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Oct-16-04
 | | Honza Cervenka: White's combination is fantastic. 22...Ncd3 23.Nxe7+! Kh8! 24.exf6! Rc2 25.Rd2 Qa7+ 26.Kh1 Bxg2+ (26...Qa8 27.Qg4!! with unavoidable mate.) 27.Kxg2  or 22...exf5 23.exf6 Bxf6 24.Bxf6 Ne4 (24...Nxc6 25.Rxf5 ) 25.Bxe4 cannot save black.Later Vyzmanavin's play was not much accurate allowing Sorokin to resist quite long. For example, after 37.Be3! Ra2 38.f6 the game would have been over immediately. |
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Oct-16-04
| | Honza Cervenka: And, of course, if 22...Nxc6, then 23.Qg4+ Kh8 24.exf6 Rg8 25.fxe7+ e5 26.Qh4 (threatening 27.Qf6+; 26...Rxe7 27.Qf6+ Rg7 28.Bxc6 Bxc6 29.Qxe7 ) 26...Nd7 27.Bxc6 Bxc6 28.Bxe5+ Nxe5 29.Qf6+ Rg7 30.Rd8+ |
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Nov-25-04
 | | offramp: I can hardly believe that he saw from move 21 to move 33 - but he must have done! |
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Nov-25-04
| | offramp: Doesn't 24.Ne7 win straight away? |
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| Feb-11-05 | | aw1988: <offramp> Indeed it does. |
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| Feb-18-11 | | acme: It doesn't. Black doesn't need to respond to Ne7. What if he continues with, say, Bxg2? |
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| Feb-18-11 | | siggemannen: really sad... both of these guys are not alive anymore |
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| Jun-20-11 | | Dr. J: 24 Ne7 fails against 24...fxe5 followed by ...Ne6. But not 24...Bxg2?? 25 Qg4 |
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| Aug-22-13 | | phil6875: <Dr.J> 24. Ne7 does win. There's no move 24...fxe5 for Black, do you mean 24...exf5? If so, 25. Rxf5 and Black has three possible moves 25...Bf3, 25...Ne6 and 25...Qa7 all losing. |
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| Apr-23-15 | | FairyPromotion: This is a masterpiece that could have ended up being an even bigger one. <offramp: Doesn't 24.Ne7 win straight away?> 24. Ne7! is completely winning, however the game continuation 24. Rf4!! is even stronger, as it forces mate. The main idea is to play Rh4, Qh5 and force mate on h7. Black's 24... e5 interfered with the idea, however it should have only changed the queens route. Sadly white slipped with 25. Rxd8?, and although his position was still winning, he had to work much harder to convert the full point. What white saw probably was that after 25. Rh4 <Bxf6> (D) comes with tempo on the rook, and that after 26. Rh3 Bxc6 27. Qh5 black can play the clearance sacrifice 27... Bh4 in order to play f6 and defend laterally with the rook, and if instead white plays 28. f6 himself, then 28... Bxg2 29 Rxh4 Be4, there is no mate and white is down 2 minor pieces. However after 25. Rh4 Bxf6:
click for larger viewWhite has <26. Bxe5!> pinning black's bishop, 26 ... Bxe5 27. Qxe5+ f6 (... Kg8 28. Rg4#) 28. Qxc7 with mate coming on h7. 
