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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: Reposted from rogoff forum :
<MrMelad: <Mortimer> I am furious with my leaders to a degree that you can not comprehend. I have <always> supported peace and the two states solution throughout my life> Respect to <mrmelad> for that. <mrmelad> , You should also visit forum of <alexmagnus> , I think. <alexmagnus> says he is Jew according to some criterion and he has relatives , friends jn Israel and he has visited Israel many tines. Like you, <alexmagnus> too is highly intelligent and very sane, rational , righteous |
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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: I am stealing this and posting in rogoff forum : <alexmagnus: Hamas doesn't want a two state solution, sure. Neither does the Israeli right.
But who says the populations of the two countries (let's call Palestine one too, after all it's recognized by over a 100 countries) have to always be on the side of these hardliners?In the early 1990s, Israel voted for Rabin and therefore for peace. In the mid-1990s, according to a poll, 80% (!) of Palestinians were pro-two-states and for achieving it by peaceful means. It shows: the current situation can change radically, just as it changed since the 1990s. Why did both sides become more radical? Because the peace process of the 1990s got sabotaged. First by Netanyahu (who became PM in 1996), who clearly never wanted two states. Then by the Second Intifada, which was basically a reaction to Israel radicalizing. From there, things went downhill on both sides. Until now, when there is an outraght fascist government in Israel and the discorse is dominated by the Hamas terrorists in Palestine. But if there is anything the October 7 massacre showed, it is that Israel's strategy of "managing the conflict" failed. Pro-peace Israelis have warned of such a failure for years. They were not heard. Hopefully they will be heard now. After the initial revenge lust is satisfied. As for the Palestinians - how will they react if Israel does, as I suggest, start rewarding non-violence? Could we turn back to the climate as it was in the early to mid 1990s?> |
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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: <nok: <<Zionist Stutters Over Question>
What if Hamas was hiding in Israel?
Would the Israeli army be pursuing the same tactics with regard to civilian life?> https://www.tiktok.com/@thegoodremi.>
I have a question , guys , If you please .
Can hamas hide in israel ? Is it possible ?
Consider this assertion - <if hamas hiding in gaza , then there is some kind of support for hamas among civilian population - at least some part of civilian population is helping ...that support won't be there in israel and therefore hamas can not hide in israel > - true or false ? |
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Oct-31-23
 | | alexmagnus: Hamas hiding in Israel? Given Hamas' ideology, I doubt they could hide even if they wanted. One thing about October 7 was that they didn't just kill Jews - they killed Arabs too. Fully intentionally. Palestinian citizens of Israel are just as big pain in the ass for the Hamas as Israel itself - as many of them (a minority of them, but not an insignificant one) identify as Israeli <and> Palestinian. The existence of such an identity, with full devotion to both parts of it ("Israel is my country, Arabic my language, Palestinian my culture"), is, of course, quite unpleaant to a Hamas member. |
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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: <saffuna: <Plainly, the US and Israel oppose a ceasefire.>
Netanyahu said so directly: No ceasefire.
He needs to be forced from office>
All the problems in world are caused by far tight extremists or far left extremists .... Extremists like putin, netanyahu , Trump should not be in power . Sane, righteous people like <saffuna> , <johnlspouge> , <stone free or die > , <keypusher> , <alexmagnus> , <mrmelad> et al want hamas to be punished but at the same time innocent Palestinians be protected and helped . On the other hand , world is messed up , so that is just wishful thinking, says this columnist <The only true law of war is savagery. Gaza isn’t facing anything different
There’s no reason to believe that any other kind of war in Gaza might have been more humane. The idea that war can be civilised by law has tranquillised our imagination> https://theprint.in/opinion/the-onl... |
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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: Thank you fir thus post , <alexmagnus> . Stealing this and posting in rogoff forum :
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alexmagnus: Hamas hiding in Israel? Given Hamas' ideology, I doubt they could hide even if they wanted.
