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Ding Liren
Ding Liren 
Photo by Emir Gamis 

Number of games in database: 1,657
Years covered: 2001 to 2024
Last FIDE rating: 2734 (2776 rapid, 2785 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2816
Overall record: +274 -95 =488 (60.4%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 800 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Queen's Gambit Declined (105) 
    D37 D38 D35 D39 D31
 King's Indian (80) 
    E60 E62 E94 E90 E97
 Slav (69) 
    D17 D12 D15 D16 D11
 English, 1 c4 e5 (58) 
    A20 A29 A28 A21 A22
 Grunfeld (53) 
    D70 D85 D78 D76 D90
 Catalan (51) 
    E06 E01 E04 E05 E03
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (137) 
    C78 C84 C65 C77 C67
 King's Indian (78) 
    E60 E63 E94 E99 E81
 Queen's Pawn Game (57) 
    D02 E10 A45 E00 D04
 Sicilian (56) 
    B90 B42 B51 B22 B52
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (55) 
    C84 C89 C92 C91 C85
 Caro-Kann (46) 
    B12 B17 B18 B10 B13
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   J Bai vs Ding Liren, 2017 0-1
   Ding Liren vs Aronian, 2013 1-0
   Kamsky vs Ding Liren, 2011 0-1
   Ding Liren vs H Ni, 2009 1-0
   Firouzja vs Ding Liren, 2022 1/2-1/2
   Ding Liren vs S Lu, 2012 1-0
   Ding Liren vs E Inarkiev, 2015 1-0
   Y Hou vs Ding Liren, 2009 0-1
   H Wang vs Ding Liren, 2010 0-1
   Carlsen vs Ding Liren, 2019 0-1

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Chinese Championship (2009)
   Chinese Championship (2011)
   Chessable Masters (2022)
   World Cup (2019)
   World Junior Championship (2012)
   Chinese League (2011)
   Magnus Carlsen Invitational (2020)
   Chessable Masters (2020)
   Charity Cup (2022)
   Chinese Chess League (2016)
   Tata Steel Masters (2015)
   Chinese Chess League (2017)
   Legends of Chess (2020)
   Chinese Team Championship (2015)
   Istanbul Olympiad (2012)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   2020 The Corona Beer & Black Bears Matter Mo Ode by fredthebear
   World Championship (2023): Nepo - Ding by 0ZeR0
   World Championship (2023): Nepo - Ding by plerranov
   FIDE World Cup 2019 by jcgandjc
   Ding Liren 1. d4 by OnlyYou

RECENT GAMES:
   🏆 Ding - Gukesh World Championship Match
   Ding Liren vs D Gukesh (Dec-12-24) 0-1
   D Gukesh vs Ding Liren (Dec-11-24) 1/2-1/2
   Ding Liren vs D Gukesh (Dec-09-24) 1-0
   D Gukesh vs Ding Liren (Dec-08-24) 1-0
   Ding Liren vs D Gukesh (Dec-07-24) 1/2-1/2

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DING LIREN
(born Oct-24-1992, 32 years old) China
PRONUNCIATION:
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Grandmaster (2009), three-time Chinese Champion (2009, 2011 and 2012), World Champion (2023). He will defend his title against Dommaraju Gukesh beginning in a few days (November 25-December 13, 2024).

Championships

<Youth and Junior> Ding Liren was runner up on tiebreak to Nan Zhao at the 2004 World U12 Championship in Heraklio. He placed =3rd at the World Junior Championship (2012), half a point behind Richard Rapport and the ultimate winner, Alexander Ipatov.

<National> Ding Liren (丁立人) first competed in the Chinese Championship when he turned 13 in 2005, scoring 3.5/7. He competed again in the 2008 event before winning the Chinese Championship (2009), becoming the youngest player ever to win the Chinese national title, This result also gained Ding the final GM norm he needed to be awarded the GM title. In 2011, he won the national championship a second time, when he took out the Chinese Championship (2011) with a round to spare, and two points clear of the field. Ding completed a hat trick of championship wins in China when he won the Chinese Chess Championship (2012) outright with 8/11, a full point clear of outright second placed Yangyi Yu. He narrowly missed a fourth championship win in the Chinese Championship (2014) when he placed =1st alongside Yangyi Yu, but came second on tiebreak. A year later, Ding finished clear second, behind fellow wunderkind Wei Yi at the Chinese Championship (2015).

