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| Dec-20-07 | | Shams: <He once called me a "shameless liar" for no valid reason> I've always felt you had a lot of shame about your lies. |
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| Dec-20-07 | | MaxxLange: The English speaking peoples' problem is that athletics and the drinking sports of darts or pool are too popular. True, when I visited England, there was usually some aging eccentric ready for a chess game in every pub. But it's not something that most people do. The best game I played in England was a guy who challenged me to a blindfold game and lost the White side of a Dragon by castling through check!He resined when I told him his move was illegal. |
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| Dec-20-07 | | Riverbeast: <I've always felt you had a lot of shame about your lies.> Thank you Shams, it's good to see someone can see the 'real me' :-) (Good one, by the way...) |
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| Dec-20-07 | | acirce: You're reading too much into it. By singling <Riverbeast>'s particularly ridiculous piece of vulgar American chauvinism out I'm not endorsing everything I leave out. Just that <Riverbeast> was so much worse. As I said, <MichAdams> at least does it with some humour and finesse, seemingly more like light-hearted digging than aggressive bashing, and intellectually much superior. Trolling, but (although not always) with some class, so to say. And I must admit I found it, childish or not, a bit amusing to see someone take the bait and react so hysterically. Btw, I rather liked the factual riposte by <Shams> starting with "what utter rot". I would also have enjoyed the kind of conversation that might have ensued if someone had used MA's own weapons against him, but it seems nobody was up to that task for now. |
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| Dec-20-07 | | square dance: <By singling <Riverbeast>'s particularly ridiculous piece of vulgar American chauvinism...> this is an example of the problem, imo. do you think <riverbeast> is being serious? just because he says some things that are, or may be true doesnt mean he is being serious. i think he even made this point earlier. for example, if you claimed swedish superiority based on peter, bjorn and john being the best band in the world-ok, this is in fact true, but that doesnt mean i would have to take your theoretical swedish superiority argument seriously. right? |
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| Dec-20-07 | | Riverbeast: I've already apologized for my vulgar American chauvinism, Acirce. And the vulgar chauvinistic statement of mine (I know it was, though I don't take it back) came as a response to the initial (blatantly insulting and chauvinistic) barbs from MichAdams, ...Read the entire thread and you'll see how it started. But since you've decided to chime in once again,let's speak frankly and acknowledge that you've had a 'hard on' for me (Don't take that literally, where I'm from this is used as a figure of speech) since we first crossed paths on this site. To each their own preferences when it comes to 'intellectual superiority', 'humour' (I noticed the British spelling...we know who's educated you, wot?), class, or somesuch. <Btw, I rather liked the factual riposte by <Shams> starting with "what utter rot". I would also have enjoyed the kind of conversation that might have ensued if someone had used MA's own weapons against him, but it seems nobody was up to that task for now.> So now you're critiquing the technique of the bloggers, instead of the chessplayers? This is what it's come down to? |
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| Dec-20-07 | | square dance: <To each their own preferences when it comes to 'intellectual superiority', 'humour (I noticed the British spelling...we know who's educated you, wot?), class, or somesuch.> swedes are taught british english. there's nothing more to it than that. |
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| Dec-20-07 | | Riverbeast: And they're taught that British chauvinism and nationalism is more 'humourous', 'classy', and 'finessed'. It's the 'class' of nationalism Swedes themselves prefer: "Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more." |
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| Dec-21-07 | | MaxxLange: this nationalist flag-waving-and-bashing stuff should be searching for the bobby fischer forum, instead of dragging on here too much longer |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Strongest Force: Maxxlange, surely you can see how a troll can disrupt the flow of a normal/on-topic/informative blog? I think some trollers single-out people for no other reason except that of jealousy: others are more knowledgable, more eloquent, more informative, and because of this the troll (out of spite) then seeks to disrupt the flow with hostile and inane banter. Me and Riverbeast had a excellent exchange going until the trollish MichAdams had to stick his face in the middle of things; immediately, alot of negative elements came into focus and the flow of the blogg went from being on-topic and informative to us having to address nonsensical matter. Recently there was a huge troll in the Magnus Carlsen forum who would always disrupt my serious thoughts with blatantly OFF-TOPIC insults untill i finally had enough and told him to go @#$% himself! This anger sometimes cannot be avoided. That's how i see it. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | kackhander: Are we really drawing such sweeping conclusions about the relative merits of England and the US on the basis of who might have won a series of board games, had they been played, 150 odd years ago? Of course we are.