One thing about October 7 was that they didn't just kill Jews - they killed Arabs too. Fully intentionally.Palestinian citizens of Israel are just as big pain in the ass for the Hamas as Israel itself - as many of them (a minority of them, but not an insignificant one) identify as Israeli <and> Palestinian. The existence of such an identity, with full devotion to both parts of it ("Israel is my country, Arabic my language, Palestinian my culture"), is, of course, quite unpleaant to a Hamas member.> |
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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: Typo : fir thus = for this
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| Oct-31-23 | | Rdb: <alexmagnus> , Israeli settlements in gaza and West Bank- what do you think about that , If you please . Thank you . Regards 🙏🙏 |
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Nov-01-23
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European Union:
1. Firouzja 2777
2. Giri 2752
3. Rapport 2748
4. Vachier-Lagrave 2734
5. Duda 2731
6. Topalov 2727
7. Keymer 2721
8. Sjugirov 2703
9-10. Van Foreest 2700
9-10. Deac 2700
Former Sovier Union:
1. Nepomniachtchi 2771
2. Karjakin 2750
3. Radjabov 2745
4. Mamedyarov 2734
5. Grischuk 2732
6. Abdusattorov 2722
7. Artemiev 2714
8. Dubov 2710
9. Martirosyan 2708
10. Eljanov 2697
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2795
2. Nakamura 2778
3. So 2752
4. Anand 2748
5. Gukesh 2746
6. Dominguez 2745
7. Praggnanandhaa 2741
8. Aronian 2727
9. Vidit 2715
10. Erigaisi 2713
Asia:
1. Ding 2780
2. Anand 2748
3. Gukesh 2746
4. Praggnanandhaa 2741
5. Maghsoodloo 2732
6. Le 2731
7. Wei 2729
8. Abdusattorov 2722
9. Yu 2720
10. Vidit 2715
Born later than the world champion:
1. Firouzja 2777
2-3. So 2752
2-3. Giri 2752
4. Rapport 2748
5. Gukesh 2746
6. Praggnanandhaa 2741
7. Maghsoodloo 2732
8. Duda 2731
9. Wei 2729
10. Abdusattorov 2722
Nuclear powers:
1. Caruana 2795
2. Ding 2780
3. Nakamura 2778
4. Firouzja 2777
5. Nepomniachtchi 2771
6. So 2752
7. Karjakin 2750
8. Anand 2748
9. Gukesh 2746
10. Dominguez 2745
Old Guard:
1. Anand 2748
2. Dominguez 2745
3. Grischuk 2732
4-5. Aronian 2727
4-5. Topalov 2727
6. Eljanov 2697
7. Svidler 2689
8. Sargissian 2686
9. Kasimdzhanov 2679
10. Adams 2670 |
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Nov-01-23
| | alexmagnus: <Rdb> There are no settlements in Gaza since 2005. As for the West Bank, I think no new settlements should be build, and the existing ones should be slowly but surely deconstructed. Slowly nothing good for either country came from the hasty "disengangement" from Gaza in 2005. Neither side was really prepared for it. It was pure chaos. This is why I said about a need for a deoccupation <plan>. Without a plan, this conflict is doomed to continue forever. At best a plan approved by both sides. |
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| Nov-01-23 | | Rdb: <alexmagnus> , thanks once again for your insights/inputs . Much appreciated. Once again, I am stealing 🙏🙏
<alexmagnus: <Rdb> There are no settlements in Gaza since 2005.
As for the West Bank, I think no new settlements should be build, and the existing ones should be slowly but surely deconstructed. Slowly nothing good for either country came from the hasty "disengangement" from Gaza in 2005. Neither side was really prepared for it. It was pure chaos.This is why I said about a need for a deoccupation <plan>. Without a plan, this conflict is doomed to continue forever. At best a plan approved by both sides> |
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| Nov-01-23 | | Rdb: The stuff of Hollywood movies - facts stranger than fiction
<Why Netanyahu helped fund Hamas and how that backfired for Israel> https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto... |
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Nov-01-23
| | alexmagnus: The Hamas appeared long before Netanyahu became PM, in the late 1980s. Israel did indeed not disturb its early years in any way, hoping to create a counterweight to the PLO, which, as the internationally recognized sole representative of the Palestinian people, became quite powerful. What Israel didn't foresee: the Hamas will become even more powerful. And unlike PLO, which eventually recognized Israel, Hamas is not even close to such a recognition. Also, Hamas has been more radical in its methods since the very beginning. Allowing it to exist without any obstacles was quite a blunder. Now it's exactly the opposite: the once mightly PLO, and the PA, plays no role and is hated by most Palestinians. |
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| Nov-02-23 | | Rdb: Thanks once again <alexmagnus> for insights/inputs. Stealing once again , with gratitude 🙏🙏
Me : The stuff of Hollywood movies - facts stranger than fiction <Why Netanyahu helped fund Hamas and how that backfired for Israel> https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/world... <alexmagnus: The Hamas appeared long before Netanyahu became PM, in the late 1980s.