<Continental> Ding gained his first GM norm, a double norm, at the 8th Asian Continental Chess Championship (2009). Soon after winning the 2012 Chinese Championship, he placed equal fourth (sixth on tiebreak) at the Asian Continental Chess Championship (2012).

<World> In 2007, Ding scored 6.5/9 at Chinese Zonal 3.5, failing to qualify for the World Cup (2007) by the narrowest tiebreak. He subsequently qualified for the World Cup (2011) as nominee of the FIDE President, but lost the first round rapid game tiebreaker to Filipino prodigy, GM Wesley So, thereby exiting the competition. He qualified by rating for the World Cup (2015) in the first round he played and defeated Canadian Tomas Krnan in the opening round to advance to the second round where he defeated Ernesto Inarkiev. In the third round he overcame Gadir Guseinov to win through to the Round of Sixteen where he lost to compatriot wunderkind Wei Yi to exit the event.

Ding finished second to Ian Nepomniachtchi in the World Championship Candidates (2022). After world champion Magnus Carlsen announced that he would not defend his title, Ding and Nepomniachtchi met for the title in the Nepomniachtchi - Ding World Championship Match (2023). Ding won in tiebreaks to become world champion.

Standard Tournaments

In August-September 2010, he was =3rd at the Florencio Campomanes Memorial Tournament in the Philippines, half a point behind the joint winners Le Quang Liem and Jun Zhao. In October 2011, he placed =4th with 6.5/9, a half point behind the three joint leaders, Jianchao Zhou, Truong Son Nguyen and at the 1st Qinhuangdao Open Chess Tournament. There followed =3rd behind Hua Ni and Xiangzhi Bu in the 3rd Hainan Danzhou Super Grand Master Chess Tournament held in June 2012 and =2nd (3rd on tiebreak), half a point behind the winner Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, at the SPICE Cup (2012).

In February 2013, Ding placed =4th with 7.5/10, half a point behind the three co-leaders at the Reykjavik Open (2013). In April 2013, he was invited to the category 20 Alekhine Memorial (2013) his 3.5/9 was near the bottom of the field, but against that it was close to a par for rating performance, and includes a brilliancy against the eventual winner of the event, Levon Aronian. (1) In May 2013, Ding Liren won the Hainan Danzhou GM (2013), a category 15 event, outright with 7/9. In July-August 2013, he came =2nd (3rd on tiebreak) at the category 19 Biel (2013) tournament. He placed =3rd at the Cappelle-la-Grande Open (2014), equal first at the Hainan Danzhou GM (2014) and 5th at the Petrosian Memorial (2014).

Ding Liren's best result to date came at the Tata Steel Masters (2015) in January 2015, when he scored 8.5/13 to place =2nd alongside Anish Giri, Wesley So and Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, half a point behind the winner Magnus Carlsen. This result pushed him into the world's top 20 and became the second best player in Asia, second only to Anand. A few months later in July 2015, he played in the category 17 Hainan Danzhou GM (2015), placing outright 3rd with 5.5/9 (+3 -1 =5), an absolutely rating-neutral result, behind the winner Yue Wang and runner-up Hua Ni. He was equal third at the quadrangular round robin event, Bilbao Masters (2015), staged in October 2015, drawing all his games with a performance rating slightly below actual rating. He reprised his result at Wijk aan Zee when he again placed equal second at the Tata Steel Masters (2016) behind Carlsen and alongside Fabiano Caruana. During this event, he momentarily overtook Anand as the top Asian player in the live ratings.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Ding played board 3 for China at the Istanbul Olympiad (2012) held in Istanbul in September 2012, narrowly missing both team and individual medals when he scored 7.5/10 with a TPR of 2764. He played board 2 for China at the Tromso Olympiad (2014), winning individual bronze and team gold.

<World Team Championships> Ding played for China at the World Team Championship (2011) as a reserve, helping his team to win silver. Playing board 2 for China in the World Team Championship (2013), he won team silver and individual bronze and won the team gold and individual silver (on board 2) at the World Team Championship (2015).

