Atterdag: <Bobby Fiske: Scandalous, really? Was it that late? ...> Yes and yes. Carlsen could have and should have announced his resignation months BEFORE the Candidates started. This isn't a matter of protocol, this is about a world champion who had ample time to make up his mind about keeping the title after he defeated Nepo. Instead he launched dim and vague thoughts about his position, leaving the chess world and the colleagues who were about to play in the Candidates in the dark. It had severe consequences. When the candidates entered the tournament and played it through, they were in good faith to assume, only the winner would have a go for the title. Resigning shortly AFTER the Candidates suddenly elevated the second place to a seat in a match for the world championship, something none of the candidates could foresee during the course of the tournament. Right up to the meeting in Spain, no one except Carlsen knew his actual intentions. There were plenty of speculations about his indications. Was he serious? Were they just a leverage to make FIDE construct a time format to his liking? Alone the fact that months passed with these indications hanging, only Carlsen is to blame for. IMO he was disrespectful not only to FIDE, but also to the candidates and the chess world. If he was in doubt, he should have shut up about it until he had reached a decision within himself. As he acted, he troubled a lot of people - completely unnecessarily. So, yes, it was a scandal, and yes, Carlsen is to blame for that. |
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| Apr-01-24 | | fabelhaft: Carlsen won the ”final” match against Rapport. After winning the first game with white he managed to draw the second somehow in spite of being quite lost in the endgame. Ding finished ahead of Fridman after winning their two game match. |
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| Apr-01-24 | | fabelhaft: Carlsen has now won his six latest events:
Champions Chess Tour Final
World Rapid Championship
World Blitz Championship
Chessable Masters
Freestyle Chess G.O.A.T Challenge
Grenke Chess Classic |
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| Apr-01-24 | | EvanTheTerrible: None of which were classical chess. One wasn't even chess. |
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Apr-01-24
| | Atterdag: <fabelhaft: Carlsen has now won his six latest events ...> ... and he is, of course, still numero uno regardless of who wins the Candidates and the consecutive match. He is indisputably the strongest chessplayer in our time. |
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Apr-02-24
 | | chancho: <None of which were classical chess. One wasn't even chess.> True, but he <did win> those events with the strongest players in the world participating. So he still deserves props for his successes. |
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| Apr-02-24 | | ultrausurper: There are some games missing here... Ding won two games against Fridman, but only one of those wins are here. |
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Apr-02-24
| | MissScarlett: Apologies. I didn't realise there was a tiebreak round to determine places 4-6. Games added. |
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