Israel did indeed not disturb its early years in any way, hoping to create a counterweight to the PLO, which, as the internationally recognized sole representative of the Palestinian people, became quite powerful.What Israel didn't foresee: the Hamas will become even more powerful. And unlike PLO, which eventually recognized Israel, Hamas is not even close to such a recognition. Also, Hamas has been more radical in its methods since the very beginning. Allowing it to exist without any obstacles was quite a blunder. Now it's exactly the opposite: the once mightly PLO, and the PA, plays no role and is hated by most Palestinians> |
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| Nov-02-23 | | Rdb: Part 1
<nok: I won't name names, but I noticed the libs who like to say "omg omg Lenin killed Tsarina Alexandra" are strangely quiet since the start of the full-on genocide>
OK, once again , <alexmagnus> or someone else help me here , if you please - how is what Israel doing a genocide ? What Israel is doing may be a very bad police and israelis may be hasty and therefore inhumane/inconsiderate due to that haste but how is it genocide when all they trying to do is to eliminate a terrorist organisation viz hamas Thank you. Regards |
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| Nov-02-23 | | Rdb: Part 2
I repost this insightful article - not in order to condone any sufferings caused by this war to Palestinians but to wonder if some other nation/people could have done any different than what Israel is doing in response to October 7 if they decoded to go for war on a terrorist organization. I mean either it is war on terror or some other policy . If war on terror is the response to October 7 , then <The only true law of war is savagery. Gaza isn’t facing anything different
There’s no reason to believe that any other kind of war in Gaza might have been more humane. The idea that war can be civilised by law has tranquillised our imagination> https://theprint.in/opinion/the-onl... |
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| Nov-03-23 | | Rdb: <nok: <diceman: <If the Palestinians weren’t launching rockets into Israel> They wouldn't be Palestinians.>
You don't think a Good Guy with Rockets should stop a Bad Guy with Missiles?> Presently , I am very busy with some legal case that I am dealing with at the place where I live. However , I would like to expand my clarity/depth of understanding about palestinian/Israeli issue as soon as I get time (within a week hopefully) And I would like the help of some of you who know the stuff . So far in my life , I never spent time to understand this issue deeply but now I really , really want to understand . Help me guys , If you please .
So far , <alexmagnus> has been very helpful and I am grateful . I have not yet engaged with <nok> much so far but I would like to because he has differing views from many others on this issue it seems and also it seems that he knows a lot of facts about this issue , he has spent time and energy to understand over the years , it seems . I would request for his help when I am ready and I would be grateful if he obliges. Of course , as usual I would do my homework with the help of chatgpt , bard.googke.com and such Thank you . Regards
Your Truly
<rdb> and high horse of <rdb> |
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Nov-03-23
| | alexmagnus: Regarding the genocide question: if the Palestinian number of deaths reported by the Hamas controlled authorities is correct, it could be considered one. But there are serious doubts about those numbers. Especially after the Al-Ahli hospital incident, where the Hamas reported 200 dead initially, then increased the number to 500, while the damage suggests it was "no less than 10, no more than 100" - not to mention that it was likely caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket. |
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Nov-03-23
| | alexmagnus: Btw Al-Ahli hospital: Hamas reported 500 dead, but Australian media outdid even them by reporting 800. |
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| Nov-05-23 | | Rdb: Part 1
Chatgpt : Israel was created on May 14, 1948. The establishment of the State of Israel followed the United Nations General Assembly's adoption of Resolution 181 on November 29, 1947, which recommended the partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The declaration of the State of Israel was made by David Ben-Gurion, who became its first Prime Minister, and it marked the end of the British Mandate for Palestine. This declaration led to a war between the newly formed Israel and several Arab countries, which is known as the 1948 Arab-Israeli War |
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| Nov-05-23 | | Rdb: Stealing once again with gratitude :
<alexmagnus: Regarding the genocide question: if the Palestinian number of deaths reported by the Hamas controlled authorities is correct, it could be considered one.
But there are serious doubts about those numbers. Especially after the Al-Ahli hospital incident, where the Hamas reported 200 dead initially, then increased the number to 500, while the damage suggests it was "no less than 10, no more than 100" - not to mention that it was likely caused by a misfired Palestinian rocketBtw Al-Ahli hospital: Hamas reported 500 dead, but Australian media outdid even them by reporting 800> |
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| Nov-07-23 | | Rdb: I have a question , guys , If you please.
Far right leaders are problem - including Far right leaders of Israel, as well as of other countries like putin , Trump.However , why should Israel be equated/identified with its Far right leaders ? Israel has had moderate leaders too - Rabin, for example. In fact , <alexmagnus> specifically mentioned Rabin and if I recall correctly <alexmagnus> wants Israel to return to pre natanyahu days , in political terms , and follow the kind of moderate , peaceful steps Rabin was taking . Irussia is not putin the murderer , America is not Trump the murderer/cancer and Israel is not its far right leaders. I liked post of <metatron2> - it was constructive as he said "cut to the chase . What should be done now " <alexmagnus> has been using the similar tone - tone of peace and constructive solution which is fair to both Israel and Palestinians.... Israel bashers need to tone down rhetoric/outrage and instead should focus on talking about constructive solution . And no compromise with terrorism - it must be defeated . Terrorism of hamas is worse than cancer - they are jehadis , religious extremists , for crying out loud. Wake up , guys - religious terrorism is worse than cancer and such . Hamas terrorism is cancer for humanity So , guys , what do you think ? Give me some jnput , if you please , about this post of mine . Thank you . Regards |
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| Nov-12-23 | | Rdb: OK, here is a brilliant article specially for <johnlspouge> and <keypusher> and whoever else is capable of understanding it - I guess <alexmagnus> already is saying something similar ...
