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Oct-24-05 | | KingG: Ok, no problem, we can stop now. :) |
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Dec-16-05 | | refutor: interesting novelty on the 7th move but no doubt unsound...i've never seen it before (either has the opening explorer) [Event "WJun"]
[Site "Yerevan ARM"]
[Date "2000.09.23"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Gershon,A"]
[Black "Senff,M"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2502"]
[BlackElo "2354"]
[EventDate "2000.09.02"]
[ECO "D44"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 b4 8. Ne4
Qd5 9. Ned2 c3 10. exf6 cxd2+ 11. Qxd2 gxf6 12. Bxf6 Rg8 13. Qc2 Nd7 14.
Bh4 b3 15. axb3 Bb4+ 16. Kd1 c5 17. Bc4 Qh5 18. Qe4 Nb6 19. Qc6+ Bd7 20.
Qxb6 Rg4 21. Rxa7 1-0 |
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Dec-16-05 | | refutor: actually senff played it later on in that world junior as well [Event "WJun"]
[Site "Yerevan ARM"]
[Date "2000.10.01"]
[Round "12"]
[White "Lopez Martinez,J"]
[Black "Senff,M"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2477"]
[BlackElo "2354"]
[EventDate "2000.09.02"]
[ECO "D44"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 b4 8.
exf6 gxf6 9. Bh4 bxc3 10. bxc3 Ba6 11. Nd2 Qd5 12. Bxf6 Rg8 13. Be5 Bh6 14.
Bg3 Nd7 15. Be2 Bxd2+ 16. Qxd2 Qxg2 17. O-O-O Qd5 18. Rhe1 Nb6 19. Qc2 Qa5
20. Bf3 Nd5 21. Bxd5 cxd5 22. Bd6 Bb5 23. Bb4 Qc7 24. Qxh7 Qf4+ 25. Rd2
O-O-O 26. Bc5 Rg2 27. Qh3 Rxh2 28. Qe3 Qxe3 29. fxe3 Rxd2 30. Kxd2 a6 31.
Rf1 f5 32. Rg1 Rh8 33. Bd6 Kd7 34. Bf4 Rh7 35. Kc2 Kc6 36. Kb2 Kb6 37. Ka3
Rb7 38. Bd6 Bd7 39. Rg8 Kc6 40. Bc5 Rb1 41. Ra8 Re1 42. Rxa6+ Kb7 43. Ra7+
Kc6 44. Kb4 Rxe3 45. a4 f4 46. Ra6+ Kb7 47. Rb6+ Kc7 48. a5 Bc6 49. Ra6 Re1
50. Bb6+ Kd6 51. Ra7 Rb1+ 52. Ka3 Bd7 53. Bc7+ Kc6 54. Bxf4 Rb7 55. Ra6+
Kb5 56. Ra8 Bc6 57. Rc8 Bd7 58. Ra8 Bc6 59. Bg5 Rg7 60. Rb8+ Rb7 61. Rc8
Ra7 62. Bd8 Ra8 63. Rxa8 Bxa8 1/2-1/2 |
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Dec-18-05 | | KingG: <refutor> In the first game you gave, 16...Rg7! 17.Bc4 Qh5 18.Bg3 a5 doesn't look too bad. |
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Mar-10-06
 | | WTHarvey: Here is a little collection of winning combinations in miniature D44 games: http://www.wtharvey.com/d44.html |
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Jul-18-06 | | niemzo: <refutor> In the 7..b4 line u mention, how about 9.Nxf6? I serched it a bit and couldn't find anything for black. for example, 9.Nxf6+ gxf6 10.Bxf6 Rg8 11.Qc2 Ba6 12.Qxh7 seems good for white. |
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Sep-06-06 | | soughzin: In the line 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 e6 4.Nf3 dxc 5.Bg5 does black have anything better than Nf6 transposing back to I believe the anti-meran line? It would be nice if he doesn't and I transpose back to sharp familiar lines [they're not super familiar yet as I'm just crossing over to d4 but they will be soon : ) ]
Thanks for any help |
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Sep-14-06 | | soughzin: I feel a little lonely on the slav/semi-slav pages... Another question about move orders- In the position on the board shown at the top of the page, what happens if play contines 6.e4 h6! Now if white retreats to Bh5 black plays g5 and has forced white into the anti-moscow gambit which most believe to be an inferior version of the botvinnik. I can't believe no one else has noticed this before so there has to be a reason for black not playing it right? I assume white must play 7.Bxf6 and hope to get an improved moscow. 7...Qxf6 8.Bxc4 is white better than usual? black could also take on move 7 with gxf6. Anyone out there wanna help me meander through this maze of theory? : ) thanks much |
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Sep-14-06 | | bob000: soughzin. Your line has white playing Nf3 twice. The Moscow line is good for white but black can play 5..Be7 or 5..f6. |
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Sep-14-06 | | soughzin: Yes I meant 4.Nc3 on my first post.
