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Member since Jun-05-04 · Last seen Sep-28-22
An American amateur.

Following are positions on many hot-button issues of the site.

Greatest player of all the 18th century? Philidor.

Who would have won a hypothetical Staunton-Steinitz matchup? Steinitz.

Was there an unwritten "win by two" clause in the Lasker-Janowski (1910) match? No.

Did Alekhine deliberately throw the 1935 title match, so as to get a rematch and thus be paid twice for playing Euwe? Hmmm....

Did Stalin order Flohr not to try hard to beat Botvinnik? No.

Who would have won a never-played Fischer-Gligoric match? Fischer.

Did Kenneth Rogoff write an update to "Eight Centuries of Financial Folly" called "Nine Centuries of Financial Folly"? No.

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   beatgiant has kibitzed 5310 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Sep-27-22 H Steiner vs R Siemms, 1954
beatgiant: <Saniyat24> Do a game search where White player name is Steiner and ECO code is E80. The result is 11 games, all by Herman Steiner. So why do you say <doesn't seem he is the 'Steiner', of the KID Saemisch Steiner attack>?
   Sep-27-22 Julius Baer Generation Cup (2022) (replies)
beatgiant: <Chessius the Messius> <more... than there are holes in the RAH> Can someone explain to me what's the RAH here? My best guess is Royal Albert Hall, referencing the lyrics from Beatles' "A Day in the Life" (Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire; And though the ...
   Sep-20-22 Karpov vs F Olafsson, 1971 (replies)
beatgiant: <Zugzwangovich> Black has <20...Bxa3>, and the resulting ending looks drawish.
   Sep-16-22 Champions Showdown 9LX (2022) (replies)
beatgiant: <Atterdag> My third line above was wrong, because I missed 23. cxd6 Qxd6 24. Qxd6+ Rxd6 25. e5? Nxe5 26. f4 <Neg4>, avoiding the skewer tactic. If nothing else, simply 25. Nxc6 with two bishops against two knights but that's only "White is much better." I didn't ...
   Sep-13-22 Kenneth Rogoff (replies)
beatgiant: <nok> <Chinese have alphabetical order?> Here we are talking about the Science Citation Index, and the names appear there in Latin script derived from the romanizations. But yes, there are systems of lexicographic order for Chinese ideographs too. Those are generally
   Jul-25-22 Ian Nepomniachtchi (replies)
beatgiant: Alekhine: lost in 1935, won in 1937. Smyslov: failed to win title in 1948 and 1954, won in 1957. Botvinnik: lost in 1957, won in 1958, lost in 1960, won in 1961. Spassky: lost in 1966, won in 1969. Kasparov: failed to win title in 1984, won in 1985. Anand: lost in 1995 (plus a ...
   Jul-18-22 Carlsen vs Ivanchuk, 2015 (replies)
beatgiant: <ChessHigherCat> 17...Bxc3 <18. Bg2> wins back the piece because the bishop is pinned. The ensuing complications look good for White.
   Jul-17-22 Caruana vs V S Gujrathi, 2020
beatgiant: <Helios727> There used to be exceptions to the 50-move rule that allowed 100 moves in specific endings where there is a forced win that requires more than 50 moves. And yes, 2 bishops versus knight was one of these exceptions. But the exceptions were removed at some time ...
   Jul-10-22 Tarrasch vs Schlechter, 1902 (replies)
beatgiant: <nimzo11> I had trouble following your line above, but assuming you reach the following position: [DIAGRAM] It seems White would play here <1. f4> instead of your Rb1. Black might still hold this ending, but it will be a lot harder since it looks like he will have ...
   Jul-09-22 Razuvaev vs L Gutman, 1977 (replies)
beatgiant: <Messiah> Nicht gut? Not a gut buster? Leads to no more than a gutteral groaning sound? All guts, no glory? GOTD pun fun lies gutted in the gutter? Here, have a smile.
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  diceman: <keypusher: Hi, <beatgiant>, hope you're well. The weird punctuation happens when I post from my iPhone. When I post from my Mac I have no issues.>

I've seen this also, but not with a phone.
With a Windows 10 computer.