<Regional Team Championships> Winning the the 2012 Asian Team Championship Chinese Team Selection Tournament qualified Ding to play in the 17th Asian Team Championships held in Zaozhuang, China in May 2012. There he won team gold and individual silver playing board 4 for China. At the 18th Asian Team Championships held in 2014, he won team and individual gold (for board 1).

<Summit Friendlies> He played on the Chinese team that lost to Russia in the Russia - China (2009) summit event. A few years later Ding was a member of the Chinese team at the Russia - China (2012) summit, which was won by China in the classical section, although Russia won the overall event. In April 2015 he helped China defeat India in their summit match in Hyderabad. Ding was also a member of the Chinese team in the novel China - Russia Challenge (2015) event, which involves one member of each team playing one game at a time, with the winner of the game remaining to play opponents from the next team until he loses, at which time the new winner "defends the stage" against the next opponent(s) from the other team. In his match up against Sergey Karjakin, Ding drew the classical game and traded wins in the two blitz tiebreakers before bowing out in the Armageddon blitz game that Karjakin drew as Black. The second half of the event was completed at the end of 2015, and won by Russia.

<National Leagues> Ding Liren's first FIDE rated game was at the 2004 Chinese Team Championship, when he scored 1/4. He has played for the Zhejiang team in the Chinese League since at least 2008 inclusive. During this time, his team took the bronze in 2010 and he has played 134 games with a 67.9% result ( +65 =72 -17) overall. He won team bronze in 2010.

Ding Liren played for the T.S. Alyans team in the Turkish Superleague in 2014, his team placing 5th.

Rapid and Blitz

On 13 May 2012, Ding Liren played in the 11th Asian Blitz Championship and placed equal second with 7/9, half a point behind Wesley So. He participated in the IHMS Mind Games staged in Huai'an in China in 2016. The Mind Games consisted of men and women's groups each contesting rapid, blitz and Basque portions of the event. He won the Basque portion (two rapid games played at the same time against the opponent) of the event after scoring 4/7 in the IMSA Elite Mind Games (Rapid) (2016), a point from the lead, and 17.5/30 in the IMSA Elite Mind Games (Rapid) (2016), two points from the lead.

Match

Ding Liren won the Ding Liren - Gelfand (2015) match held in July 2015 by 3-1 (+2 =2). He was eliminated in the first round of the China Chess Kings (2015) by Shanglei Lu.

Ratings and Rankings

Ding Liren's initial rating was 2230 in January 2004. He rapidly rose in the ratings, crossing 2600 in November 2010 and 2700 in October 2012. He did not fall under these benchmarks at any time since. He was one of the world's top juniors ranking in the top 20 from January 2011 exiting in January 2013 when he was too old to be qualified as a Junior. His highest ranking was world's #3 Junior throughout the 2012 calendar year. He also entered the world top 100 in May 2011 and has remained in that elite group on continuous basis since then.

His highest rating and ranking to date occurred in June 2018 when his rating climbed to 2798, and his world ranking to #4.

References

Everipedia article: https://everipedia.org/wiki/Ding_Li... Wikipedia article: Ding Liren ; Live ratings: http://www.2700chess.com/;

