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Aug-04-16 | | morfishine: Reshevsky was truly great.
Naysayers can have their say, but their posts drift away in the wind like a random tumbleweed I am no great fan of Reshevsky, but one should put aside bigotry and focus on the facts: he was a really great player For him though, no pity, he left his mark
A mark that ignorant people cannot remove
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Aug-05-16 | | RookFile: Yes, quite right. The older I get, the more I remember the comment made in the beginning of "The Great Gatsby", that when you feel tempted to criticize somebody, remember that he may not have had as many advantages in life as you do. With Reshevsky, he was always fighting an uphill battle because he did not know the openings like other world class players did. Ok, but suppose Reshevsky were playing today, in this age of computer databases, where with a few clicks, he turns an opening weakness into a strength. All of a sudden, Reshevsky's other qualities - his tactical abilty, his defensive tenacity, etc. suddenly set him head and shoulders above his competition. He was always a terrific match player - now you give him opening knowledge too. I don't see how he loses to anybody. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | HeMateMe: Sammy worked full time while a chess player. I think he was an accountant his whole life. That had to dig into the time that one needs to research the openings. He was USA champion in the '50s in spite of this. When Fischer came along, perhaps it was too late to teach an old dog new tricks? |
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Aug-05-16
 | | MissScarlett: <Naysayers can have their say, but their posts drift away in the wind like a random tumbleweed.> Very poetic. Now please provide details about who these naysayers are, and give examples of their scurrilous attacks against poor Sammy. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | keypusher: <HeMateMe: Sammy worked full time while a chess player. I think he was an accountant his whole life. That had to dig into the time that one needs to research the openings.> He was supported by a group of wealthy chess fans during the 1950s. <The mind of Samuel Reshevsky has been conditioned to this creative process for almost literally a lifetime. He started playing chess at the age of 5, he was a veteran at the age of 7, it has been his principal source of livelihood for most of his life; and when economic circumstances once threatened to infringe upon his game a group of chess devotees and admirers raised enough money to make sure that he could go on playing as long as he lived. To Reshevsky this seemed perfectly reasonable; from his childhood on, his self-assurance as a chess player and therefore as a man more privileged than ordinary mortals has been supreme.....
After a rather unhappy but necessary period during which he foreswore serious chess at the instigation of the late Julius Rosenwald, the head of Sears, Roebuck & Co., who financed his sadly neglected education, Reshevsky settled down to a scientific study of the game. He decided to devote himself completely to it in 1950 when he relinquished a budding career in accountancy, and since then the game has had no serious competition in his life, save from religion, to which Reshevsky, grandson of two rabbis, devotes almost as much time as chess. When the economic necessities of maintaining a family of four (he has a daughter, Sylvia, aged 11, and a son, Joel, of 6) threatened to overwhelm him, a fund was raised among chess lovers by the late Maurice Wertheim, a wealthy broker, which gave Reshevsky some $3,000 a year to supplement the $6,000 to $7,000 a year he makes in tournaments and exhibitions.> That's from the SI vault. Link doesn't work anymore. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | MissScarlett: <He was supported by a group of wealthy chess fans during the 1950s.> If you mean Jews, just say so. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | HeMateMe: but did he actually stop working as an accountant, or did he stay in it at least part time? from wiki:
"Samuel "Sammy" Herman Reshevsky (born Szmul Rzeszewski; November 26, 1911 – April 4, 1992) was a Polish chess prodigy and later a leading American chess grandmaster.< He was never a full-time chess professional.> He was a strong contender for the World Chess Championship from the mid-1930s to the mid-1960s:" |
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Aug-05-16
 | | MissScarlett: He was too busy cooking the books to study them. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | offramp: There seem to be two different opinions.
There is the link from : <<keypusher:> <...Reshevsky settled down to a scientific study of the game. He decided to devote himself completely to it in 1950 when he relinquished a budding career in accountancy, and since then the game has had no serious competition in his life...>> Then there is wikipedia's << He was never a full-time chess professional.>> But they are not irreconcilable. I believe accountants in the USA have a very busy month when tax returns are due. I remember it on The Simpsons. Tax returns have to be in on a specific date. Reshevsky may have had two or three big-paying clients for which he only worked flat-out for a month or so. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | saffuna: Here's a page listing the Sports Illustrated articles which mention Reshevsky: http://www.si.com/vault/search?term... |
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Aug-05-16
 | | keypusher: <saffuna>. The article I'm quoting, by a man named Kobler from 1955, no longer appears in the vault. Maybe it's like Disney movies, they make them available for a while and then they hide them away again. |
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Aug-05-16
 | | chancho: <keypusher> I used the inflation calculator to see how much 9 grand a year in 1950's dollars is worth today. That's the equivalent of $90,200.21 in 2016 dollars.
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculat... |
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Aug-05-16 | | morfishine: <MissScarlett: <Naysayers can have their say, but their posts drift away in the wind like a random tumbleweed.> Very poetic. Now please provide details about who these naysayers are, and give examples of their scurrilous attacks against poor Sammy> Hey <MissScarlett> Go jump off a cliff I don't provide anything to idiots like yourself, even if you did say please Have a nice weekend
best always, morf
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Aug-06-16 | | greed and death: <MissScarlett: I doubt it was flying off the shelves, but does anybody have the Reshevsky book by Stephen Gordon?