This website never disappoints. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | kackhander: "This anger sometimes cannot be avoided. That's how i see it." Ah, the first page of the Wifebeater's Manifesto. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Strongest Force: kackhander, try to read a little more about the whole subject-matter (what we have been talking about) before you jump in the middle and foolishly take everything out of context. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | kackhander: Strongest Force, try to take a bit more responsibility for your emotional reactions. We're talking about a board game here, there's no need to jump for the jugular at every disagreement. I'm sure your family will tell you the same. Thankyou for your definition of "subject matter" though, I thought it was some kind of fruit. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Strongest Force: kackhander, sounds to me like you are the one that's getting emotional. Not only that, you are still drifting this blog into off-topic subject-matter. If you want to talk about relevant issues that have been brought into focus here, please do, however, if you just want to get into a shouting-match over nonsensical matters i suggest you look for a fight elsewhere. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Ziggurat: If this is a "blog", that term has been stretched beyond recognition. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | kackhander: "Maxxlange, surely you can see how a troll can disrupt the flow of a normal/on-topic/informative blog? I think some trollers single-out people for no other reason except that of jealousy: others are more knowledgable, more eloquent, more informative, and because of this the troll (out of spite) then seeks to disrupt the flow with hostile and inane banter. Me and Riverbeast had a excellent exchange going until the trollish MichAdams had to stick his face in the middle of things; immediately, alot of negative elements came into focus and the flow of the blogg went from being on-topic and informative to us having to address nonsensical matter. Recently there was a huge troll in the Magnus Carlsen forum who would always disrupt my serious thoughts with blatantly OFF-TOPIC insults untill i finally had enough and told him to go @#$% himself! This anger sometimes cannot be avoided. That's how i see it." Emotional - check
Off topic - check
Childish - check
Aggressive - check
Your hypocritical lectures are really no skin off my nose Strongest Force, I just pity your family. 'Tis the season and all... |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Strongest Force: Kackhander, your stupid and out-of-context rants are getting more absurd as we go on. If you want to continue with your foolishness, that is alright with me...lets see where it will end; however, if you want to talk about chess and the Waitzkins (i am a expert on both) then i will also be available for that. Btw, i feel i have the right, as well as anyone, to refute *any attack* dirrected at me or any friendly bloggers. So, lets hear your next rant... |
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| Dec-21-07 | | kackhander: Hehe
Strongest Force: If you're attempting to defend yourself against accusations of being emotional, angry, off topic and childish, it's probably a good idea not to display all 4 attributes in every attempted "refutation" :) When in doubt, read what you're writing before you post it, it's called "proof reading". A patronising definition can be provided on request. I'm nice like that. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Strongest Force: kackhander, for the sake of argument, lets say you're right about me being emotional, ect. My non-emotional question to you is: are you trying to "enlighten" me, taking me to a more "educated" and "responsible" level or are you just trying to provoke a fight. If it's the latter, what are your real reasons? Do you have the balls to be honest? |
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| Dec-21-07 | | kackhander: I'm hoping to assist you in being a bit more self aware and taking a bit more responsibility for you own state of mind. You're even presenting this to me as a supposedly non-emotional question: "Do you have the balls to be honest?"
That's fighting talk, and used as a defence against charges of being overly emotional and angry it doesn't really work. See? |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Strongest Force: It doesn't work because you dont want it to work. I can see behind your facade of hatred. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | docofthree: you 2 need a break from your bickering. does anyone know who was referrenced in the movie sfbf as being ruined by speed chess. the name was unfamilar to me. |
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| Dec-21-07 | | Riverbeast: <does anyone know who was referrenced in the movie sfbf as being ruined by speed chess.> We were all ruined by speed chess
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