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  beatgiant: <diceman>
Can you point to any example of such a kibitz? The timing is important, because we changed things within the last week.
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  diceman: On rogoff, I was trying to type the word <healthcare> in a post.

It looked something like this in the preview: <healt- hcare> with a dash and space inserted.

I tried retyping it several times, and couldn't get it to work, so I just left it out.

<healt- hcare> Not sure that was the exact spot, but it was a dash and space.

It's the first time I've seen something look different in preview.

If I come across it again, I will post to see if it posts that way.

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  beatgiant: <diceman>

Here's an attempt to reproduce that behavior:

asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf- asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfadsfasdfasdf- asdf

What I see in the preview is a hyphen after the first 48 characters, a second line with a hyphen after 48 characters, and then a space and a final 'asdf'

I doubt it's a new thing caused by the recent change in the kibitzing previews, but I will investigate and see if there is any easy fix for that.

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  beatgiant: <keypusher>,<OhioChessFan> It looks like this iPhone issue might be affecting many kibitzers, so I'd like to get some more details.

Can you (either of you) describe your keyboard layout settings? Are you able to customize it to different languages? Also, can you post here from your phone a test sentence with diacritical marks, as below?

Hübner didn’t play …0—0 in a Réti and scored ½. He was not born in Mähren like Takács was.

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  beatgiant: <keypusher>,<OhioChessFan> My first guess is your phones are using a proprietary Mac character encoding like MacRoman I'd need some more sample posts to make sure. Also can you check which version of MacOS your phone is running?
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  OhioChessFan: As conversant as I am with the computer, I am as slow witted with the cell phone. I'll try to figure out what you're asking for here. It's an Android by the way.
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  beatgiant: <OhioChessFan> If it's an Android, your case is probably different than <keypusher>'s. Forget about the questions. Can you please try posting the test sentence from your phone? As below:

Hübner played …0—0 in a Réti and scored ½. He wasn’t born in Mähren like Takács was.

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  beatgiant: <OhioChessFan> Actually I have an android phone too and I'll test it myself in the near future. I've always known we haven't yet done enough testing on the mobile version of the site.
Feb-07-22  login:

Reply to the Bistro posting (there it was already flooded with walls of most boring trivia/chitchat meanwhile so this is a better place) what I consider a rare proper statement of yours (as dev)

'When <login> demanded a fix for Western European inputs ..'

Where did I demand anything? My posting right after the initial site update said CG (you were not even involved at that time, good observation) must have a close look especially at the 'kibitzing' as there were immediate encoding errors present. If there will not be an timely fix this would develop into a snowball because 100% members have the ability to kibitz. For testing purposes I added a data set where different errors could be examined.

Months later in one single posting I took the freedom to consider a downtime of 2-3 days setting up the server from scratch my preferable solution (with reasons) and that (to this day) I don't understand what 'input fixes' even mean in practice. After that there was no posting towards the technical department. Answering a direct question by the owner with examples and correct time frame that does not require technical understanding is perfectly valid. So is your reply to it.

'.. I will admit that I'm disappointed to see people who know hardly anything about the technical situation behind the site ..'

At this point everyone is more or less disappointed let us skip that for now. Your next point is a much more interesting one is clearly in your favour. Technical aspects of things (access, working conditions, infrastructure) all combined I personally don't know any details and that is why there were never insinuations my criticism is based on that non existing knowledge either.

'The bottom line is, if you want it to get fixed faster, apply to join the team.'

Not my line as 'time' is no issue (see the server setup posting, a resistant solution has priority). Never seeked a special role limiting my freedom hence my 'superpowers' that come with being a normal member operating within the guidelines of this site are chosen on purpose. My kink is operating on higher difficulty.