(1) Ding Liren vs Aronian, 2013

Last updated: 2024-11-22 08:54:47

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 page 1 of 67; games 1-25 of 1,657  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Ding Liren vs W Wu  0-1552001Chinese Team ChampionshipC67 Ruy Lopez
2. C Wang vs Ding Liren 1-0432001Chinese Team ChampionshipE86 King's Indian, Samisch, Orthodox, 7.Nge2 c6
3. Ding Liren vs Zhang Jianhua 1-0592001Chinese Team ChampionshipC41 Philidor Defense
4. Tang Zijian vs Ding Liren 1-0352001Chinese Team ChampionshipD03 Torre Attack (Tartakower Variation)
5. Ding Liren vs Y Xu  ½-½612001Chinese Team ChampionshipB12 Caro-Kann Defense
6. Y Wen vs Ding Liren  1-0582001Chinese Team ChampionshipC00 French Defense
7. R Liu vs Ding Liren  ½-½742001Chinese Team ChampionshipC01 French, Exchange
8. Ding Liren vs Huang Yicheng 1-0352001Chinese Team ChampionshipC42 Petrov Defense
9. Ding Liren vs T Qiu 1-01082001Chinese Team ChampionshipB29 Sicilian, Nimzovich-Rubinstein
10. L Bregadze vs Ding Liren  0-1602002Wch U10E81 King's Indian, Samisch
11. Ding Liren vs So 1-0232004Wch U12A04 Reti Opening
12. Ding Liren vs S Sjugirov  1-0702004Wch U12A05 Reti Opening
13. H Ni vs Ding Liren  ½-½292008TCh-CHN AC10 French
14. Motylev vs Ding Liren  1-0462008TCh-CHN Torch Real Estate CupC10 French
15. J Zhou vs Ding Liren  ½-½6620098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipE87 King's Indian, Samisch, Orthodox
16. Ding Liren vs Negi  ½-½3020098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipD85 Grunfeld
17. Ding Liren vs E Ghaem Maghami  ½-½7320098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipE15 Queen's Indian
18. T S Nguyen vs Ding Liren  ½-½6520098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipC07 French, Tarrasch
19. Ding Liren vs H Abdullah 1-03420098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipE17 Queen's Indian
20. D Khamrakulov vs Ding Liren  0-16120098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipC00 French Defense
21. Ding Liren vs E Hossain 1-04320098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipD17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
22. Le Quang Liem vs Ding Liren  ½-½2020098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipA48 King's Indian
23. Sasikiran vs Ding Liren  1-04320098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipA48 King's Indian
24. Ding Liren vs A Filippov  ½-½6620098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
25. Ding Liren vs A Gupta 0-15020098th Asian Continental Chess ChampionshipD02 Queen's Pawn Game
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May-04-23  ex0duz: Even if we Include blitz and rapid along with classical, in their last 25 games(from 2021-23) the score is 6 - 4 to Ding. Hardly a domination. If anything, Ding is ahead from their most recent clashes over the last 2-3 years.

I'd like to see just rapid, since I believe Ding doesn't play as much blitz and yeah, it's still blitz in the end, anyone can win or lose on the day. If Ding can make it to a blitz playoff in classical world championship match, that's already not "Carlsen dominates Ding". Maybe in blitz at most over their lifetime but that has not been proven either to me(more accurate would be earlier in their careers) and tourney blitz is much different than WCC match blitz after you've already played 18 games of classical and rapid and are still even and just need to win 1-2 blitz games and draw the rest which is more than possible for Ding.

Based on their scores in the last 25 games where ding is leading 6-4, no one can say that Ding will be "dominated"(ie 4-0) or can't win in a blitz tie break play off of 2 or 4 games or however much it is. If anything ding is the slight favourite based on their most recent results but like I said it doesn't mean anything, only will be decided on the day.

At the end of the day, winning a classical WC in blitz tie breaker is not something I want to ever see. At least rapid still has some sense of credibility going for it.

May-04-23  ex0duz: And like I said before, Ding already beaten Carlsen in the 2019 sinquefield 4 game rapid and blitz tie breaker to win sinquefield tourney. So there is already precedent for ding to beat carlsen in a 4 game blitz tie breaker in WC. If ding can make it through 14 classical and 4 rapid and still be even, I'd say he will go in with the advantage in mentality since carlsen should be the favourite and beaten him before that point so Ding should be in great form or Carlsen not as much in form.

Based on their respective elo, 2850 vs 2800, is a score of +1=10 to be expected? If anything shouldn't it be higher? So that also means Carlsen has more problems with Ding than he should based on elo.

May-04-23  ex0duz: Hmm that's weird now that I think about it. Ding has never beaten carlsen even once in classical before, and they've only played 11 games classical games altogether isn't that too low? I was like 100% sure that they've had more than one decisive game in their whole career.
May-04-23
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  OhioChessFan: If Carlsen had been playing instead of Nepo, I think it would have been something like 7-3.
May-04-23
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: I guess 6.5-3.
May-04-23
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: How do you play 9.5 games?
May-05-23  derfderf: I am a total Ding fan. I followed him since 2015 and always thought he would be a WC challenger someday. And I also wanted him to be WC, I was so happy that he got it. But realistically speaking, even though I don’t want to admit. Carlsen is better and more stable in his play. Ding said once that Carlsen invited him to train together and played many rapid games and he said in Chinese once that “he lost half of them and drew the other half” Nonetheless I still very much want to see a Carlsen Ding match. I think Ding will be much more emotionally stable with this experience now, so the match will be very interesting. While I think Carlsen will ultimately win, I still root for Ding
May-05-23
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  HeMateMe: three time national champion of China, but the last time was...11 years ago? Strange. He seems an unlikely world champion.
May-05-23
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  Sally Simpson: Hi HeMateMe,

In January 2022 you could not even place a bet on Ding being the 2023 world champion, if you could the odds would be 10,000-1.