On further reflection about my Second post I think I can answer my own question. First off black gets to chooses whether white plays the moscow(or perhaps anti moscow) or botvinnik so this is just black choosing to play the moscow later,so this is now groundbreaking revelation even if it's as strong as the regular moscow. Also, I think usually in the moscow white plays dxc after white's light squared bishop comes out,winning a tempo; this is not possible in the delayed moscow I thought of. |
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Sep-16-06 | | refutor: soughzin, you are right on your first september 14th post. without getting ...b5 in Black has given up the center and is behind in development with only the bishop pair as compensation click for larger viewlooks much better for White in my patzer opinion |
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Jan-02-07 | | soughzin: I posted on a couple other pages how I was looking to compliment the meran lines with something Other than the Botvinnik. Well I think I'm going back to it after looking at some unclear main and sidelines. A nice side benefit is when your unbooked opponent will play a4 or e3 to your pawn snatching dxc4. Today I played a game that went 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e3 b5 7. a4 a6!? not quite the main line but I think very playable. It's FUN for one, sound,trappy,and easy to underestimate, what else can you ask for as black? 8. axb5 cxb5 9. Nxb5 axb5 10. Rxa1 Bb4+ 11. Nd2 Bb7 12. Bxf6 gxf6 13. Ra7 Qb6 14.Ra1 White soon blundered and gave me a winning position (which I squandered but squeeked out a win) |
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May-08-07 | | artemis: I really think that this line is the one true challenge to the semi-slav, with the exception of one line in the Meran. In the other lines, particularly in the ...Qc7 and d4-d5 merans, black's position is just awesome. These lines are the crucible for the Semi-Slav. |
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Nov-28-08 | | KingG: There were two high level games in the Botvinnik variation during the recent Olympiad Aronian vs Van Wely, 2008 and Kasimdzhanov vs M Ragger, 2008. In both cases White outrated his opponent by over 100 points, yet both games ended in a draw. After several years of only seeing the Moscow variation in response to 5.Bg5, is the Botvinnik variation ready for a come-back? |
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Nov-04-09 | | jon01: Any good books on this opening? |
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Nov-04-09 | | yalie: <jon01: Any good books on this opening?> I dont know about books, but this might be a good place to know the latest theory: http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/t... |
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Mar-06-10 | | rapidcitychess: <Sneaky> You have inspired me! I shall take on little chess partner! |
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Mar-06-10 | | rapidcitychess: Any suggestions? |
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Mar-06-10 | | rapidcitychess: This is a CPU with no book vs a 1500 glicko player. Should I take little chess partner on with tactics and a solid opening? What should I do. I understand that little chess partner is a little stronger than a little chess CPU, Still, What should I do? I will start as soon as I hear from a good player what I should do. |
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May-04-10 | | rapidcitychess: Well I searched and decided(finally) to do it.
I won!!
I used that stonewall thingy to beat it. |
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Dec-16-11
 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Semi-Slav, Anti-Meran Gambit
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.♘c3 ♘f6 4.♘f3 c6 5. ♗g5 dxc4 6.e4 b5 7.e5  click for larger view |
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Jan-16-12 | | chegado: I just started to study this opening (specifically Botvinnik variation) and still makes me wonder why so many top players endorse it. After the usual move order, Rybka states that Black is in pretty bad shape, struggling, at the best of the scenarios, for a draw. |
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Jan-16-12 | | Shams: <chegado> Well, that's Rybka. Rybka also probably loves White in all the 6.Bg5 lines of the Najdorf, too. I think one reason these ultra-sharp variations still enjoy popularity at high levels is that Black can at least think of playing for a win in just about any resulting middlegame. That's a really valuable plus. Sometimes you have Black in a must-win game, after all. |
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May-27-18 | | Ron: Here is a variation in the Meran that's been played before, for example, in Kammsky-Kramnik 1994: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Nxg5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Nbd7 11. exf6 Bb7 Here I plugged in 12. Qf3. I was hoping it would be a Theoretical Novelty, but it isn't. Its been played before, but much less common than other moves.
Here is a line after 12. Qf3, Stockfish 7 making moves for both side: 12. Qf3 Qa5 13. g3 Rb8 14. Rd1 c5 15. d5 b4 16. Ne4 Bxd5 17. Bg2 Ne5 18. Qf4 b3+ 19. Kf1 Qc7 20. axb3 Rxb3 21. Nd2 Rd3 22. Bxd5 Rxd5 23. Kg2 Qc6 24. Qe4 Rh5 25. h4 Stockfish evaluates this at + .59 for White.
I submit that playing 12. Qf3 here, especially with pre-game preparation, can be very good for White. |
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Jun-05-21
 | | Messiah: Best opening ever. |
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