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Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. Adams vs C Monroy |
 | 1-0 | 29 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | B12 Caro-Kann Defense |
| 2. H Nezad vs Caruana |
| 0-1 | 38 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | E33 Nimzo-Indian, Classical |
| 3. J Mullon vs Ivanchuk |
 | 0-1 | 35 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | C48 Four Knights |
| 4. F Vallejo Pons vs S Melia |
| 1-0 | 48 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | B63 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack |
| 5. C Vernay vs Bologan |
| 0-1 | 50 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | A58 Benko Gambit |
| 6. Onischuk vs I Gaponenko |
| 1-0 | 30 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | D38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation |
| 7. E Fernandez Romero vs Nisipeanu |
| 0-1 | 35 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | B40 Sicilian |
| 8. K Georgiev vs N Zhukova |
| 1-0 | 36 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | E32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical |
| 9. J Sarkar vs Harikrishna |
| ½-½ | 87 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | E32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical |
| 10. Short vs A Slavin |
| 1-0 | 33 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | E10 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 11. K Stokke vs Fridman |
| 0-1 | 36 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | A13 English |
| 12. M Roiz vs D Boskovic |
| 1-0 | 52 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | B36 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto |
| 13. M Andersen vs S Chanda |
| 0-1 | 52 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | D12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav |
| 14. R Edouard vs A Wohl |
| 1-0 | 45 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | C60 Ruy Lopez |
| 15. J Bellon Lopez vs V Iordachescu |
| ½-½ | 17 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | A45 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 16. E Berg vs J Thomassen |
| 1-0 | 30 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | C94 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Breyer Defense |
| 17. I Karim vs V Akobian |
| 0-1 | 27 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | C14 French, Classical |
| 18. Kotronias vs R Bellin |
| 1-0 | 26 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | C45 Scotch Game |
| 19. D Cummings vs G N Gopal |
| 0-1 | 47 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | A15 English |
| 20. V Erdos vs R S Jones |
| 1-0 | 46 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | E70 King's Indian |
| 21. E Karavade vs G Jones |
| ½-½ | 109 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | E92 King's Indian |
| 22. R Felgaer vs M Peek |
| 1-0 | 42 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | B58 Sicilian |
| 23. T Kantans vs V Ikonnikov |
| ½-½ | 29 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | B22 Sicilian, Alapin |
| 24. Andersson vs A A Zaremba |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | D13 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Exchange Variation |
| 25. N Getz vs Mikhalevski |
| ½-½ | 67 | 2011 | Gibraltar Masters | C67 Ruy Lopez |
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| Feb-02-11 | | kurtrichards: <Gibraltar round 9: Caruana vs. Ivanchuk> They are my favorites...hope they draw. :) |
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| Feb-02-11 | | GBKnight: "Do you know of any particular reason to think they would do badly?" My take is that 'elite' players do not 'need' to play in opens (where points = cash), as long as they get sufficient invitations to closed events with good financial conditions (ie they get paid regardless of how well they perform). Of course it is easy to slip out of the elite and lose those top paying invitations, which may explain why we see, for example, Ivanchuk and Adams, playing at Gibralter.
To answer the question, I think there is every chance that elite players might struggle in opens, or at least they risk doing so and losing rating points. For example, Adams has conceded a few draws here. Having said that, it would be interesting to see, say Anand/Kramnik/Carlsen play here. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | parmetd: Incorrect GBKnight as Ivanchuk TURNED down an invitation to Corus A to play at Gibraltar. Why? Dunno, might be he got better conditions at Gibraltar or maybe he just got that invite first and accepted it before the Corus invite came. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | Maatalkko: <parmetd> What is your source for that? How can you find out who the organizers invited to what? |
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http://www.livestream.com/gibchess |
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| Feb-02-11 | | percyblakeney: Caruana-Ivanchuk 0-1 very soon, and Ivanchuk goes 2775+. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | Marmot PFL: Elite players in opens face the problem of opponents that they have possibly never heard of, but who may have thoroughly studied the elite player's games. Maybe the unknown teenager they are playing will turn out to be the next Anand or Kramnik. Probably not, but in any case there seems to be more to lose than to gain by playing in such events. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | Maatalkko: <Marmot PFL> Which is exactly why we've been saying that only an elite player with cajones, which is basically a club of army of Ivanchuk and few others, will play in an open event. (I'll bet Kramnik would lose rating points through not enough wins in the Gibraltar Open.) |
