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Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. Wei Yi vs Caruana |
| ½-½ | 31 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C67 Ruy Lopez |
| 2. R Praggnanandhaa vs Abdusattorov |
 | ½-½ | 46 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | A21 English |
| 3. J van Foreest vs V Fedoseev |
| ½-½ | 46 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C42 Petrov Defense |
| 4. M Warmerdam vs A Sarana |
| ½-½ | 51 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | A06 Reti Opening |
| 5. A Sarana vs Wei Yi |
| ½-½ | 54 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C48 Four Knights |
| 6. V Fedoseev vs D Gukesh |
| ½-½ | 43 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | D39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation |
| 7. A Erigaisi vs Giri |
| ½-½ | 51 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | B92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation |
| 8. Keymer vs M Warmerdam |
| ½-½ | 66 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | A06 Reti Opening |
| 9. L Mendonca vs Harikrishna |
| ½-½ | 44 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | E52 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Main line with ...b6 |
| 10. J van Foreest vs A Sarana |
| ½-½ | 42 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | B50 Sicilian |
| 11. Wei Yi vs Keymer |
| ½-½ | 27 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C53 Giuoco Piano |
| 12. Giri vs V Fedoseev |
| ½-½ | 30 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C55 Two Knights Defense |
| 13. D Gukesh vs Caruana |
| ½-½ | 24 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | D38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation |
| 14. Caruana vs Giri |
| ½-½ | 34 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation |
| 15. A Sarana vs D Gukesh |
| ½-½ | 70 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | D37 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 16. Abdusattorov vs Wei Yi |
| ½-½ | 41 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | E24 Nimzo-Indian, Samisch |
| 17. Keymer vs J van Foreest |
| ½-½ | 58 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | D31 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 18. M Warmerdam vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| ½-½ | 40 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C01 French, Exchange |
| 19. L Mendonca vs A Erigaisi |
| ½-½ | 30 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | E10 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 20. Giri vs A Sarana |
| ½-½ | 43 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C55 Two Knights Defense |
| 21. Wei Yi vs Harikrishna |
| ½-½ | 22 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C11 French |
| 22. L Mendonca vs M Warmerdam |
| ½-½ | 33 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | D35 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 23. Keymer vs Giri |
| ½-½ | 54 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | E60 King's Indian Defense |
| 24. R Praggnanandhaa vs Wei Yi |
| ½-½ | 58 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C83 Ruy Lopez, Open |
| 25. Harikrishna vs J van Foreest |
| ½-½ | 54 | 2025 | Tata Steel Masters | C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense |
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Feb-03-25
 | | Teyss: Hi perfidious,
Of course, how didn't I think about this before? What an easy way to cook the numbers. Hi fabelhaft,
Thanks for the info, we indeed cannot draw conclusions based on a single tournament. The same applies to Erigaisi. |
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Feb-03-25
 | | chrisowen: Pragg the raspberry mess :) |
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Feb-03-25
 | | eternaloptimist: Pragg the raspberry mess❓❓🤷♂️🤔 |
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| Feb-04-25 | | Atking: I just saw the last blitz. It was a totally equal position until Gukesh with black pieces, refusing an obvious draw, lost his mind and made few horrible decision. Obviously exhaustion more than chess was the factor. Did Gukesh recover from his flu he had a the start of the tournament? |
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Feb-04-25
 | | FSR: Experience triumphed in the playoff, as the veteran Praggnanandhaa, almost 19 1/2, triumphed over world champion Gukesh, nine months younger. |
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Feb-04-25
 | | HeMateMe: The Indians have conquered chess!