Feb-07-22  login:

Next point.

There is no need to ask a third party about you as crtisism of members operating withing the CG guidelines is never aimed to hurt feelings. When someone is exploiting a certain role (coming with considerable duties) on the other hand that is difficult to ignore. It gets really ugly when someone is pushing into a role that is not appropriate to the community well-being (like cancerous 'selfless' Caissa bashing). You are far from that.

Susan Freeman the person is none of my business, still she uses (regrettably from early on) only one 'Susan Freeman' handle mixing up privat/job regularly. That leads to the strange behavior that almost everything that targets site issues will be addressed to the much more 'responsive' casual Susan persona. The same for stevemcd87 and you beatgiant. Everyone can take it 'personally' to their liking because all roles are shared by one handle. This invites speculation on your part towards my motives which is perfectly normal. To me there is an immanent flaw using one handle for different roles for more sensible discussions. Probably slowing things down on CG when several exchanges cannot pass the point of personal (not very productive) misconceptions so easily. Understand I post in beatgiant's forum but I need 'you both' to listen. Of my concern is 100% the dev only.

Attention: Never must members be allowed posting under more than one handle (abuse is wide open) in this context, totally different back office-staff (here this should be mandatory).

If you know a solution on how I can address beatgiant/dev without interfering with beatgiant/beatgiant in the future that would be most helpful.

That is my bottom line.

Now it's late and a busy week lies ahead.

Delete after reading.


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  beatgiant: <login>
Everyone is always welcome to give opinions about things like priority of issues, whether it's worth it to shut down for days for repairs, etc. Those kind of user opinions are a major help for setting our priorities. I want to be absolutely clear here. If anyone posts opinions about the repairs they care about, I will always take it into account.

But what's disappointing is to read vague remarks about taking "months" for something I delivered days after it came to my attention, assuming something is "easily fixable" although you can't have any idea what exactly caused that particular error, etc. Those reflect on my workmanship here. Yes, I haven't yet made everything absolutely perfect in a few months, but do you understand the scale of the tasks required?

My remark about joining this team was aimed at another kibitzer, but truthfully, I have no role in recruitment here and I agree it was out of place for me to say that.

To your point about identities, there is no separation between "beatgiant the repair worker fixing the damage on the site" and "beatgiant the community member." I'm doing these tasks because I'm so far the only one who has come forward with both the ability and the willingness. Could I be doing something lucrative instead of this? Hint: <jnpope> posted that he won't work here because <Susan> can't afford his services.

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  beatgiant: <login>
Now the most important question you raised is: repair first the game collections, or the kibitzing from a mobile device?

Game collection errors do snowball. During the time I've been repairing them, already some collections were promoted to historical event pages. Before the repair, those almost always had glitches in the ½ characters in crosstables and score reports, often also in the player names, place names, punctuation marks etc.

Users also often clone collections from other users. I've repaired many of the same errors several times over because a collection and its clones all shared the error.

I've also seen it happen that a user deleted his broken collection before I had time to deploy the repair for it.

So there are a few reasons why game collection repairs have some urgency.

On the other side, yes there are still annoying errors in kibitzing, but it's a lot rarer than it was before the repairs last fall, and it doesn't look like it's making many contents illegible. There are still at this moment quite a few game collection contents that are in a much worse state.

All things considered, I think it makes sense to finish fixing the game collections first. But again, I welcome all opinions here and if you bring any other strong reasons or preferences around the matter, I'll take them into account.

Feb-08-22  login:

Please, remember without site premium search one has to put some time into finding specific postings in time. There were no current updates on the issue to my knowledge and I wasn't in the the mood to go through a 'fresh' database dump for the date. Still a (formally correct) offhand remark like 'months' was not my brightest hour, lesson learnt.

