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| Nov-17-21 | | Albertan: Is Alireza Firouzja Reincarnated Capablanca:
https://www.chess.com/article/view/... |
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Nov-17-21
 | | 0ZeR0: <Lambda>
I think that's an excellent point. And it explains simply why a human will never be as strong as an engine no matter how good they are. It is very difficult, virtually impossible for humans to see certain engine moves because we don't have the calculation abilities and our intuition tells us it must be wrong. |
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| Nov-18-21 | | MrMelad: Firouzja's current run is extremely impressive. He's won 15 of his last 21 games (his current game against Mastrovasilis is not finished yet, but I assume it will end in another victory, based on computer eval and material balance at move 40), drew 5 and lost just 1 (against Caruana) and that's when facing 2600+ opposition. During this run he defeated Karjakin (a previous world championship challenger) and Nepo (the current challenger), and passed Caruana (another previous challenger) in the live ratings list. He is also just an inch away from 2800 ratings. The timing of this cannot be a coincidence. The run started just after his loss to Carlsen and during the wait for the highly anticipated Carlsen-Nepo match. Alireza is certainly making his case for a title run, and that's when he is only 18! Amazing. If he keeps his current form he may even pass Carlsen in the ratings list and may become world #1 rated player, like Carlsen did before becoming the world champion. If Carlsen wins the match with Nepo (which will likely happen), I think Alireza will be a small favorite to win the next candidates and get a chance to become world's youngest ever world champion (which is unlikely to happen). |
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| Nov-18-21 | | ndg2: Alieeza won his game against the Greek GM and is still on his way to #2 spot and 2800 ELO. |
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| Nov-18-21 | | fisayo123: <Alireza is certainly making his case for a title run, and that's when he is only 18! Amazing. If he keeps his current form he may even pass Carlsen in the ratings list and may become world #1 rated player, like Carlsen did before becoming the world champion.> There was no dominant World Champion when Carlsen became number 1. He needed a rating of 2814 in the January 2011 rating list. Firouzja will need to climb a bit further than that to topple Carlsen. I won't put it beyond him though. |
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| Nov-18-21 | | MrMelad: <fisayo123> Well, yhea. But that’s kinda like Giri’s argument that Carlsen never had to face Carlsen in a tournament therefore his life is easier. That’s not Carlsen fault that no one was as dominant, right? And probably also Carlsen may as well be a driver for Firouzja’s ambition and perhaps even ability. I mean if there was a dominant player rated 2850+ when Carlsen was rising, he might have learned from and reached a higher rating sooner. Lots of ifs, I know… |
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Nov-19-21
 | | perfidious: The fact that Carlsen was the top player in the world before ascending to the throne, and was, therefore, not really all that is an only too typical tack taken by those who would wish to slag his achievements. Same dog, only washed. |
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Nov-19-21
 | | harrylime: <<perfidious: The fact that Carlsen was the top player in the world before ascending to the throne, and was, therefore, not really all that is an only too typical tack taken by those who would wish to slag his achievements.
Same dog, only washed.>>
Do you cook chickens live ? |
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Nov-19-21
 | | Williebob: Man, this is a tough crowd. Winning outright three consecutive World Championship matches, yet not dominant enough to be a difficult opponent for Carlsen.
That makes no sense. By the way, Anand still has the most career wins against Carlsen in the long game.
Firouzja has been a joy to follow during this hot streak. Though I was deeply impressed by Caruana's unambiguous message to him at the Grand Swiss - you'll need to go through me first buddy! |
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Nov-19-21
| | perfidious: <Williebob>, Anand has had a fantastic career, yet to hear some tell it, does not belong in the same room as any of those bandied about in debates over the GOAT. His first misfortune was coming of age in the shadow of Kasparov and Karpov, then past his prime, being dismissed at one stroke by many who already deified Carlsen before he won the title. |
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Nov-19-21
| | Williebob: No doubt, <perfidious>. Can the naysayers at least agree on something like, "Strongest player who people forget was World Champion"? |
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| Nov-19-21 | | MrMelad: <Wlliebob> I understood <fisayo123> comment in the context of ratings at the time of Carlsen rise to the top. I don’t think Anand’s (fantastic) career is relevant to that. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | fisayo123: <MrMelad> Exactly. For me, Anand is one of the best ever and my initial comment had a context to it that was not questioning any of his accomplishments. But Anand was not a dominant World champion, that's just a fact. Dominant champions for me are Karpov, Kasparov, Carlsen and pretty much that's the end of my list. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | fabelhaft: Karpov and Kasparov really destroyed things a bit for future World Champions. Between 1935 and 1975 it was unusual to see a reigning World Champion winning the strongest tournaments. Without checking, it feels as if none of the top tournaments during those 40 years were won by a reigning World Champion. But after Karpov and Kasparov all World Champions are compared to them rather than to Petrosian or Spassky. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | fabelhaft: Since Jobava has dropped so low on the rating list it isn't enough with a win today to reach 2800 for Firouzja. He will be 2798.9 if he beats Jobava. |
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Nov-19-21
 | | moronovich: <fabelhaft> If you like, then check out Jobavas game from yesterday ! I promise you fireworks. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | ndg2: Jobava is stronger than his current rating suggests. This guy had a peak rating of 2734 and he has a very entertaining style. This will be an exciting game for sure. It's a pity that a win over the Georgian GM would not bring Firouzja over 2800 yet. |
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Nov-19-21
 | | alexmagnus: What happened to Jobava anway, why has he declined so rapidly? He was still above 2700 in November 2017, but from then and till August 2019 on every single list either fell or stayed the same, with exception of two lists where he gained 2 points each. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | fabelhaft: It's not exactly like he is getting senile either, he is younger than for example top ten players like Aronian and Grischuk. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | EdwinKorir: I predict an Alireza win |
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| Nov-19-21 | | ndg2: He did it again: an impatient attack against an unusually angsty Jobava resulted in a 1-0. Could as well ended in a draw with right defense, but a blunder by black in move 41 sealed the deal. Firo still #3 though, needs 0.1 points to equalize with Ding and 1.1 points to reach 2800. |
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| Nov-19-21 | | MrMelad: That’s starting to become ridiculous. Players will now consider resigning before move one.. What an incredible winning spree. Gotta be heard in Nepo/Carlsen’s ivory tower |
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| Nov-19-21 | | nok: This Euro team championship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-P... |
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| Nov-19-21 | | MrMelad: I don’t know <nok>, maybe in some future, but currently more like the French prince from bell air.. :) |
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| Nov-19-21 | | ndg2: In the next game of the European Team Championship, Alireza will face finally a more than worthy opponent: Alexander Grischuk. |
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