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Mar-26-19 | | jith1207: Does his name in Modern Short-Hand English form, translate to: F'im Geller!? |
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Mar-26-19 | | jith1207: <ul-01-18 ughaibu: Stoy! You posted the same comment on March the eighth 2014! Jul-01-18 ughaibu: And on the first of October 2009!!> Was that the reason MH370 disappeared on that fateful day! In a way, that tragic event is now tied with Geller's Birthday. |
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Mar-26-19 | | jith1207: <bringing his total of World Champions beaten to eight--a record he shares only with Botvinnik, Petrosian and Viktor Korchnoi> Is he among the players who have played with most number of world champions - past, present and future - combined? I guess Korchnoi would have that prize, having probably played all the modern day champions as well. But I also guess Geller would be close company. |
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Mar-26-19
 | | alexmagnus: <I guess Korchnoi would have that prize, having probably played all the modern day champions as well. > Korchnoi played all world champions from Botvinnik to Carlsen: Korchnoi-Botvinnik +1 -1 =2
Korchnoi-Smyslov +3 -5 =13
Korchnoi-Tal +13 -4 =27
Korchnoi-Petrosian +12 -10 =48
Korchnoi-Spassky +20 -16 =33
Korchnoi-Fischer +2 -2 =4
Korchnoi-Karpov +14 -31 =63
Korchnoi-Kasparov +1 -14 =17
Korchnoi-Kramnik +0 -6 =6
Korchnoi-Anand +0 -6 =3
Korchnoi-Carlsen +1 -0 =0 |
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Mar-26-19
 | | alexmagnus: <Korchnoi played all world champions from Botvinnik to Carlsen> And all challengers from Bronstein to Caruana except Karjakin. |
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Jun-27-19 | | diagonal: In 2006, Korchnoi played Karjakin at Mexico City in a *Rapid* Quadrangular at the Mexico City Chess Festival, the event included a Guinness World Records for maximum number of games played in simuls on one day: https://theweekinchess.com/html/twi...
Youngster GM Sergei Karjakin, born 1990, top seeded (with an ELO 2672 from the classical rating list) won at 4 points, 'the Chessqueen', Alexandra Kosteniuk and Veteran Viktor Kortchnoi, born 1931, shared second-third spot, with 3 points each. Mexican GM Gilberto Hernandez (2551 ELO) from the hosting nation finished fourth with 2 points. The games were not available for TWIC. As listed, Korchnoi has played in classical chess every World Champion since Alekhine's death in 1946! Korchnoi has beaten nine undisputed World Chess Champions, a record shared with Keres and Beliavsky. In total, Geller has played ten and beaten eight undisputed World Chess Champions (Euwe, and all seven from Botvinnik to Karpov; Geller also played Kasparov and Anand), and his overall record from more than hundred games in classical chess against the World Champions he faced, is positive! |
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Jul-20-19
 | | Sally Simpson: ***
Editorial Comment Shakhmaty v SSSR December 1961: "The leading Soviet players have won many fine victories. Their skill, the high quality of their play, their persistence, tactical abilities and will to win are all well known. Also well known are their modesty and openness. Unfortunately this cannot be said of grandmaster Geller. Having rendered considerable service to Soviet sport, he began to exaggerate this service and become conceited. This gave rise to a disdainful attitude toward his comrades and an unwillingness to consider their opinions. Braggarts and boasters are not popular with us. As was to be expected, at the plenary session of the Ukrainian Chess Federation the comrades subjected E.Geller to justifiable criticism. It is to be hoped that the grandmaster will draw the correct conclusions." Soviet Chess - D.J. Richards (page 168).
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Suitably chastised by his comrades (and with a black mark in his KGB folder) the next month Geller set off for the Stockholm Interzonal. In round one he faced Cuellar who finished 2nd bottom in the that event, but in their individual game he checkmated Geller! Geller vs M Cuellar Gacharna, 1962 At that moment in time Geller must have felt he had one foot in a Gulag.
He recovered well and finished 2nd equal with Petrosian. *** |
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Jul-20-19
 | | perfidious: The snippet <braggarts and boasters are not popular with us> is one I remember seeing long ago. |
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Jul-21-19 | | BUNA: <Sally Simpson: At that moment in time Geller must have felt he had one foot in a Gulag.>
There was no GULAG system left in 1961. It was dismatled after the 20th party congress (1956). Haven't you heard of the "Khrushchev Thaw"? And why shouldn't a soviet chess magazine whose editor was Ragozin at the time report that the Ukrainian Chess Federation had openly criticized Geller? Rumors about that incident were probably already being spread. "Braggarts and boasters" are now popular with us (think for instance of Kasparov). Instead we'll go into endless discussions whether today's players are "morally justified" to draw in less than thirty moves or draw at all. Leko and Giri are the new enemies that are denying us our holy right of entertainment. Chessplayers seem to be viewed as a particular brand of gladiators in this new Roman Empire. Like gladiators we expect them to fight until someone dies. |
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Jul-21-19
 | | Sally Simpson: ***
Hi Buna,
There was one Gulag left, a secret one, the Soviets referred to it in hushed tones as 'Gulag 51'. (you might not of heard of it...few people have.) It was for boasters, braggarts and anyone disagreeing with Ragozin. D.J. Richards relates to a spate between Petrosian and Shakhmaty on page 170-171. In the mid 50's Ragozin mentioned that the top players were 'point chasers' and agreeing quick draws. Petrosian wrote in the Alekhine Memorial (1956) bulletin (which was held after the Amsterdam Candidates (see below) - Petrosian did not play in the Alekhine memorial. Looks like he was in Gulag 51 noting up the games.) "It is naive to think that is is expedient (let alone possible) for a player striving for the top place in a tournament to play every game all out, putting all his creative energy into every encounter..." Ragozin hit back in a Shakhmaty January 1957.