Can NBA basketball and heavy metal music be far behind, I ask you? |
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Feb-04-25
 | | perfidious: <FSR>, after all these years, it was time for payback for the encounter D van Foreest vs J Mieses, 1949. Pragg showed the bugger! |
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Feb-04-25
 | | Sally Simpson: <HHeMateMe>
The Indian heavy metal scene is already here. The Mumbai based Albatros (sic) are just as good if not better than a lot of Western bands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_t... |
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| Feb-04-25 | | EvanTheTerrible: <Experience triumphed in the playoff, as the veteran Praggnanandhaa, almost 19 1/2, triumphed over world champion Gukesh, nine months younger.> The experience that comes with age prevails once again! |
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| Feb-04-25 | | Atking: <EvanTheTerrible: <Experience triumphed in the playoff, as the veteran Praggnanandhaa, almost 19 1/2, triumphed over world champion Gukesh, nine months younger.>
The experience that comes with age prevails once again!> Sure! If experience and age can tell, Gukesh - by the way World Champion - is the youngest participant of this tournament. Even Mendonca is 2 months older! |
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Feb-05-25
 | | PawnSac: <EvanTT & Sally, & others > thank you for the clarification. FIDE is getting pretty confusing. I agree with those who think classical events of this stature should have rapid playoffs first, and not go right to blitz. But I don't see a problem with shared placings. It's a better reflection of the players skill in the classical format. settling the tie with a blitz is like a tie in a marathon run, and settling it with a 60 yard dash.
It's not the same. But whatever.. |
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| Feb-05-25 | | stone free or die: <<PawnSac> settling the tie with a blitz is like a tie in a marathon run, and settling it with a 60 yard dash. It's not the same. But whatever..> Good analogy - one I might have to borrow! |
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Feb-05-25
 | | Tabanus: <Play-off games: Tata Steel Masters tiebreak (2025)> Not only the always lacking crosstables, but also still the unnecessary laziness of <two> separate pages for the same event. |
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Feb-05-25
 | | Check It Out: <Sally Simpson: <HHeMateMe>
The Indian heavy metal scene is already here. The Mumbai based Albatros (sic) are just as good if not better than a lot of Western bands.> <SS> I couldn't be happier that you posted this chunk of metal. Stereotypical stuff with good riffs. The vocals leave a bit to be desired. Fun nonetheless! |
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| Feb-05-25 | | goodevans: <… the unnecessary laziness of <two> separate pages for the same event.> It’s better this way. Mixing the two would be hugely confusing. Of course we wouldn’t have this dilemma if the second part hadn’t happened. Put me in the camp with those who thought that was the truly <unnecessary> part. |
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Feb-05-25
 | | Atterdag: New in Chess #1, 2025 has arrived. A stellar issue with lots about the WC match and the rapid/blitz championships. Particularly notable is a multipage script of Carlsen's videos, which followed the match games. Some highly interesting analysis and notions to crucial moments in the games. It is rare to see Carlsen's thought on print, so NiC made a scoop. Generally he blames Ding Liren for being too passive in favourable positions, for not pushing harder to win, when opportunities occur. He lauds Gukesh's ability to calculate precisely, but he is generally not overly impressed by the Indian's play. To the last, decisive game - the fatal 55.Rf2?? in particular - he comments the following: <Ding had plenty of time left on the clock. Instead, he rushes and makes one of the most consequential blunders we have seen in a World Championship. Gukesh did all the right things to get here, but it was still far from winning. Ding had enough time to find Black's plan of manoeuvring the bishop to e4 and act accordingly. Instead, he played this nothing move and lost the game. Seeing Gukesh emotional after winning was beautiful, but the chess that got him there was not.> |
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| Feb-06-25 | | NrthrnKnght: Seeing Gukesh emotional after winning was beautiful, but the chess that got him there was not.> Hummm well, I am going to stir the pot a bit. In 1970 there was 82 GMs worldwide at 2500 for the norm. Now in 2024 there are 2000!! In 1970 there was ONE GM over 2700. In total since then there have been 182!! My contention is the field is weaker, and FIDE is to blame. The rating for a GM needs to raise to at LEAST 2600 if not more. The pool of rating points have ballooned so big IMHO the GM rating is watered down and not "worth" as much as the past. I have seen better nags in a $2500 claiming race! |
