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Vienna (1908) Held from March 23-April 17, 1908, this and the Prague (1908) event in May-June were jubilee tournaments commemorating the 60th anniversary of the reign of Emperor Franz Joseph. They were probably the two most important tournaments of the year, with player lists that included many of the top players of the time: Semion Alapin, Johann Nepomuk Berger, Erich Cohn, Oldrich Duras, Paul F Johner, Paul Saladin Leonhardt, Geza Maroczy, Frank James Marshall, Jacques Mieses, Julius Perlis, Richard Reti, Akiba Rubinstein, Georg Salwe, Carl Schlechter, Rudolf Spielmann, Hugo Suechting, Rudolf Swiderski, Savielly Tartakower, Richard Teichmann, Curt von Bardeleben. Schlechter and Rubinstein started fast with four straight wins, but the latter lost in round 5 and was never able to catch up thereafter. Instead, Maroczy and Duras joined Schlechter in the top group, and though both fell behind in the course of events they were able to finish strong and make up ground on the cruising Schlechter. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 Maroczy X ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 ½ 1 14.0 2 Schlechter ½ X ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 14.0 3 Duras 0 ½ X 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ½ 14.0 4 Rubinstein ½ ½ 1 X ½ 1 ½ 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 13.0 5 Teichmann ½ ½ ½ ½ X ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 12.0 6 Spielmann ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ X 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 0 0 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 11.5 7 Perlis ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 X 0 ½ 1 1 0 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 11.0 8 Tartakower 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 1 X ½ ½ 1 1 0 1 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 11.0 9 Leonhardt ½ 0 0 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ X 1 ½ 0 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 0 ½ 10.0 10 Mieses 0 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 0 ½ 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 ½ ½ 1 0 1 10.0 11 Marshall ½ 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 ½ 1 X ½ 1 0 ½ 1 1 1 1 1 10.0 12 Swiderski 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 1 0 1 1 ½ X 1 0 1 0 ½ 1 1 1 9.5 13 Salwe 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 1 0 1 ½ 0 0 0 X ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 1 8.5 14 Johner 0 0 0 0 0 1 ½ 0 0 0 1 1 ½ X 1 ½ 0 0 1 1 7.5 15 Berger 1 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 X 0 ½ 0 1 1 7.0 16 Suechting 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 1 ½ ½ 1 X ½ 0 ½ ½ 6.5 17 Bardeleben 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ X 0 ½ 1 6.5 18 Alapin 