<What Palestinians could have learnt from Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi’s message of non-violence is lost as both sides are overcome with rage and passion Friends have been asking me why I have not written on the Hamas-Israel bloodbath. I reply that I have little new to say on a conflict more than 75 years old that looks like it might continue for another century. is easy to assign blame to both sides. It is equally easy to give a long, horrifying history of the terrible oppression of both sides through the ages. I sometimes say, a la Shakespeare, “A plague on both your houses.” I have found myself defending Palestinians when talking to Jews, and defending Israelis when talking to Muslims. Both sides are full of passion and rage, unmindful of their own transgressions. Hamas is accused, rightly, of terrorism in its attack on an Israeli musical festival, killing women and children. Israel has killed far more women and children in its bombing of Gaza. More to the point. Jewish leaders galore were guilty of terrorist activity when Britain ruled the region till 1948. They blew up railways and bridges, blew up the British civilian headquarters in the King David Hotel, and assassinated former British Secretary of State for the Colonies Lord Moyne and UN mediator Count Bernadotte. The most vicious killers were the Stern Gang and Irgun, yet their leaders like Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir went on to become prime ministers of Israel. History is written by the winners. Today, Benjamin Netanyahu is determined to decapitate Hamas. But even if he kills current Hamas leaders, new ones will rise, yearning for revenge. Mahatma Gandhi once said that if you seek an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, you will end up with a blind and toothless people. The peacemakers are weary and sidelined. The hawks dominate. Anwar El-Sadat, who negotiated Egypt’s peace accord with Israel in 1979, was assassinated by his own people for being too pro-Israel. Israel’s Yitzhak Rabin, who negotiated the 1993 Oslo accord for moving toward a two-state solution, was assassinated by his own people for being too pro-Palestinian. This is reminiscent of Mahatma Gandhi being assassinated by a Hindu for being too pro-Muslim. In this column, let me focus on just one issue. Whatever the merits of the Palestinian side, it has lost out by its attraction to violence and refusal to use Gandhian tactics of peaceful non-cooperation> https://swaminomics.org/what-palest... |
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Dec-01-23
| | alexmagnus: December:
European Union:
1. Firouzja 2763
2. Giri 2754
3. Keymer 2738
4. Duda 2732
5-6. Rapport 2731
5-6. Vachier-Lagrave 2731
7. Topalov 2727
8. Sjugirov 2703
9. Deac 2690
10. Saric 2685
Former Soviet Union:
1. Nepomniachtchi 2771
2. Karjakin 2750
3. Grischuk 2732
4. Abdusattorov 2727
5-6. Mamedyarov 2723
5-6. Radjabov 2723
7. Artemiev 2711
8. Dubov 2710
9. Sindarov 2701
10. Eljanov 2691
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2794
2. Nakamura 2788
3. So 2752
4. Anand 2748
5. Dominguez 2745
6. Praggnanandhaa 2740
7. Vidit 2737
8. Erigaisi 2727
9. Aronian 2723
10. Gukesh 2720
Asia:
1. Ding 2780
2. Anand 2748
3. Maghsoodloo 2742
4. Praggnanandhaa 2740
5. Vidit 2737
6. Le 2731
7. Wei 2729
8-9. Abdusattorov 2727
8-9. Erigaisi 2727
10. Gukesh 2720
Born later than the world champion:
1. Firouzja 2763
2. Giri 2754
3. So 2752
4. Maghsoodloo 2742
5. Praggnanandhaa 2740
6. Keymer 2738
7. Vidit 2737
8. Duda 2732
9. Rapport 2731
10. Wei 2729
Nuclear powers:
1. Caruana 2794
2. Nakamura 2788
3. Ding 2780
4. Nepomniachtchi 2771
5. Firouzja 2763
6. So 2752
7. Karjakin 2750
8. Anand 2748
9. Dominguez 2745
10. Praggnanandhaa 2740
Old Guard:
1. Anand 2748
2. Dominguez 2745
3. Grischuk 2732
4. Topalov 2727
5. Aronian 2723
6. Eljanov 2691
7. Svidler 2689
8. Kasimdzhanov 2684
9. Bacrot 2683
10. Sargissian 2672 |
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Dec-02-23
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Whatever happened to Chumlee on Pawn Stars? |
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