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Feb-06-25
| | Sally Simpson: <NrthrnKnght>
A frequent complaint. It's too late now but FIDE should have stuck to the rule only players qualifying for the candidates would be awarded the G.M. title. Using this method in 2014 when I was on my high horse Anatoly Karpov (kibitz #5645) bemoaning about GM titles there were just under 100 players who could be called valid GM's. You will have heard of most, if not all of them unlike today when they are popping up all over the planet. That was 11 years ago when I frothed at the mouth about all things and everything. 'I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.' (Thank You Bob) Maybe they could invent a class system. A GM's start at Class III, Class II GM when a player goes over 2700, Class I when a player goes over 2800. (automatic Class I if they ever qualify for a candidates.) <Atterdag>
A wonderful and deep insight from Carlsen. Ding rushed his move and blundered. (insert sarcastic mojo here) But he is correct about Ding being too passive when he had the initiative. (for instance see see game 5 where I chip suggesting he may not trust his OTB stamina.) CHESS magazine (Feb 2025) has a good ringside write up by Junior Tay covering the critical games of the match. Regarding the Rf2 blunder. After giving armchair warriors a slight pasting because without an evo bar they would have no idea what was happening, Junior has played back and reviewed various commentators reaction it. Before Ding played it apparently Leko and Naroditsky thought it was a playable move. Howell spotted the winning method right away. Nakamura was chatting mid-stream, screwed up his face when seeing 55.Rf2 and took 8 seconds to refute it. In the CHESS article Gukesh admits he nearly played and was considering 55...Rb3 which would have allowed Ding to draw. Him playing 55...Rxf2! spared us another for and against debate about tie breaks to settle World Championships. Jay sums up the blunder by saying after 13 grueling rounds Ding finally cracks. (hmmm...game 10...maybe 12 grueling rounds.) |
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Feb-07-25
 | | plang: The minimum rating for a GM of 2500 seems antiquated now. In my opinion it should be revised. |
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Feb-07-25
| | Atterdag: <NrthrnKnght> You have some very valid points. With so many GMs and ways to gain the title it has lost much of its prestige. There's a long and interesting history of the title as seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand... Wiki mentions the informal Super GM for GMs over 2700. But instead of adding to the superlatives, they could invent a new title with super grand requierements such as 2700 as a minimum - among more! No I have no suggestion to such a title, but I am not fond of modern cartoon superlatives like mega, super, giga etc. Hi Geoff,
Thanks for your always readworthy musings. Wouldn't your class system by ratings collide with the soul of the title: that once you've earned it, it's yours for life? Btw, I think your class system already is at work in practice, when organisers decide who to invite to their tournaments. The title system is as old as chess as we know it. It was a way to make some kind of rough ranking in the masses of players. Now it feels outdated, not syncronized with the chess of today, but I think it is very hard to change. In many ways the chess world is very conservative in that regard. |
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Feb-07-25
| | Sally Simpson: <Hi Atterdag>
Once you go up a class, even if it was only for a month you remain in that class. It was just a thought, akin to the Dan system they have in Judo. It is something to aspire too once you are a GM III stick in and get Class II or Class I instead of just sitting on your laurels. I too am not overly keen on 'Super or elite GM's etc' |
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Feb-07-25
| | Atterdag: Hi again, Geoff,
Ah, I see. That improves your suggestion. But then we have the local ELO-factories, like those who gave Ding Liren admittance to the Candidates. Sigh - it's not easy to find an objective system. Right now the live ratings say that Giri is 21, MVL 23, while good ol' Anand is 13 and Dominguez Perez is 14. Hm. |
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Feb-07-25
| | Sally Simpson: <Hello again Atterdag> Do away with getting into the candidates by rating, give that spot to a guest chosen by the federation that offers the largest purse to host the event always remembering that FIDE takes a 20% cut.
That way a Federation can get a Class I GM and FIDE get loads of dosh. |
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Feb-07-25
| | Atterdag: Geoff - LOL - did you enjoy your glass of Oloroso? My guess, of course.:-) |
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| Feb-09-25 | | Chessinfinite: Great tournament for WC Gukesh and Praggnanandha.. a take over by the two players, Congrats. |
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