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 X 0 1 6.5 19 Cohn ½ ½ 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 ½ ½ 1 X 1 6.0 20 Reti 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 X 1.5 Note that this tournament is not part of the Trebitsch Memorial series which began with Game Collection: Vienna 1907; see Wikipedia article: Trebitsch Memorial for a list of tournaments and winners of those events. Other errors have been corrected using the round-by-round account given in the tournament book, which is available through Google Books at http://books.google.com/books?id=Jm.... Thanks to <Calli> for providing a cumulative scoretable from a contemporary report in <Wienerschach Zeitung>, which helped clarify some questions. Round 1 (Monday, March 23): Johner 1/2 Perlis; Alapin 1 Reti; Cohn 0 Salwe; Marshall 0 Spielmann; Maroczy 1 Swiderski; Berger 1/2 Leonhardt; Teichmann 1/2 Tartakower; Schlechter 1 Suechting; Duras 1/2 Mieses; Rubinstein 1 Bardeleben STANDINGS: <1.0>: Alapin, Maroczy, Rubinstein, Salwe, Schlechter, Spielmann; <0.5>: Berger, Duras, Johner, Leonhardt, Mieses, Perlis, Tartakower, Teichmann; <0.0>: Bardeleben, Cohn, Marshall, Reti, Suechting, Swiderski Round 2 (Tuesday, March 24): Suechting 0 Duras; Tartakower 0 Schlechter; Leonhardt 1/2 Teichmann; Swiderski 1 Berger; Spielmann 1/2 Maroczy; Salwe 0 Marshall; Reti 0 Cohn; Perlis 1/2 Alapin; Rubinstein 1 Johner; Bardeleben 1/2 Mieses STANDINGSs: <2.0>: Rubinstein, Schlechter; <1.5>: Alapin, Duras, Maroczy, Spielmann; <1.0>: Cohn, Leonhardt, Marshall, Mieses, Perlis, Salwe, Swiderski, Teichmann; <0.5>: Bardeleben, Berger, Johner, Tartakower; <0.0>: Reti, Suechting Round 3 (Wednesday, March 25): Alapin 0 Rubinstein; Cohn 0 Perlis; Marshall 1 Reti; Maroczy 1 Salwe; Berger 1/2 Spielmann; Teichmann 1/2 Swiderski; Schlechter 1 Leonhardt; Duras 1/2 Tartakower; Mieses 1/2 Suechting; Johner 0 Bardeleben STANDINGS: <3.0>: Rubinstein, Schlechter; <2.5>: Maroczy; <2.0>: Duras, Marshall, Perlis, Spielmann; <1.5>: Alapin, Bardeleben, Mieses, Swiderski, Teichmann; <1.0>: Berger, Cohn, Leonhardt, Salwe, Tartakower; <0.5>: Johner, Suechting; <0.0>: Reti Round 4 (Friday, March 27): Tartakower 1/2 Mieses; Leonhardt 0 Duras; Swiderski 0 Schlechter; Spielmann 1/2 Teichmann; Salwe 1/2 Berger; Reti 0 Maroczy; Perlis 1 Marshall; Rubinstein 1 Cohn; Johner 0 Alapin; Von Bardeleben 1/2 Suechting STANDINGS: <4.0>: Rubinstein, Schlechter; <3.5>: Maroczy; <3.0>: Duras, Perlis; <2.5>: Alapin, Spielmann; <2.0>: Marshall, Mieses, Teichmann, Von Bardeleben; <1.5>: Berger, Salwe, Swiderski, Tartakower; <1.0>: Cohn, Leonhardt, Suechting; <0.5>: Johner; <0.0>: Reti Round 5 (Saturday, March 28): Cohn 0 Johner; Marshall 1 Rubinstein; Maroczy 1/2 Perlis; Berger 1 Reti; Teichmann 1/2 Salwe; Schlechter 1/2 Spielmann; Duras 1 Swiderski; Mieses 0 Leonhardt; Suechting 1/2 Tartakower; Alapin 1 Von Bardeleben STANDINGS: <4.5>: Schlechter; <4.0>: Duras, Maroczy, Rubinstein; <3.5>: Alapin, Perlis; <3.0>: Marshall, Spielmann; <2.5>: Berger, Teichmann; <2.0>: Leonhardt, Mieses, Salwe, Tartakower, Von Bardeleben; <1.5>: Johner, Suechting, Swiderski; <1.0>: Cohn; <0.0>: Reti Round 6 (Monday, March 30): Leonhardt 1/2 Suechting; Swiderski 1 Mieses; Spielmann 1/2 Duras; Salwe 1/2 Schlechter; Reti 0 Teichmann; Perlis 1/2 Berger; Rubinstein 1/2 Maroczy; Johner 1 Marshall; Alapin 0 Cohn; Von Bardeleben 1/2 Tartakower STANDINGS: <5.0>: Schlechter; <4.5>: Duras, Maroczy, Rubinstein; <4.0>: Perlis; <3.5>: Alapin, Spielmann, Teichmann; <3.0>: Berger, Marshall; <2.5>: Johner, Leonhardt, Salwe, Swiderski, Tartakower, Von Bardeleben; <2.0>: Cohn, Mieses, Suechting; <0.0>: Reti Round 7 (Tuesday, March 31): Marshall 1 Alapin; Maroczy 1 Johner; Berger 1/2 Rubinstein; Teichmann 1/2 Perlis; Schlechter 1 Reti; Duras 1 Salwe; Mieses 1/2 Spielmann; Suechting 1 Swiderski; Tartakower 1/2 Leonhardt; Cohn 1/2 Von Bardeleben; STANDINGS: <6.0>: Schlechter; <5.5>: Duras, Maroczy; <5.0>: Rubinstein; <4.5>: Perlis; <4.0>: Marshall, Spielmann, Teichmann; <3.5>: Alapin, Berger; <3.0>: Leonhardt, Suechting, Tartakower, Von Bardeleben; <2.5>: Cohn, Johner, Mieses, Salwe, Swiderski; <0.0>: Reti Round 8 (Wednesday, April 1): Swiderski 0 Tartakower; Spielmann 1 Suechting; Salwe 0 Mieses; Reti 1/2 Duras; Perlis 1/2 Schlechter; Rubinstein 1/2 Teichmann; Johner 1 Berger; Alapin 0 Maroczy; Cohn 0 Marshall; Von Bardeleben 0 Leonhardt STANDINGS: <6.5>: Maroczy, Schlechter; <6.0>: Duras; <5.5>: Rubinstein; <5.0>: Marshall, Perlis, Spielmann; <4.5>: Teichmann; <4.0>: Leonhardt, Tartakower; <3.5>: Alapin, Berger, Johner, Mieses; <3.0>: Suechting, Von Bardeleben; <2.5>: Cohn, Salwe, Swiderski; <0.5>: Reti Round 9 (Friday, April 3): Maroczy 1/2 Cohn; Berger 0 Alapin; Teichmann 1 Johner; Schlechter 1/2 Rubinstein; Duras 1 Perlis; Mieses 1 Reti; Suechting 1/2 Salwe; Tartakower 1/2 Spielmann; Leonhardt 0 Swiderski; Marshall 1 Von Bardeleben STANDINGS: <7.0>: Duras, Maroczy, Schlechter; <6.0>: Rubinstein, Marshall; <5.5>: Spielmann, Teichmann; <5.0>: Perlis; <4.5>: Alapin, Mieses, Tartakower; <4.0>: Leonhardt; <3.5>: Berger, Johner, Suechting, Swiderski; <3.0>: Cohn, Salwe, Von Bardeleben; <0.5>: Reti Round 10 (Saturday, April 4): Spielmann 1/2 Leonhardt; Salwe 1 Tartakower; Reti 1/2 Suechting; Perlis 1 Mieses; Rubinstein 1 Duras; Johner 0 Schlechter; Alapin 1/2 Teichmann; Cohn 0 Berger; Marshall 1/2 Maroczy; Von Bardeleben 1/2 Swiderski STANDINGS: <8.0>: Schlechter; <7.5>: Maroczy; <7.0>: Duras, Rubinstein; <6.5>: Marshall; <6.0>: Perlis, Spielmann, Teichmann; <5.0>: Alapin; <4.5>: Berger, Leonhardt, Mieses, Tartakower; <4.0>: Salwe, Suechting, Swiderski; <3.5>: Johner, Von Bardeleben; <3.0>: Cohn; <1.0>: Reti Round 11 (Monday, April 6): Berger 1/2 Marshall; Teichmann 1 Cohn; Schlechter 1 Alapin; Duras 1 Johner; Mieses 1 Rubinstein; Suechting 0 Perlis; Tartakower 1 