"We shall limit ourselves to reminding grandmaster Petrosian that the chess masses, whom Petrosian is summoned to serve with his art, think quite differently. Petrosian's maxims have nothing in common with the Soviet school of chess." ---
The date, January 1957 is important.
Clarke in his book on Petrosian (page 81) notes that Petrosian has come in for criticism for 'colourless draws.' So, according to Clarke, Petrosian changed his style for the Amsterdam Candidates (1956) and 'he had come to play chess.' Disaster! He played the worst move of career. Petrosian vs Bronstein, 1956 and from the first 4 games where had at one time he good positions, he scored just 1 point. He pulled himself together with a couple of good wins including this mini masterpiece Filip vs Petrosian, 1956 but then Clarke tells us he slipped back into his old ways with a 'distressing run of eight draws.' Could be Petrosian was saying in the bulletin; 'I'm trying but it's just not me. Give me a break.' *** |
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Jan-31-20
 | | Eggman: It's often debated who was the greatest chess player never to become world champion, but here's another question: who was the greatest never to participate in a world championship? Geller, Stein, Ivanchuk, and Aronian immediately spring to mind. Others? |
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Jan-31-20 | | Petrosianic: Well, Rubinstein, of course. |
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Feb-03-20
 | | Eggman: Yes, well there are lots of names from the pre-FIDE era: Rubinstein, of course, and Maroczy and Pillsbury and Flohr, and Fine and even Reshevsky. |
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Sep-30-20 | | SymphonicKnight: Since Reshevsky participated in the 1948 Match Tournament for the World Championship against Botvinnik (who became world champion by winning it), I don't think we can include him in the list of best players never to have played for the title. |
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Sep-30-20
 | | perfidious: Reshevsky was also facing Smyslov, Euwe and Keres; tournament and match play are not quite the same. |
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Aug-31-21 | | tonsillolith: <Speaking of look-alikes, I always thought Robert Vaughn looked like Efim Geller:> I've always thunk Geller looked like Jim Belushi. |
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Nov-13-21 | | Albertan: Geller’s “Magister Ludi “ moment:
https://www.chess.com/blog/kamalaka... |
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Nov-14-21
 | | Ron: <Eggman: It's often debated who was the greatest chess player never to become world champion, but here's another question: who was the greatest never to participate in a world championship? Geller, Stein, Ivanchuk, and Aronian immediately spring to mind. Others?> In the FIDE era, I submit Bent Larsen. This website claims that at Larsen's peak he was #3 in the world, behind Fischer and Spassky:
https://www.chess.com/players/bent-... |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Benzol: You could probably make a case for Akiba Rubinstein and Paul Keres too |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Benzol: Correction Keres did play in the 1948 event didn't he. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | perfidious: <Paul>, indeed he did, with losses to Botvinnik in the first four cycles before booking a win after Botvinnik had already wrapped up matters. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Eggman: It's often debated who was the greatest chess player never to become world champion, but here's another question: who was the greatest never to participate in a world championship? Geller, Stein, Ivanchuk, and Aronian immediately spring to mind. Others?> <In the FIDE era, I submit Bent Larsen.> Well, Larsen, Geller, Stein and other greats of FIDE era participated in zonal, interzonal and candidate tournaments and matches regularly, and so it is not correct to say that they never participated in a world championship. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Honza Cervenka: I think that Rubinstein had solid chance to become world champion, if he would have played match against Lasker in 1912. |
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Nov-15-21 | | Nosnibor: <Honza Cervenka> I agree with you point concerning Rubinstein, but I believe raising the stakes to play was the problem why such a match never happened. Also after this time with the advent of the great war approaching his strength dipped ,witness his poor result in St Petersburg 1914. Another player who briefly shone and could have had a genuine chance before 1898 was Charousek who had beaten Lasker in the last round of the 1896 Nuremberg Congress. However ill health and money prevented such a match taking part. |
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Nov-15-21 | | Olavi: The Lasker - Rubinstein match was agreed on and scheduled for autumn 1914. |
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