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Robert James Fischer vs Efim Geller
"Monte Carlo Simulation" (game of the day Apr-16-2018)
Monte Carlo (1967), Monte Carlo MNC, rd 11, Apr-04
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. Poisoned Pawn Accepted (B97)  ·  0-1

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Apr-16-18
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  offramp: <Richard Taylor: ..Your Aunt wasn't named Vas by any chance was she?>

She might have been. Would it make a vast difference if she was?

Apr-16-18  Strelets: Diamond cutting diamond. Two of the most important theorists of the Sicilian Defense meet and the point goes to... Geller!
Apr-16-18
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  AylerKupp: <Richard Taylor> I had an uncle once and he was referred to as "Vas the Impaler" but I was too young and uneducated to know what that meant.
Apr-16-18
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  harrylime: <kevin86: Geller plays the poisoned pawn vs Fischer and wins! Need I say more?>

yes !

SAY MORE pleeesz

GELLER was a COMMIE cheat who got lucky against Bobby.

Bobby v The WORLD.

Apr-16-18
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  Benzol: I'd love to have seen Fischer playing a few games with Nezhmetdinov. Pity they never played one another.
Apr-16-18
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  harrylime: Fischer lost a game.

Shock.

And yeah I know...

but GELLER was the SOVIET MACHINE .

Bobby was on his own.

Apr-16-18  RookFile: Geller reminds me of Marshall. Not so much a strong match player as a terrific tournament player. In any one game Geller was extremely dangerous against anyone.
Apr-16-18
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  harrylime: In a match Fischer would have chewed up and spat out Geller like the non entity he was.
Apr-16-18  morfishine: Geller was one of the most dangerous players. If his discipline was "tweaked", he may have ascended the heights of Chess lore

Yet he, as Spassky's second, pointed out Spassky's lack of discipline in preparing for Fischer in 1972

Ironic, don't you think?

*****

Apr-16-18
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  harrylime: <morfishine> is a an example of the delusion and fantasy surrounding modern chess.

I say modern. But Fischer is the most modern chess player ever.

Fischer would have absoluteley destroyed GELLER in a match .. and Bobby would ofcourse have not been playing just GELLER....

Apr-17-18
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  Richard Taylor: <AylerKupp: <Richard Taylor> I had an uncle once and he was referred to as "Vas the Impaler" but I was too young and uneducated to know what that meant.>

What a pity! He was a wonderful chap! He was a Leader of Transgenderalia and was, a great blood man, full of blood, of great stock. He stood 200 cubits high and could imbibe 20,000 bales of hay, 2000 quaffs of blood seasoned with spermati, and twenty million quarters of human, 100 millions of pig roasted and spiced, and was a great, immensely large man who bestrid the world like a Colossus. As he did tread he shook the earth and the seas rose up to celebrate even from 100000 miles afar. He did the world the great service of removing from it 100 million degenerate Bulgarians and other savages. The method was wonderful. He and his fellow one-eyed Gigantoids hoisted them up with the aid of thousands and thousand of insane Orks onto crosses where they were hooked and allowed to hang. The they were pricked, spat on, pissed on, ejaculated upon and forced indeed to ejaculate. Then after some seasoning the Impalers, of which there were 200 million proceeded to both torture and skilfully impale each of those (not all were Bulgarians of Transgenderanians, there were also other degenerates who were rightly dealt to). Then the ritual Impaling took place.

Your Uncle was the centre of 20 hundred hundred hundred years of celebrations and 500 thousand years of feasting and orgies and rampaging. Meanwhile thousand of Deferens were forced to confess. These false prophets were immediately after 20,000 thousand years in suspension, impaled also. So in all about 2000 million million human vermin were impaled. The impaling your Glorious Uncle had prepared was exquisite (as a hobby he practiced butchery): Vas the Deferentier he was called (no one knew what this meant but it caused all who heard this, and witnessed the Impaling, to have instant and endless ejaculations. And those to be impaled were also vastly aroused). (Though a Deferenter he deferred not! Ha ha..)

Then a great dance by a chosen Virgin took place to rythmically insane music by on Stavarensky...(this was played for 2,000 hundred twenty twenty twenty twenty years on average...)