Reti; Leonhardt 1/2 Salwe; Swiderski 0 Spielmann; Maroczy 1 Von Bardeleben STANDINGS: <9.0>: Schlechter; <8.5>: Maroczy; <8.0>: Duras; <7.0>: Marshall, Perlis, Rubinstein, Spielmann, Teichmann; <5.5>: Mieses, Tartakower; <5.0>: Alapin, Berger, Leonhardt; <4.5>: Salwe; <4.0>: Suechting, Swiderski; <3.5>: Johner, Von Bardeleben; <3.0>: Cohn; <1.0>: Reti Round 12 (Tuesday, April 7): Salwe 0 Swiderski; Reti 1/2 Leonhardt; Perlis 0 Tartakower; Rubinstein 1/2 Suechting; Johner 0 Mieses; Alapin 0 Duras; Cohn 1/2 Schlechter; Marshall 0 Teichmann; Maroczy 0 Berger; Von Bardeleben 1/2 Spielmann STANDINGS: <9.5>: Schlechter; <9.0>: Duras; <8.5>: Maroczy; <8.0>: Teichmann; <7.5>: Rubinstein, Spielmann; <7.0>: Marshall, Perlis; <6.5>: Mieses, Tartakower; <6.0>: Berger; <5.5>: Leonhardt; <5.0>: Alapin, Swiderski; <4.5>: Salwe, Suechting; <4.0>: Von Bardeleben; <3.5>: Cohn, Johner; <1.5>: Reti Round 13 (Wednesday, April 8): Teichmann 1/2 Maroczy; Schlechter 1 Marshall; Duras 1 Cohn; Mieses 1 Alapin; Suechting 1/2 Johner; Tartakower 0 Rubinstein; Leonhardt 1/2 Perlis; Swiderski 1 Reti; Spielmann 0 Salwe; Berger 1/2 Von Bardeleben STANDINGS: <10.5>: Schlechter; <10.0>: Duras; <9.0>: Maroczy; <8.5>: Rubinstein, Teichmann; <7.5>: Mieses, Perlis, Spielmann; <7.0>: Marshall; <6.5>: Berger, Tartakower; <6.0>: Leonhardt, Swiderski; <5.5>: Salwe; <5.0>: Alapin, Suechting; <4.5>: Von Bardeleben; <4.0>: Johner; <3.5>: Cohn; <1.5>: Reti Round 14 (Friday, April 10): Reti 0 Spielmann; Perlis 0 Swiderski; Rubinstein 0 Leonhardt; Johner 0 Tartakower; Alapin 1 Suechting; Cohn 1 Mieses; Marshall 0 Duras; Maroczy 1/2 Schlechter; Berger 1/2 Teichmann; Von Bardeleben 1/2 Salwe STANDINGS: <11.0>: Duras, Schlechter; <9.5>: Maroczy; <9.0>: Teichmann; <8.5>: Rubinstein, Spielmann; <7.5>: Mieses, Perlis, Tartakower; <7.0>: Berger, Leonhardt, Marshall, Swiderski; <6.0>: Alapin, Salwe; <5.0>: Suechting, Von Bardeleben; <4.5>: Cohn; <4.0>: Johner; <1.5>: Reti Round 15 (Saturday, April 11): Schlechter 1 Berger; Duras 0 Maroczy; Mieses 0 Marshall; Suechting 1/2 Cohn; Tartakower 1/2 Alapin; Leonhardt 1 Johner; Swiderski 0 Rubinstein; Spielmann 1 Perlis; Salwe 1 Reti; Teichmann 1 Von Bardeleben STANDINGS: <12.0>: Schlechter; <11.0>: Duras; <10.5>: Maroczy; <10.0>: Teichmann; <9.5>: Rubinstein, Spielmann; <8.0>: Leonhardt, Marshall, Tartakower; <7.5>: Mieses, Perlis; <7.0>: Berger, Salwe, Swiderski; <6.5>: Alapin; <5.5>: Suechting; <5.0>: Cohn, Von Bardeleben; <4.0>: Johner; <1.5>: Reti Round 16 (Monday, April 13): Von Bardeleben 1 Reti; Perlis 1 Salwe; Rubinstein 1 Spielmann; Johner 1 Swiderski; Alapin 0 Leonhardt; Cohn 0 Tartakower; Marshall 1 Suechting; Maroczy 1 Mieses; Berger 0 Duras; Teichmann 1/2 Schlechter STANDNGS: <12.5>: Schlechter; <12.0>: Duras; <11.5>: Maroczy; <10.5>: Rubinstein, Teichmann; <9.5>: Spielmann; <9.0>: Leonhardt, Marshall, Tartakower; <8.5>: Perlis; <7.5>: Mieses; <7.0>: Berger, Salwe, Swiderski; <6.5>: