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Dec-11-07 | | RookFile: The thing that impresses me most about Botvinnik is the fact that every day, for most of his life, he took a 1 hour walk. It shows what an ordered life he had, and also the benefits of exercise. |
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Dec-11-07 | | brankat: <Rook File> In his book on Flohr-Botvinnik match, Botvinnik also gives a very detailed description of his regimen of preparations for tournaments and matches. Although parts of it would not be applicable today due to computer generated help, most of his methods are still quite valuable. <he took a 1 hour walk. It shows what an ordered life he had..> Indeed. This ordered life also, I think, reflects strong self-discipline, his sense of purpose and a firm commitment to success. All necessary "ingredients", and not only Chess-wise. |
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Dec-11-07 | | Tacticstudent: <brankat, Rookfile> Botwinnik was a very disciplined master indeed. |
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Dec-11-07 | | M.D. Wilson: One of the best, no doubt about it. Botvinnik obviously understood the inextricable link between mind and body. Not like the good ol' days when chess was accompanied by whiskey and cigar smoke. |
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Dec-11-07 | | brankat: <M.D.Wilson> <Not like the good ol' days when chess was accompanied by whiskey and cigar smoke.> I just love the good ol' days! Betcha, I'll outlive my doctor :-) |
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Dec-12-07 | | Ziggurat: <GeauxCool> Thanks for your efforts. |
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Dec-16-07 | | M.D. Wilson: This very pertinent quotation perhaps sums up best Botvinnik's approach to the game: "If acoustics was a science that informed the world about sounds, then music was an art that revealed the beauty of that art; if logic was a science that revealed the laws of thought, then chess, in the form of artistic images, was an art that illuminated the logical side of thought." Botvinnik |
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Dec-16-07
 | | Open Defence: <M.D. Wilson> that is a beautiful quote |
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Dec-17-07
 | | ketchuplover: yyyyyyyup |
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Dec-30-07 | | brankat: <M.D.Wilson> A very eloquent, and more importantly, very true expression of thoughts by M.Botvinnik! I like the quote so much, I'll borrow it and have it posted in my forum. I hope You don't mind :-) |
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Dec-30-07 | | paladin at large: I like the second part of the quote very much, but the first part should have read: "If acoustics was a science that informed the world about sounds, then music was an art that revealed the beauty of that science;....." |
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Jan-04-08 | | M.D. Wilson: Yes, <brankat>, it is a nice quote. In fact, I might place it on my page too. Yes, <paladin at large>, I think it should be science. |
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Jan-05-08 | | brankat: <M.D.Wilson> <it is a nice quote. In fact, I might place it on my page too.> Great minds do think alike. I had put the quote in my profile a couple of days ago ;-) <..the beauty of that science..> Yes, the word is "science". |
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Feb-09-08 | | brankat: No sign of life around here in more than a month. Pity. |
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Feb-09-08 | | sneaky pete: <brankat> That's correct, experts have confirmed that Botvinnik is still dead. |
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Feb-09-08
 | | chancho: So is Fischer, and people still flock to his page... |
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Feb-09-08 | | whiskeyrebel: I for one prefer the posting at this page over the last month to that at the padded Fischer ward. |
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Feb-09-08 | | brankat: <Sneaky Pete> <..experts have confirmed that Botvinnik is still dead.> So much for eternal life.
<whiskeyrebel> When posting on a page like this one, or Lakser's, Nimzo's, Steinitz's, Petrosian's, for instance, one needs to think first. At least a little. It is not usually a requirement for a Fischer, a Kramnik, or a Topalov site :-) |
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Feb-09-08
 | | Benzol: I'll come and join the more thoughtful posters on this thread. |
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Feb-10-08 | | whiskeyrebel: "Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt" ..Abraham Lincoln |
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Feb-10-08 | | M.D. Wilson: How many people include Botvinnik in their Best Player List? If so, where is he placed. |
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Feb-10-08 | | brankat: <Doc Wilson> Higher than most :-) |
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Feb-10-08 | | ughaibu: Fifth. |
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Feb-10-08 | | Tomlinsky: <M.D. Wilson> My top five, ten for that matter, are all equal first each for different aspects that they brought to the art. Botvinnik is in there absolutely without question at all times. They are all artists that use the brush with a different but equally valid approach to my mind. The list also changes a little here and there depending on what pictures I am attracted to at any given point in time. |
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Feb-10-08
 | | Gypsy: A trouble with top-10 players lists is that they tend to start flamewars.
So I'd like to propose something different, and ultimately more useful: (A) a list of Botvinnik's best games, and
(B) a list of Botvinnik's best combo's.
I mean these should all be trully the finest of extraordinary performances, not just everithing that he won. Let me kick off the list of his most sublime games. The first two 1. Botvinnik vs Capablanca, 1938 2. Botvinnik vs Portisch, 1968 will be on everyones list, including mine. (And probably in that order.) Then I'd like to nominate a personal favorite, 3. Botvinnik vs Keres, 1952 |
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