You needed Carlsen to quit, Karjakin to be an idiot and come March 2022 Ding had played only 4 games in that rating year and had to squeeze in 28 games before the end of April.

He had a bad start to the Candidates and possibly due to that and his late entry the others did flimsy prep.

Ding stepped up a gear in the 2nd half of the candidates, came second and into the final. A real see-saw final could have gone either way. A brilliant entertaining match, some great chess played by both sides.

Two moves of Ding's really stand out. His 44.Qf7 in game 6 and 46...Rg6 in the last play off game.

Chess is a wonderful game. Despite ratings and computers the good lady Caissa can still stun us, she chose Ding Liren to be her world champion. A wise choice. From the doldrums of predictability suddenly chess is random. Anything can, it just did.

There was a touch of luck in Ding getting to the final. Some say we make our own luck but Ding had nothing to with what happened with Carlsen and Karjakin the two main events that saw him in the candidates.

To sum up, Ding being the world champion was LSD. Luck, Skill and Determination. Hail King Ding!

May-05-23  metatron2: <Sally Simpson: You needed Carlsen to quit, Karjakin to be an idiot and come March 2022 Ding had played only 4 games in that rating year and had to squeeze in 28 games before the end of April>

Why did Ding need "Karjakin to be an idiot" in order to get into the candidates? how come a top 3 player didn't get into the candidates in the first place (practically a top-2 player since Carlsen wasn't part of the candidates) ?

Reminder: players could get into the candidates from either: World cup 2021, Grand Prix 2022, or Grand Swiss 2021.

So what happened with Ding in those 3 tournaments ?

May-05-23  fisayo123: <derfderf> Ding has a very respectable H2H score vs Carlsen post 2017. Most of Carlsen's wins came from 1 tournament in St.Louis when Ding clearly was not ready for the big time and actually Carlsen literally hand-picked Ding to be his opponent in that event.

Ding has been one of Carlsen's toughest opponents for sure.

May-05-23
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  beatgiant: <metatron2>
World Cup 2021: Ding did not attend because of China's pandemic-related restrictions on international travel.

Grand Prix 2022: Ding did not attend due to health issues.

Grand Swiss 2021: Ding declined his invitation. I can't find any official announcement of the reason, but this was during the pandemic.

May-05-23  fabelhaft: Ding Liren’s first game as World Champion is already tomorrow, with white against MVL in Bucharest. Round 2 he is white against Caruana, round 3 black against Nepo.
May-06-23
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  Sally Simpson: I was reading something earlier that in an interview Ding said if he lost the final he was going to give up chess.

https://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopi...

May-06-23
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  Check It Out: Yes, that was a post-match interview. These guys burn out quickly. They play intensely from age 7-30, and then they've had it. Modern gms play a lot more otb games than old school gms. Not to mention the tens of thousands of online blitz and bullet games.
May-06-23  stone free or die: Here's the interview itself - I assume his first sit-down interview as WCC -

<World Champion Ding Liren: "I thought if I lost the match, I'd retire from chess">

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYj...

(I always wish that Ding was EQ'ed at 2x the volume of the rest)

Aside- I wonder who decided who went first in the tweeter hashtag: <Nepoding> (Age before beauty?)

Looks too much like a verb to me.

May-06-23  ex0duz: In his first game since becoming WC, he basically got a QGA and an easy draw with white vs MVL in about 25-30 moves. Both played well with not even one inaccuracy.