Alapin; <6.0>: Von Bardeleben; <5.5>: Suechting; <5.0>: Cohn, Johner; <1.5>: Reti Round 17 (Tuesday, April 14): Schlechter 1/2 Von Bardeleben; Duras 1/2 Teichmann; Mieses 1 Berger; Suechting 0 Maroczy; Tartakower 1 Marshall; Leonhardt 0 Cohn; Swiderski 1 Alapin; Spielmann 0 Johner; Salwe 0 Rubinstein; Reti 0 Perlis STANDINGS: <13.0>: Schlechter; <12.5>: Duras, Maroczy; <11.5>: Rubinstein; <11.0>: Teichmann; <10.0>: Tartakower; <9.5>: Perlis, Spielmann; <9.0>: Leonhardt, Marshall; <8.5>: Mieses; <8.0>: Swiderski; <7.0>: Berger, Salwe; <6.5>: Alapin, Von Bardeleben; <6.0>: Cohn, Johner; <5.5>: Suechting; <1.5>: Reti Round 18 (Wednesday, April 15): Rubinstein 1 Reti; Johner 1/2 Salwe; Alapin 0 Spielmann; Cohn 0 Swiderski; Marshall 1/2 Leonhardt; Maroczy 1 Tartakower; Berger 0 Suechting; Teichmann 0 Mieses; Schlechter 1/2 Duras; Von Bardeleben 0 Perlis STANDINGS: <13.5>: Maroczy, Schlechter; <13.0>: Duras; <12.5>: Rubinstein; <11.0>: Teichmann; <10.5>: Perlis, Spielmann; <10.0>: Tartakower; <9.5>: Marshall, Mieses, Leonhardt; <9.0>: Swiderski; <7.5>: Salwe; <7.0>: Berger; <6.5>: Alapin, Johner, Suechting, Von Bardeleben; <6.0>: Cohn; <1.5>: Reti Round 19 (Friday, April 17): Mieses 1/2 Schlechter; Suechting 0 Teichmann; Tartakower 1 Berger; Leonhardt 1/2 Maroczy; Swiderski 1/2 Marshall; Spielmann 1 Cohn; Salwe 1 Alapin; Reti 0 Johner; Perlis 1/2 Rubinstein; Duras 1 Von Bardeleben STANDINGS: <14.0>: Duras, Maroczy, Schlechter; <13.0>: Rubinstein; <12.0>: Teichmann; <11.5>: Spielmann; <11.0>: Perlis, Tartakower; <10.0>: Leonhardt, Marshall, Mieses; <9.5>: Swiderski; <8.5>: Salwe; <7.5>: Johner; <7.0>: Berger; <6.5>: Alapin, Suechting, Von Bardeleben; <6.0>: Cohn; <1.5>: Reti Original collection: Game Collection: Vienna 1908, by User: Phony Benoni.  page 1 of 8; games 1-25 of 190  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. Maroczy vs Swiderski 1-0 20 1908 Vienna C49 Four Knights 2. Marshall vs Spielmann 0-1 42 1908 Vienna D32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch 3. Schlechter vs H Suechting 1-0 44 1908 Vienna C87 Ruy Lopez 4. Alapin vs Reti 1-0 63 1908 Vienna C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 5. Duras vs J Mieses ½-½ 57 1908 Vienna B01 Scandinavian 6. E Cohn vs Salwe 0-1 24 1908 Vienna C49 Four Knights 7. J N Berger vs Leonhardt   ½-½ 30 1908 Vienna D00 Queen's Pawn Game 8. Teichmann vs Tartakower   ½-½ 23 1908 Vienna D55 Queen's Gambit Declined 9. Rubinstein vs Von Bardeleben 1-0 47 1908 Vienna D05 Queen's Pawn Game 10. P F Johner vs J Perlis   ½-½ 43 1908 Vienna D10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav 11. Salwe vs Marshall 0-1 37 1908 Vienna C58 Two Knights 12. Tartakower vs Schlechter 0-1 28 1908 Vienna C68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange 13. Reti vs E Cohn   0-1 49 1908 Vienna C49 Four Knights 14. H Suechting vs Duras 0-1 31 1908 Vienna C91 Ruy Lopez, Closed 15. Swiderski