I'd like to know how many simul games it has from Reshevsky's tour of the US in 1920-22, and whether it has a detailed list of those exhibition dates.> Gordon's bio has 55 games from the 1920-22 tour and dates for 52 simuls |
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Aug-06-16
 | | keypusher: < offramp: There seem to be two different opinions.
There is the link from : <<keypusher:> <...Reshevsky settled down to a scientific study of the game. He decided to devote himself completely to it in 1950 when he relinquished a budding career in accountancy, and since then the game has had no serious competition in his life...>> Then there is wikipedia's << He was never a full-time chess professional.>> But they are not irreconcilable. I believe accountants in the USA have a very busy month when tax returns are due. I remember it on The Simpsons. Tax returns have to be in on a specific date. Reshevsky may have had two or three big-paying clients for which he only worked flat-out for a month or so.> Yeah, that or wikipedia is wrong. I understand it's happened once or twice before. I would take a contemporaneous article in a quality magazine citing names, dates, and specific dollar figures over an anonymous article in a free online encyclopedia. |
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Aug-06-16
 | | SteinitzLives: <keypusher> Yes, a contemporaneous article would naturally trump wikipedia. In this specific case, note that accountants come in all forms and fashions, public private, gov't, solo practitioners, tax or audit specialists, not to mention, do I dare: consultants and frauds, (sorry for the redundancy). Having worked at one of the big 5-8 (depending on the year) accounting firms, some time ago, "busy season" for the tax side was Jan. 1 to April 15th. My sense (looking at Reshevsky's chronological playing record) was that he had some job flexibility and could play not only when circumstances allowed, but also when the opportunity to make some extra cash (which he was notorious for diligently chasing) came his way. If he had some big paying clients he was responsible for, he probably stayed away from chess, when he didn't, and got a good invite, hello chess. |
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Aug-06-16
 | | MissScarlett: Hastings and St Leonards Observer, Saturday 27 July 1935, p.20: <A curious happening occurred on Saturday of the first week. Reshevsky, who is a Polish Jew, told the committee his religion would allow him to play the game, but not to take a record of it, so in case of a win he could not hand in a record as required by the rules. This was met by a steward being deputed to sit by his side for nearly four hours, recording the moves he made and keeping the clock going.> The event was the Major Open of the BCF Congress held in Great Yarmouth. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabb... |
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Aug-06-16
 | | MissScarlett: <Gordon's bio has 55 games from the 1920-22 tour and dates for 52 simuls> Thanks. We're not doing too bad here. Looks as if we have 45, give or take (are those 55 just simuls?). If I ever get around to doing a simul tour collection for Reshevsky, I might have to buy Gordon's book. |
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Aug-07-16
 | | MissScarlett: Here's Reshevsky's playing record from 1931, when he re-emerged as a professional player, until 1949, that I've been able to establish with the help of the DB. I've stuck to major tournaments and matches, but, at least according to the DB, the number of extraneous games seems to be remarkably few. <1931 Western Ch 9 games
1932 Western Ch 11 games; Pasadena 11 games
1933 Western Ch 13 games
1934 Western Ch 16 games; Syracuse 14 games
1935 Margate 9 games; Great Yarmouth 11 games
1936 US Ch 15 games; Nottingham 14 games
1937 Kemeri 17 games; Stockholm Ol 16 games; Semmering/Baden 14 games; Hastings (1937/38) 9 games 1938 US ch 16 games; AVRO 14 games
1939 Leningrad/Moscow 17 games; ACF Congress 17 games 1940 US Ch 16 games
1941 US ch match 16 games; NYSC Ch 10 games
1942 US Ch 15 rounds; US ch p/off 11 games
1943 NYC Rapid Transit ch 18 games
1944 US Open 17 games
1945 Pan-American Congress 11 games, USA-URS radio match 2 games 1946 US Ch 18 games; USA-URS match 2 games
1947 -
1948 FIDE WC t 20 games
1949 ->
I'll come onto his later career, uhhh, later. |
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Apr-23-17 | | zanzibar: A fairly rare piece of actual live footage of Reshevsky vs. Najdorf (1953): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkY...
Must be one of these games:
Reshevsky - Najdorf (1953) Which one, I wonder? |
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Apr-23-17 | | zanzibar: Oh, wait a minute - the clip shows Najdorf and Reshevsky, but not necessarily both at the same board at the same time. What are we seeing?
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Apr-24-17 | | RookFile: Reshevsky waited too long in his career to study the opening. |
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Apr-25-17
 | | offramp: Najdorf & Reshevsky were born one year and 136km apart. |
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May-27-17 | | Budo: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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Jul-23-17
 | | mifralu:  click for larger viewWhite to play and checkmate in 3 moves.
This little problem by A.B. Hodges was shown to Samuel Reshevsky during his visit of the Manhattan Chess Club, 3 November 1920.
He solved it in less than 4 minutes.
Source: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l... |
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