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Sep-28-21
 | | Sally Simpson: Viz (a comic adult only UK publication) have done a 5 page piece on chess. A page is dedicated to the Nona lawsuit though the names have been changed to protect the innocent and keep the lawyers at bay. In this case it is a male ex-laundry worker claiming his life and Beth Harman are too similar for it to be a coincidence citing many ridiculous examples. https://www.redhotpawn.com/chess-bl... |
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| Oct-09-21 | | Albertan: Netflix must compensate legendary female chess player: https://dailytitan.com/opinion/netf... |
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Oct-09-21
 | | HeMateMe: She wont get a dime in court. Yes, netflix was rude and ignorant but Nona G. has suffered no financial damages. There was no money in chess five minutes ago and there isn't any money now. I suspect netflix will wait and see if a court will even hear it. If so, she'll be offered a very modest sum to drop the case. She'll go home with a little money and a weak apology. |
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| Jan-28-22 | | Albertan: Netflix must face ´Queen’s Gambit’ lawsuit from Chess great,Judge says: https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/ne... |
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Jan-29-22
| | Sally Simpson: BBC are also running with the same story.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertai... It appears a judge has ruled Netflix has to go to court. "...the fact that the series was a fictional work does not insulate Netflix from liability for defamation if all the elements of defamation are otherwise present." |
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Jan-29-22
 | | FSR: I am reading the court's ruling, which you can find in this story: https://www.chess.com/news/view/gap... |
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Feb-05-22
 | | Gypsy: Attorneys discussing the results of QG/Netflix defamation of Nona G. on a law-based podcast for laymen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33i...
The sub-segment on QG starts at
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Feb-09-22
| | HeMateMe: I think Beth Harmon is actually based on long ago American women champion Lisa Lane <https://www.bing.com/images/search?...> <Lisa Lane was born on April 25, 1938. Her father was a skilled laborer who operated a glass-roller leather glazing machine. He was more interested in horseracing than in his family and disappeared from her life before she was two. Her mother had a great deal of difficulty raising her two children alone and Lisa spent much of her childhood here and there. She resented an article that claimed she had lived in an orphanage.> Like the fictional Beth Harmon, and so forth. She was USA women's champion but flamed out quickly and left the game. I suppose if the best female players could have made more than $1,000 a year they might have stayed in the game. <https://en.chessbase.com/post/lisa-...> Nona G., 80 years old, has been a wonderful ambassador of chess and an asset to the game. I wish she would publish an auto bio, perhaps digitally (less expensive to make and distribute) for downloads, to Kindle, Amazon users, et. al. |
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| Feb-09-22 | | fabelhaft: <I think Beth Harmon is actually based on long ago American women champion Lisa Lane> Not playing strength wise though, when Lane played the Women's Candidates in 1964 she lost to the top 6, and to 9 of the top 11. First placed Lazarevic had a peak rating in the 2100s the next decade. Harmon was US Champion at 18 (at a time when players like Fischer, Reshevsky and Benko used to participate). |
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| Feb-09-22 | | Absentee: <Netflix has to go to court.> We're not there yet, but still it's a step forward towards nuking it from orbit. |
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| Feb-09-22 | | fabelhaft: Those were different times. Lane was well known, but the level was far from what it is today. She won the national women's championship twice, the second time shared with Gresser, who was 60 years old and had learnt chess in her mid 30s. In the only game between her and Lane here the latter hung a piece in the opening and played on forever where few today would continue in blitz. Gresser won the national championship nine times, three of them in her 60s, but for some reason didn't get the articles Lane got... |
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| Feb-09-22 | | Granny O Doul: My own uninformed opinion is that the author drew inspiration from many sources and that Harmon is not actually a stand-in for any one particular actual breathing human. |
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Feb-10-22