vs J N Berger 1-0 30 1908 Vienna D02 Queen's Pawn Game 16. Rubinstein vs P F Johner 1-0 48 1908 Vienna D30 Queen's Gambit Declined 17. Von Bardeleben vs J Mieses   ½-½ 19 1908 Vienna B01 Scandinavian 18. J Perlis vs Alapin   ½-½ 23 1908 Vienna C01 French, Exchange 19. Leonhardt vs Teichmann   ½-½ 38 1908 Vienna C77 Ruy Lopez 20. Spielmann vs Maroczy   ½-½ 30 1908 Vienna C14 French, Classical 21. Maroczy vs Salwe 1-0 62 1908 Vienna C78 Ruy Lopez 22. Marshall vs Reti 1-0 31 1908 Vienna C49 Four Knights 23. Duras vs Tartakower   ½-½ 37 1908 Vienna B01 Scandinavian 24. Schlechter vs Leonhardt 1-0 41 1908 Vienna C63 Ruy Lopez, Schliemann Defense 25. J N Berger vs Spielmann   ½-½ 39 1908 Vienna D00 Queen's Pawn Game  page 1 of 8; games 1-25 of 190    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)   Apr-17-14    offramp: Réti was a 19-year-old but he was annihilated like a non-talented 12-year-old. Sixteen crushing rapid counterplayless losses and three dishonorable draws.... It makes you want to puke. Apr-17-14    keypusher: <offramp: Réti was a 19-year-old but he was annihilated like a non-talented 12-year-old. Sixteen crushing rapid counterplayless losses and three dishonorable draws.... It makes you want to puke.> If only the gormless twit had given up chess on the spot. Apr-17-14    Benzol: Sixteen losses would have been hard to bear. It's great that he didn't loose heart and just give up playing. Chess history would have been very different if he had. Jul-20-14    Karpova: Brilliancy Prizes: Jury: Hugo Fähndrich and Victor Tietz 1st Brilliancy Prize (300 Kronen): Rubinstein vs Duras, 1908 2nd Brilliancy Prize (200 Kronen): Salwe vs Marshall, 1908 Source: 'Wiener Schachzeitung', July-August 1908, p. 199 Jul-20-14    waustad: Does anybody know if they used some sort of tiebreaks or if they considered it a 3-way tie for first? Jul-21-14    Karpova: <waustad> In the final report, no tie-break system is mentioned. The prize money for the first three places was summated, then divided by three and shared among the winners. The prize money was: 1st-3rd: Duras, Maroczy and Schlechter received (4,000 + 3,500 + 3,000)/3 Kronen, i. e 3,500 Kronen each (there is a mistake as it says 400 Kronen, but this can't be correct). 4th: Rubinstein received 2,000 Kronen 5th: Teichmann received 1,200 Kronen 6th: Spielmann received 800 Kronen 7th and 8th: Perlis and Tartakower shared (600 + 400)/2 Kronen 9th and 10th: Leonhardt, Marshall and Mieses shared 600 Kronen. The rest got a consolation prize of 100 Kronen each. Source: 'Wiener Schachzeitung', March-April 1908, p. 66 Feb-06-16    TheFocus: Two brilliancy prizes were donated by Baron Albert de Rothschild. The first prize of 300 crowns was awarded to Rubinstein for his victory over Duras; and the second prize of 200 crowns was awarded to Marshall for his victoty over Mieses. 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