The separation of roles was hinted at the impossibility to address something professional here without allowing recipients a chance to fall back on a personal level with a much more complicated outcome for both. My short statement made you disappointed which in the end does not help keeping motivation high to remove certain persistent hickups best which is for the benefit of everyone. I shoot myself (∈ ∀) in the foot so it should have been formulated with more care.

'Do you understand the scale of the tasks required'

That's part of my critisism and yes, I do think so by abstraction. Patching might 'never' end - see the 'snowball' example (severity of exacerbating feedback) later on. Giving a considerably short downtime a shot (hit or miss) remains my preferred scenario. Being aware what you and more so stevemcd87 are dealing with here - the difficulty working for a most voluntile and free spinning backoffice, I fear this might not going to end well. To jnpope he (with the help of certain sponsors) is selling himself very well, not sure if that's backed by reality most of the time. The owner is loaded due to personal circumstances and money should not be of a great concern. The site is doing ok during special times.

One more example why 'patching/fixing' on CG to me does not solve a root issue:

Remember fixing these ugly exuberant bios of all these old, famous, more or less interesting chess personalities? The godsend were overly happy and that theme (thankfully) never returned on the daily drama channels. But it is not gone at all unfortunately, still in plain 'sight'.

Give me a random ID that was affected/posted in the Bistro back then and I look it up.

Feb-08-22  login:

Following an advice that repeating once is already one time too many future remarks will concentrate on encouraging team 'patching' - a most practical choice.


- Kibitzing (this steamship's fuel) is always my first priority as it generates most traffic, members staying on the site the longest all while it produces new content for different interests for free. At the same time 'it [a replacement character in kibitzing] doesn't look like it's making many contents illegible' is true at least for my reading experience. Corrupted input is/was my main concern, right now we are talking cosmetics.

- "Register now. It's quick, free, and anonymous. This will allow you to "kibitz" in our discussion forums, make game collections, and use other powerful features. " Game collections might be the most iconic CG feature ever, but I miss the love and willingness to make it more intuitively available for newcomers. Under normal circumstances not a priority at all, but snowballing within any system (living or dead) should be fought at all costs (nobody can predict where it breaks out). A bit undecided here. Gut feeling taking your observations more serious collections should be locked or stay untouched until a possible repairing schedule is created that is considerably faster and in effect able to catch up with possible new error production. Just a typical race scenario.

Boiling it down to something meaningful:

With a knife on my throat collections are my prio over kibitzing under this circumstances.

Again all this can go smoothly in the bin after reading, not much to add at this point.


Feb-09-22  Z free or die: At the risk of butting in (forum bombing?!?) on a thread I've really over just skimmed over...

From a past exchange, elsewhere, on analysis I've come to suspect that <beatgiant> is a pretty sharp card.

I also know, from reading various technical posts (and sometimes having to reread them), that the same can be said about <login>.

For whatever reason I just wanted to add my 2¢.

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<Z> I think the same. We are lucky that <beatgiant> agreed to join the Admin team eh...

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  jnpope: <beatgiant>, are there any plans to expand the Source and Event fields (and perhaps Site fields ) to a varchar(255) size?

It's nothing urgent, but it would be nice to not have to abbreviate or truncate certain sources or event names just to shoehorn them into the current allotted field size.

Just something more for you to add to the TODO list when you have the time. Again, nothing urgent, but a nice "to have" item.

Feb-12-22  Z free or die: As requested, a snippet reposted from the Bistro:

<PS- All PGN tags should go with varchar(255) to match the standard.>

Biographer Bistro (kibitz #23264)

Feb-13-22  Z free or die: <beat> might like to make a selection here:

Avatar Area

maybe. (The default is a little, er, generic)

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  beatgiant: Testing, 1, 2, 3, testing...
Jun-10-22  Z free or die: The beat is back!
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  beatgiant: Testing
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  Messiah: <beatgiant: Testing>

Test failed.

Jun-10-22  Z free or die: Sorry to be so obvious, but here ya go!


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