| | HeMateMe: Exactly. Beth harmon is a little bit bobby fischer, a little bit polgar sister, maybe a little bit lisa lane. The supporting actors seemed more definable. Bill lombardy as the unconventional American living in the basement in NYC. That guy could also be fischer, except the real bobby Fischer could never get that close to other human beings. I think the book was written in the late 70s or early 80s. The older, friendly russian champion could be smyslov. The younger, button down title holder is probably based on spassky. |
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Feb-10-22
| | Gypsy: <The younger, button down title holder is probably based on spassky.> This is the first time ever I hear that Spassky was considered a button-down kind of a guy. When I was growing up in eastern block, Spassky was considered incredibly and universally gifted, both off and on the chessboard. Of his OTB play they talked as if Spassky was a Pushkin reincarnate. He played chess instead of writing poetry, but he played all types of positions easily and exceedingly well. Many of his games also had this breezy, champagne quality to them. In personal life, Spassky was handsome, athletic, funny, and women swooned about him. It was believed that Spassky was only a step or so from saying something embarasing about the political system and two steps or so from becoming a troublesome dissident. That, the reasoning went, was the reason Spassky was assigned such a staunch loyalist as Bondarevsky as his trainer/second/handler: To keep Spassy in line. Tolush was too much of a free thinker himself to guarantee the right influence. |
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Feb-10-22
 | | moronovich: <In personal life, Spassky was handsome, athletic, funny, and women swooned about him. It was believed that Spassky was only a step or so from saying something embarasing about the political system and two steps or so from becoming a troublesome dissident. That, the reasoning went, was the reason Spassky was assigned such a staunch loyalist as Bondarevsky as his trainer/second/handler: To keep Spassy in line. Tolush was too much of a free thinker himself to guarantee the right influence.> I once met him. In Geneva in 77 it was.We had a nice little conversation.He was very openminded and gentlemandlike. |
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Feb-11-22
| | HeMateMe: Weren't Bodarevsky and Tolush both brilliant tacticians, but also erratic heavy drinkers? Seems a poor fit with spassky, unless they were trying to keep him happy, not keep an eye on him. |
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Feb-11-22
| | Gypsy: <HeMateMe: Weren't Bodarevsky and Tolush both brilliant tacticians, but also erratic heavy drinkers? ... > Drinking was a sort of competitive sport in USSR of those days and many a famous chess-player held an unofficial master, even grand-master rank in it. <Seems a poor fit with spassky ...> Boris Spassky would probably agree that the whole USSR was a rather poor fit for him. |
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| Feb-24-22 | | jerseybob: <RookFile: Classic nuisance lawsuit - she'll settle out of court for whatever she can get.> Nuisance? If you're being lied about? Well here's news for the wokesters at Netflix - and I pray it holds up: Nona has won her suit! |
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Sep-09-22
| | Sally Simpson: Looks like Nona and Netflix settled out of court. The sum she received has not been officially disclosed. "Lawyers of both parties are quoted saying they are "pleased the matter is resolved." https://www.chess.com/news/view/net... |
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Sep-09-22
 | | keypusher: <"Lawyers of both parties are quoted saying they are "pleased the matter is resolved."> As if any lawyer was ever happy that he had to stop billing. |
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Sep-09-22
| | HeMateMe: It's nice to see the little guys win one. |
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| Apr-04-23 | | stone free or die: There's fictional works, playing a little fast and loose with the facts, but here's a factual work, documenting the reign of four Georgian women players who dominated the chess world during their reign: <Glory to the Queen> (scroll down for video) https://www.glorytothequeen.at/
<This kind of archival footage is featured heavily in "Glory to the Queen". After all, the glory days of Georgian womens' chess dates back a few decades. It's greatest moment was the Chess Olympiad 1982 in Lucerne, where
<Nona Gaprindashvili>,
<Maia Chiburdanidze>,
<Nona Alexandria> and
<Nino Ioseliani>
won gold for the Soviet Union.>
https://en.chessbase.com/post/glory... |
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| May-03-23 | | stone free or die: Is this a photograph of her as a young woman?
https://dspace.nplg.gov.ge/bitstrea... . |
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May-03-23
 | | perfidious: <zed>, sure looks it, along with what appears to be the Georgian alphabet on the wall boards. |
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Mar-17-25
 | | Diocletian: https://images.fineartamerica.com/i... |
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