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| Dec-30-22 | | Messiah: Justin was in a traffic jam, and arrived to the game when he was down on 31 seconds. |
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| Jan-04-23 | | tonsillolith: Up until around <40...b5> this endgame reminded me of Topalov vs Carlsen, 2008 But then I rewatched the Topalov-Carlsen game, and decided not so much. Oh well. |
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| Feb-05-23 | | goodevans: Jolly clever pun. Very good indeed.
As for the game, never a fan of the sort of blunders that often decide blitz games but 46.Nxc4+?? Surely every fibre in your body is telling you not to make that move! |
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| Feb-05-23 | | stone free or die: This is an inside-pun if every there was one. Terrible! |
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Feb-05-23
 | | FSR: I echo <stone free or die>. |
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Feb-05-23
| | FSR: I echo <stone free or die>, and also <goodevans>' comment on 46.Nxc4+?? I can't imagine what would possess Kovalev to play such a move. |
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| Feb-05-23 | | SChesshevsky: <...what would possess Kovalev to play such a move.> By the video, it looked like he had 3 or 4 seconds in time scramble play. Plus Magnus had the initiative with also the better king and rook. Plus the pressure of playing Magnus in an endgame. He had to play something quick with no time to check too many options. And, by the video, he did show reluctance. And a couple of moves later shook his head, knowing he was lost. |
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Feb-05-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: The strain of defending an inferior and passive position for so long might have played a role. White's moves from 14-20 puzzled me then and puzzle me still. Don't care what the silicon monsters might say, any carbon-based life form would have trouble securing a draw after 20.Bc3. So the question becomes this: why not play 16.Qxd5? Perhaps White didn't like 16...Be6; 17.Qe4,f6; 18.Nf3, but at least he has a Carlsen Pawn for compensation. |
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Feb-05-23
 | | perfidious: <Englishman....The strain of defending an inferior and passive position for so long might have played a role....Don't care what the silicon monsters might say, any carbon-based life form would have trouble securing a draw after 20.Bc3....> This type of slightly strategically inferior ending is damnably unpleasant to defend at the best of times, and particularly so opposite the likes of Carlsen, who displays a tenacity in them with the whip hand which is reminiscent of Karpov or Lasker at their deadly best. |
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Feb-05-23
 | | Teyss: Terrific pun!
Signed: Messiah.
See Carlsen at 1 minute of the video running to the board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cs... Then down to 30 secs he still manages to win. What's surprising is Kovalev played the opening very slowly: by move 13 he was below Carlsen in time. Maybe a gentlemanly gesture to avoid an undue advantage? Yet playing MC is not really an advantage. |
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Feb-05-23
 | | offramp: <Teyss: ...See Carlsen at 1 minute of the video running to the board: ... Then down to 30 secs he still manages to win.> I am afraid that no one will hear gasps of wonder that Carlsen only had 30 seconds left. Carlsen plays 1000s of bullet games (1m) and win at very high standard. |
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| Feb-05-23 | | Messiah: Shocking pun, well done. |
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Feb-05-23
| | Teyss: <offramp> That's when his opponents also have 1 min so expect mistakes on both sides. It's one-side hyperbullet here, not to mention the stress of arriving late thinking the game might already be over. Also Kovalev is no patzer, although I'm wondering about his time management. And gasping of wonder. |
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| Feb-05-23 | | stone free or die: Kovalev has just 4s on his clock after 45...Re8, so it was a time scramble at that point: https://youtu.be/9Cswfzgo1MM?t=461
click for larger viewEven if 46.Nf5+ is a drawing move, the Black bishop can still be a pain. |
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| Feb-05-23 | | Cibator: In 1964 the UK's BBC aired a TV play called Justin Thyme, which was yet another spy-spoof. But there must have been many even earlier examples of fictional characters using that joke-name. Anyone know of any .... anyone ... ? |
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Feb-06-23
 | | OhioChessFan: Even <messiah> liked it. |
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| Feb-09-23 | | stone free or die: For the sake of history -
The pun is poking fun at <Messiah>, who's well known for trolling pretty much any Carlsen loss he can find on <CG>. In <Messiah>'s universe, Magnus is nicknamed Justin (after Justin Timberlake)(*). So, given all this, <Missy> cooked up a pretty good double entendre, gently trolling the troll. * * * * *
(*) And also, <Messiah>'s favorite word is "Terrible" (thus, my first post above). . |
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Apr-12-23
| | Teyss: <stone free or die> I like your second degree approach, makes the pun better. Apparently Messiah calls Carlsen "Justin" in reference to Bieber, not Timberlake: young, successful, weird hairdo and supposedly arrogant. See Messiah chessforum (kibitz #179) and Messiah chessforum (kibitz #177). Sally Simpson reveals the idea is actually not Messiah's: Magnus Carlsen (kibitz #84137). We have to give great artists (Messiah) their fair share of creation, no more, no less. For memo I'm not <completely> bonkers reading every page of this site, I just(...) searched Messiah & Bieber. Timberlake doesn't give anything. |
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| Apr-14-23 | | stone free or die: <Teyss> thanks kindly for the kindly correction about <Justin>. Pop culture is definitely one of my weakest categories! Your synopsis is pretty good:
<young, successful, weird hairdo and supposedly arrogant.> Might I ask you to explain the <Bill> analogue as well, as well?! . |
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Apr-15-23
| | Teyss: <stone free or die> You're welcome, it's always nice when users revert. No clue about Bill, I asked on a thread, no answer, probably nobody knows and/or cares. I'll ask Messiah on his forum where you can see the reply, I might have more chances than you would given the liabilities ;) Don't expect a revolution in knowledge but we never know, we might learn something about Nepo and since "Bill" is almost part of CG culture now (ref. MissScarlett's comment), it's better to understand what's going on even if it's a bit silly. |
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| Apr-15-23 | | stone free or die: Hi <Teyss>.
Well, I went back to <Messiah>'s forum to find this post by <beat>, summarizing the nicknames: Messiah chessforum (kibitz #15) <Messiah> then posted that <Bill> was omitted: <<><beatgiant: Can you publish here a list of all the nicknames you've got for top players?
So far, I understand the following:
Justin = Carlsen (Justin Beiber)
Donald = Radjabov (?)
Resultfixer = Mamedyarov (prearranged games)
Putinist = Karjakin (politics)
Angry = Firouzja (temper)
Which others are you using? Also, why call Radjabov Donald? I have seen some of his press conferences and he sounds nothing like Donald Duck or that other guy.> Dear <beatgiant>, thank you for the question. The list lacks just one important member, the Bill Kaulitz of chess, Ian Nepomniachtchi. Radjabov's way of chess life resembles to Trump's way, and this striking similarity makes me wonder if they are the same in the deep. If necessary, I will request a new field on the player pages, <Messiah's naming convention>, and let it populated by the admins.> > Messiah chessforum (kibitz #16) This begs the question - who the heck is <Bill Kaulitz>?!? |
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Apr-15-23
 | | beatgiant: That would be Bill Kaulitz, Tokio Hotel band member. |
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| Apr-15-23 | | stone free or die: So, I'm still baffled I guess. What was the connection? Must be a hair thing of some kind, I reckon.
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Apr-16-23
| | beatgiant: Kaulitz' stepfather is also a rock musician, but I'm not sure if that's enough for him to be considered a "nepo baby." |
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Apr-16-23
| | Teyss: <beatgiant> Thanks for the update. I'm as clueless as sfod about the connection. Hairdo or eccentricity on stage compared to OTB, in a way? Maybe the author will revert. |
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