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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik
"At the Top" (game of the day Jun-13-2019)
Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006), Elista RUS, rd 2, Sep-24
Slav Defense: Czech Variation. Classical System (D18)  ·  0-1

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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik (2006) At the Top
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Nov-04-13  KingV93: 'Master of defense'?
Master of boring his opponent into a mistake.
Admirable in an insipid way I suppose.
Nov-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <KingV93>

Your post would be stupid anywhere, but on this page it's downright cretinous.

Do you really think Topalov was bored during this game?

Nov-04-13  KingV93: <keypusher>
No, of course not.
I'm sorry you find an offhand remark characterizing a contrast in style cretinous. I appreciate attacking play and detest Kramnik and Leko types. It's personal taste, nothing more. Have a great day.
Nov-04-13
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  keypusher: <kingV93>

<I'm sorry you find an offhand remark characterizing a contrast in style cretinous>

What is this "find it cretinous" horseshit? It <is> cretinous.

Saying that Kramnik wins by boring his opponents into making an error isn't an aesthetic judgment or a comment on style. It is wrong and it is almost painfully stupid.

Sorry you made a rankly stupid, cretinous post. Try to make your posts less stupid going forward.

Jun-01-14  cplyakap: If he didn't overlook 32.Rxg4!,I think he is still world champion.
Jun-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Carlsen would probably have snatched the crown from Topalov by now.
Sep-11-14  Boris Schipkov: This interesting game with my notes http://www.chessib.com/kratop6g2.html.
Dec-09-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <"I think he's just the most favoured player in history. He played several matches for the world title but in fact he never really deserved this because he didn't qualify, there were just some political decisions. He never qualified like for example Magnus did or now Vishy Anand."

"Several years ago [the ethics commission of FIDE] tried to investigate his behaviour and then it suddenly turned out that many hours of his behaviour were missing because organisers they destroyed it.... It even becomes more suspicious... The reason they were destroyed because everyone would see that the members of my delegation were right and this is what I believe." ~ Veselin Topalov ~>

It's been eight long years since Elista, and Topa still clinging to this nonsense?

Topa missed a mate in three moves in one of those games!

This one!

If Vlad was cheating with an engine, (as Topa claimed) then surely Kramnik would not have fallen into a losing position like mate in three?!

Topalov lost this game AND the match because he let Danailov, and his own raw emotions get the better of him.

May-17-15  RookFile: What a game. Topalov had winning and drawing chances all along the way, and ends up losing it.
May-18-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <notyetagm:...A great example for the need of <FLExIBILITY IN THINKING> in chess.>

A great example of <A LOWER CASE LETTER INVADING A STRING OF CAPITALS>.

May-09-16  maxi: <RookFile: What a game. Topalov had winning and drawing chances all along the way, and ends up losing it.> That's what happens when you let Kramnik take a pee.
May-09-16  Mr. Bojangles: It is amazing that it has been 10 years since this match 🙄🙄

Gosh we had a blast on this site. It was a great party in hell during and after the match here.

Great times 🍺🍺

Nov-28-16  RookFile: Toiletgate aside, this is an amazing game, warts and all, showing great imagination by both players.
Aug-11-18  dumbgai: It's been 12 years since Toiletgate and I still think this is still the most interesting world championship game in the post-Kasparov era. Kramnik and Bareev have separately provided excellent annotations to the moves.
Nov-02-18  bkpov: 36. Bh6! Am I missing something
Nov-02-18
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  Clement Fraud: <bkpov> <36. Bh6! Am I missing something>

Not as far as I can see Mr bkpov (although my playing strength is not great); 36.Bh6 appears to win black's dark squared Bishop without any compromise: I don't have time (nor the patience) to sift my way through seventy-four pages of Kibitzing remarks, but I feel sure that a winning shot like 36.Bh6 will have been covered extensively in previous entries. 36.Rc1 does seem rather labored by Topalov... maybe he was in a bad mood at the time?

Nov-02-18
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  Dionysius1: How so <bkpov>? SF at 28 ply gives that as dead level. Whether from a bkpov or a whpov :-)
Nov-03-18
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  Clement Fraud: My apologies to bkpov and Dionysius1: One possible line I've been musing is 36.Bh6 Qe4 37.Qxe4 dxe4 38.Nh2 e3 39.Bxg7 e2 40.Nf3 ... but with black still having two connected passers on the Queen's Rook & Knight files... I really don't know?!
Nov-04-18
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  Dionysius1: What did you have in mind after 37. ♗xg7 ? Seems a win for White.
Jun-13-19  dumbgai: Ah, this game again for GOTD. Possibly the most interesting game from a WCh match since the Kasparov era.
Jun-13-19  Ironmanth: Still and ever one of my favorite games! Great attack that sadly just missed. Thanks, chessgames.
Jun-13-19
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  HeMateMe: terrific match, I remember following this one, thinking VK would never be able to recover from the forfeited game.
Jun-13-19  cormier: 31. gf8Q Bf8? 31...Kxf8 32.Qg6 Qe2 33.Qxg4 Bg5 34.Qh5 Ke7 35.Qh7+ Kd8 = 0.00 (36 ply)
Aug-25-19  ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Wow,
The game is kinda interesting! It looks like it has been discussed to the enth degree! One that caught my eyes thought that the cheating allegations should be brought up again! What about THE FACT that There IS NO PROOF that ANY CHEATING Ever Happened! Further that in a COMPUTER Analysis it was Topalov That had a higher percentage Closer to a Computer? Hmmm... I Know.... TOPALOV was CHEATING!!! What about the fact that they don't even shake hands anymore? I've bought the Tmt book by topalov. It is full of his CRYING! No PROOF of anything was ever presented. Topalov is just a POOR SPORT! That is a FACT!! ACME KING KRUSHER!
Nov-04-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: A short video showing how White could have won round 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4...
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