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| Feb-02-11 | | crazybird: Open events don't pay the hefty appearence fees that Top-5 players get used to. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | Maatalkko: He's 8/9 now? How many rounds are there? This is easily a 2900+ performance so far. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | diagonal: <acirce> the proof of the pudding is in the eating, just wonder, how Anand, Topalov, Kramnik, Leko & Co. would do in such an Open... I'm looking forward to see them regularly successful competing in Open Festivals with swiss-randomized lower rated opponents... Chess games have a tendency to a draw, the probability between two players (in touch within a certain ELO range) of drawing, defined as opposed to having a decisive result, can be measured empirically. If you are in the top dozen, on aggregate, it's better to play (and drawing) in this group of the good dozen leading players than to risk draws & defeats against quite lower rated / ranked player, it's mathematics, especially as long as you are only first (dozen) among equals. In a closed super-strong tournament you can survive and protect your ELO rating with a +2 or +3 approach, in an Open which is run by swiss pairings, you have almost constantly beating up lower (and maybe unknown, but highly motivated) opponents in struggling OTB chess. As pointed out by <Maatalkko>, <Marmot PFL>, <GB Knight>, top players with about / near 2800 ELO points are in danger of losing points in swiss systems, you can’t hand-pick and preparate a lot (at the Olympiads you at least still have the choice not play a round, in an Open there is no such way out); a risk-aversion style in general, or a drawing with black - winning with white mode, is no survival strategy then; btw: system and scoring (traditional or three points for a win, one point for a draw) have a decisive impact on the outcome. To gain really a bunch of ELO points as top-elite player in an Open against lower rated players, you must winning with both colours, in closed tournament you know the ELO average of your opponents in advance, to be "smarter then the average" is enough to rise, draws don’t damage that much. Furthermore, already one single loss as top-elite GM against a nobody or clearly lower rated player (lucky guy, rising youngster, bouncing back veteran), can be spectacular; a bad result in total in an Open is at least a bitter humiliation for your image (and in a Open you drop out of the top ten very quickly, the arbitrary cut-off last round game result has a tremendous effect of the final position in a Open tournament; the players in the middle positions tend to be jumbled, swiss system works only properly at the very top - and at the very bottom). Obviously, if you are clear first in the world, beating up convincingly and consecutively everyone, system and scoring doesn’t matter, but even then: you are making more and more rapidly rating-progress in playing and beating the next-high players compared to play and beat lower ones. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | diagonal: (continuation) Or put it the other way round: we all know the ELO-paradox from former days with only an annually (or later half-a-year) ELO list: if two players strictly play each other and nobody else, let's say Ka. versus Ka. (could happen with 48 games in a row), and they are always drawing (Ka. and Ka. did not, the longest stretch in their encounter was 17 draws de-suite), then the originally lower rated player will catch up and could finally even surpass the originally higher rated player although (theoretically) he never ever did win a single game. Chances for the slightly lower rated player are better to gain points and advance in rating. And in these days, practically everything is about ELO. I'm not an ELO-fetishist, I rather question ELO-credibility; try to explain this tendency of concentrating on the always same bunch of players (plus regional wildcards) in closed tournaments, not to advocate it. I love the variety of Open Festivals, in chess – and other arts ;-) Just one additional remark: the discussion of *preserving high ELO ratings* versus *promoting rated game activity*, should be launched. In some cases, ratings can obviously discourage game activity for players who wish to protect their rating. That’s why especially top elite players and decreasing players can try to "frozen" their rating. Well-respected GM Nunn, pointed out once as a mathematician, that players should not only be selected, ranked by high ELO ratings, but also by their rated game activity. As said, ELO points mean money, subsequently some top shots incidentally avoid to play in an Open (or only did it from time to time in their mother or living country) when they have reached their status at the top of the tops. Hats off to Ivanchuk (a highly original and unpredictable player), Caruana - and all brave contenders in Opens! |
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| Feb-02-11 | | parmetd: Maatalkko: <parmetd> What is your source for that? How can you find out who the organizers invited to what? The Tata organizers themselves said they invited Ivanchuk and he politely turned it down. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | Kinghunt: Nadezhda Kosinteva is paired against Michael Adams in tomorrow's final round. Her current TPR is 2649. Even if she loses, her TPR will still be 2616. So congratulations to Nadezhda on securing another GM norm, with a round to go! |
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| Feb-03-11 | | firebyrd: <Maatalkko: How many rounds are there?> 10 rounds. Last round today, starting early at 11:00 CET |
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| Feb-03-11 | | anandrulez: Chucky is now 2775 rating ! Hope he can also join the race to 2800 now ! That will be exciting . |
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| Feb-03-11 | | Skakalec: And Francisco Vallejo-Pons is one lucky man.
Of 8 rounds 5 of them vs. women! |
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| Feb-03-11 | | firebyrd: <Skakalec> Note also how he performs 80 points below his rating. Focus on the board, Paco! |
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| Feb-03-11 | | M.D. Wilson: Larsen used to dominate Opens back in the day when it was seen as being an unenviable enterprise. |
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| Feb-03-11 | | anandrulez: Fide should allow Ivanchuk to play in Candidates ! |
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| Feb-03-11 | | kia0708: Ivanchuk is far too eccentric for some |
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| Feb-03-11 | | wordfunph: <kia0708> sans his eccentricity, i wouldn't root for Chucky.. :) |
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| Feb-03-11 | | siamesedream: Congratulations to Vasily Ivanchuk! Great tournament! Kudos to Nigel Short!
Bad news: <London withdraws 2012 World Chess Championship Bid>: http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne... |
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| Feb-03-11 | | M.D. Wilson: Eccentricity comes with genius. |
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