So far so good. Seems like he's taking it easy so far. Shouldn't he have rested more first? I mean he just finished playing an emotionally and physically grueling WC match just a few days ago. I hope he didn't just play solid without going for any risky lines now that he's WC, but who knows. Wasn't that how he got that 100+ game unbeaten streak and also got his highest rating of all time? Maybe he needs to go back to such a style. No more Ng5 h6 h4 fishing poles every second game vs 2800s and certainly not against Carlsen lol.

He should pick up the London vs Carlsen since he said in a recent interview that the London is Carlsens weapon of choice when he wants to play without prepping.

May-06-23  stone free or die: I think one of the biggest lessons Ding learned from the grueling WCC competition was to "stay hydrated".

A good lesson for us all.

May-09-23  tomhau: Ding is the Best player un the world.
My number one 1
Love from the world
May-10-23
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  Joshka: <Petrosianic> I don't lie. Numbers are correct, and you know it. If you can read? You just choose to use only classical games, but we are in the age of everything goes now, blitz, rapid, and of course you knew that's what i was talking about. Like playing stupid hey? 40 to 22 with 52 draws, that's dominate.
May-10-23
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  chancho: <I don't lie.>

That's a lie right there.

Everyone lies!

May-10-23  Petrosianic: <Joshka: <Petrosianic> I don't lie.>

I cited several examples of your doing so, which you have yet to dispute. But let's look at the one and only one that you ARE disputing...

<Numbers are correct, and you know it. If you can read? You just choose to use only classical games, but we are in the age of everything goes now, blitz, rapid, and of course you knew that's what i was talking about. Like playing stupid hey? 40 to 22 with 52 draws, that's dominate.>

Exactly, numbers don't lie, but you do. To recap what you're talking about, I said that Carlsen's record against Ding was +1-0=9, a number confirmed by this site's own database. You just now admitted it was true (i.e. "You just choose to use only classical games...") But initially you said that that statement was a lie, knowing that it wasn't. That was a lie on your part.

Had you said something like "That's only classical games, man! Blitz and Rapids! THAT'S the measure of chess strength!", that would not have been a lie. Had you said "Carlsen would have a huge advantage against Ding in a Rapids playoff", that would have been a very reasonable opinion, but definitely not a lie. Instead of saying those things, you chose to lie.

To recap, any factual statement you know to be false is a lie, even if you're very emotional when you say it, and even if you believe that you're telling it in a good cause. I hate to belabor such an obvious point, but I've got the feeling that you may not even have known what a lie is up till now, and may be distressed to suddenly realize how many you've told over the years.

May-10-23
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  perfidious: <Petrosianic....I've got the feeling that you may not even have known what a lie is up till now, and may be distressed to suddenly realize how many you've told over the years.>

Many in life are sold a bill of goods and are too lacking in perception, whatever the reason, till it is too late. Self-deception is the worst sort of lie in many ways.

May-10-23
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  Sally Simpson: 'On the chessboard, lies and hypocrisy do not survive long.' - Lasker

(who btw was a bigger cheapo merchant than even me - what a hypocrite! :))

I see in that Ding interview he has not changed. We have to grant him a ton of of leeway because English is not his mother tongue but he really should at least try and look happy.

When I met him it was really difficult getting anything out of him. I think he like Scotland, hard to tell.

I soon got bored with him and went off looking for Anand to see if he wore a wig. Much more fun. Twice he caught me looking intensely for the join. If it a wig it's a good one.

What else is new...Oh Yes Nepo does not like being called 'Nepo' anymore due to the modern term 'Nepo-Baby' (kids born of celebs who have been given a lift up the ladder due to who they are. Nepo in this case = Nepotism.)

So how about; The chess player formally known as 'Nepo.'

We could call him Ian but then people would get him mixed up with Ian Rogers.

Ian Rogers' last post (of two) here was in the furor that followed Wes So and Pavel Eljanov agreeing to a 3 move draw to share first prize in the 2013 Reykjavik Open.

Eljanov vs So, 2013 (kibitz #58)

Ian was set upon by some here (he too was called a hypocrite) and no doubt thinking this place is infested with argumentative nutcases (which carries more than a slight grain of truth - it is!) he never came back.

May-10-23  Petrosianic: <Sally Simpson> <Nepo does not like being called 'Nepo' anymore due to the modern term 'Nepo-Baby'>

At least the Finding Nepo jokes are mostly forgotten.

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