The net result was that the land all around those who were impaled by Vas was greatly enriched and made fertile. Beings sprang from the very ground as the ejaculate drops dropped and thus sprouted like the Dragon teeth of Cadmus into thousands of cleansed and healthy Transgenderanians.....A new and boundless race possessed of enormous bowls and of Engendering equipage emerged to populate the Earth...

As nephew of the Great Vas I feel you should know this history.

Apr-17-18
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  Richard Taylor: <offramp: <Richard Taylor: ..Your Aunt wasn't named Vas by any chance was she?> She might have been. Would it make a vast difference if she was?>

Yes, yes, she was nearly a Vast!

Apr-19-18
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  AylerKupp: <<Richard Taylor> What a pity!.>

Thank you immensely. I can hardly think of words to express my gratitude and, as you and others know, to render me speechless is a considerable accomplishment, and worthy of everyone's gratitude. Anyone that was the centre [sic] of 20 hundred hundred hundred years of feasting and orgies and rampaging is worthy of our admiration, or at least worthy of having a chess opening named after him. Yes, you have opened my eyes. I was clearly not aware of this aspect of my genealogy. Again, the things you learn by visiting <chessgames.com>!. I only hope that I can be considered at least a little bit worthy of his legacy. And I hope to be able to visit Transgenderalia soon. Do you know if they accept American Express?

BTW, I suffer from bronchitis and need to periodically squirt Symbicort up my nose for relief. I was so impressed with your research that I have named the device I use "Vlad the Inhaler".

Dec-21-19  Howard: In the latest issue of CL, a review is given of a book on Geller's best games. In it, the move 20.Bf3 is analyzed to a win.

It also states that detailed analysis is on uschess.org's pdf file---whatever that means.

Apr-05-20  dhotts: Amazing how Bobby's 20th move, 20.Bg4 is a fatal mistake, as 20.Qc2 is suggested by silicon as much better.
Apr-06-20
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  WorstPlayerEver: Position after 19... Bb7


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My take is that Fischer overlooked the Black Queen would end up at d3 after 20. Bg4, he must've have blamed himself for such impatience after Black played 20... dxc4

Because the point of 20. Qc2 is an opportunity to play Qa4+ so Black can't play Qa3-d3 like they did in the actual game. Not such a biggie for a grandmaster. A positional finesse, so to speak.

Also 21. Qc2 probably had saved the game, while even 22. Bf7+ had given Black a hard time when it comes to a win for Black.

But I'm sure Fischer immediately noticed he had spoiled the win for White and wanted to leave the stage asap.

Apr-06-20  ewan14: Geller got lucky against Fischer TWICE in 1967 !

- Fischer not the greatest player in the
world in 1967

Apr-06-20  ewan14: It is amusing to me that Geller beat Fischer twice in 1967 in '' complex '' games yet , a year later , Spassky was beating Geller ( heavily ) in '' complex positions ( the Closed Sicilians )
Jun-29-20  Howard: 20. Qc2 would have DRAWN, according to Stockfish. That’s news to me.
Jun-29-20  Howard: Oops ! Make that 21.Qc2.
Jun-29-20  utssb: <ewan14>
I think the stereotype was that Fischer struggled in irrational positions (pieces hanging; lines and diagonals wide open; activity for both sides). Spassky's Closed Sicilian was complex but highly positional. Lots of piece maneuvering and carefully prepared pawn breaks. So Geller would be good in open, tactical positions but weaker in slow, positional games.
Jun-29-20  W Westerlund: I always admired Geller. I liked his aggressive non-compromising style. One of his problems was that his results were irregular. In and after 72, there was a big feud between Geller and Spassky. Geller made it clear that Spassky had been lazy. This is certainly true. In 72 Spassky's best days were already over.
Jun-29-20  W Westerlund: There is perhaps a factor which is somehwat overlooked when discussing Fischer's diatribes and paranoia about the 'Soviets': Tal, Botvinnik, Flohr, Furman, Korchnoi, Geller were all Jewish. I probably forget some.
The man got sick early on in life and as we know it didn't improve.
Jun-29-20
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  HeMateMe: <Also, it is worth mentioning that if my auntie had a Vas Deferens tube she would be my uncle.>

I rely on <offramp> for inspiration!

Also, Fischer was an expert on openings. How could he get blown out in such well travelled territory as the Sicilian PP?

Jul-28-21  Justin796: This was a strange game where Fischer was ahead till move 20. Then he makes a series of mistakes, one worse than the next, until he resigns by move 25!
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