click for larger view<<<<<<><><><><><<<<<>>><<<>>>>><><><><><>>>>>> After 24. Rf4 another move that changes the dynamics of the mate (and thus is worth analyzing) is 24... Bxc6: 
click for larger viewHere white forces mate by 25. Qg4 Rg8 26. Qh3 Bxf6 (... Bxg2? 27. Qxh7!) 27. Bxf6+ Rg7 28. Qh6 Qg8 29. Rg4, with the option for black to pick his poison. Black's other try here might be 26... exf5 stopping immediate Qh6 or Qxh7 ideas, but it is properly met with 27. Rh4 and all that black can do to resist for a few moves more is the sad 27... Rg7. |
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| Apr-23-15 | | ToTheDeath: This was an exceptional combination. |
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Apr-24-15
| | offramp: 
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Couldn't white win with 27.Rxh7+? |
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| Apr-24-15 | | FairyPromotion: <offramp: Couldn't white win with 27.Rxh7+?> Not really. With the black rook on e8, f8, or g8 white can indeed mate with Rxh7, but here the black king has the e8 square to escape. If white tries to stalemate the king with a quite move, like 27. Rxh7 Kxh7 28. Qh5+ Kg8 <29. Qh6>, black has 29... Ne6, and white is simply down too much material. |
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Apr-24-15
| | offramp: <FairyPromotion>, yes, thank you. As you say, there is an escape route via e8 for black's king. If I was playing the game I would have played 27.Rxh7+ which is bloody poor! I must try harder. |
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| Feb-11-24 | | thegoodanarchist: Sorokin fought until the bitter end. No one can rightly claim otherwise. |
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| Feb-11-24 | | thegoodanarchist: <Feb-18-11 siggemannen: really sad... both of these guys are not alive anymore> Genesis 3:19 (King James Version) tells us: <In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.> Then there is this admonition: <In whatever you do, remember your last days, and you will never sin.> -Sirach 7:36
In any event, Lent is fast approaching. Ash Wednesday comes in half a week. Let us again remember that <for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.> |
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| Feb-11-24 | | thegoodanarchist: <ToTheDeath: This was an exceptional combination.> Very nice. |
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| Feb-11-24 | | thegoodanarchist: <offramp: ... If I was playing the game I would have played 27.Rxh7+ which is bloody poor! I must try harder.> Carlsen sometimes does the "try harding". Your slang is so 2015... :) |
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| Feb-11-24 | | mel gibson: I saw the first ply in under 2 seconds.
Stockfish 16 gives Black a different reply - taking with the Bishop: 21. Nf6+
(21. Nf6+ (1.Nf6+ Bxf6 2.Bxb7 Qxb7 3.exf6 Qb6 4.fxe6 Nxe6 5.Rf2
g6 6.Nxe6 fxe6 7.Qe5 Rcf7 8.Rd6 Qb5 9.Qxb5 axb5 10.Re2 Na2 11.Rexe6 b4
12.Kg2 Nc3 13.g4 g5 14.h4 gxh4 ) +3.05/42 279)
score for White +3.05 depth 42.
If I force SF to take the Knight with the pawn - as per the game -
it's a weaker move for Black:
21. Nf6+ gxf6
22. Nc6
(22. Nc6 (1.Nc6 Kh8 2.exf6 Bd6 3.Rxd6 Bxc6 4.Rd4 Be4
5.Bxe4 Nxe4 6.Qxe4 Nc2 7.Qxa8 Rxa8 8.Re4 e5 9.Rxe5 Rc6 10.Re7 Rf8 11.Bc1
Kg8 12.Bh6 Rxf6 13.Bxf8 Kxf8 14.Re4 Na3 h5 16.Rc5 Nb5 17.Rh4 Kg7 ) +5.24/43 306) score for White +5.24 depth 43 |
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Feb-11-24
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Saw the first move, flubbed everything after that--zero credit, and not a good week with 8 solved and 6 flunked. Monday yet? |
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Feb-11-24
 | | chrisowen: I death its z yu c Nf6+ aka ae o aob job affable pat cc buck with eo Nf6+ dub |
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| Feb-11-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I didn't reply the last 4 problems as I had being a little tired with my own obligations and make bad choices on my answers, shamed to show. By the way, I must say that CG page showed that our friend Brenin (Member since Jan-09-20 ยท Last seen Feb-11-24) has being passed here to visit us. I hope he is fine and be back to give his answers with high quality chess for us. |
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| Feb-11-24 | | Messiah: Too difficult. |
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Feb-11-24
 | | Breunor: Crazy great combination.
I agree with the earliest posters, not only aren't these two with us, but both died young. Both tragedies. |
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| Feb-12-24 | | whiteshark: I didn't find it really difficult. |
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sac: 21.Nf6+