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Jun-27-24
 | | offramp:
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Jun-28-24
 | | Atterdag: Keep singing, <offramp>! :-) Great line-up of strong masters. After the Candidates I find it interesting to observe, how the former candidates will do against those who didn't manage to get into the lot. One could easily have seen Giri, MVL, So and Abdusattorov as candidates. |
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Jun-28-24
 | | keithbc: think that So may draw ALL his games here. |
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Jun-29-24
 | | Atterdag: The score table doesn't reflect the 3rd round draw between Pragg and Gukesh. |
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Jul-02-24
 | | Atterdag: The last 47 moves in the Deac-Nepo game were superfluous. Apparently Nepo wanted to test Deac's basic skills in a K/R/N vs. K/R setup. That aside we now have 5 decided games out of 25. Thrilling, right? |
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Jul-02-24 | | virginmind: Yeah, not quite classy from Nepo. Well, he saw Deac was also very low on time... |
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Jul-02-24 | | Olavi: Korchnoi played it for 34 moves vs. Hübner in 1980, but that was a match, then it makes sense. It's hard to play for a win with White the next day. Korchnoi vs Huebner, 1980 |
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Jul-02-24
 | | Atterdag: Great win today by Firouzja. So didn't play the old Sämisch well and got a cramped position on the queen side. Firouzja OTOH played boldly and cautiously and outmanoeuvered his opponent completely. |
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Jul-02-24
 | | PawnSac: ok, so the round 7 pairings are:
Gukesh v Caruana
Giri v MVL
So v Abdusattorov
Deac v Firouzja
Nepo v Pragg
my very subjective suspicions are wins for Caruana and Firouzja, the rest draws. but time will tell. If Fabi wins rd7 he's in a good position to win the event. |
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Jul-03-24
 | | Atterdag: After 7 rounds: 83% games drawn. Fascinating! |
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Jul-03-24 | | Olavi: So - Abdusattorov today is one of the games contributing to that percentage; it's a veritable journey to the centre of the earth, mindblowing - simply fascinating. |
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Jul-03-24
 | | PawnSac: Round 7 = 5 draws! Fabi still with half point lead. < Round 8 pairings > Caruana v Pragg
Firouzja v Nepo
Abdusattorov v Deac
MVL v So
Gukesh v Giri |
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Jul-04-24
 | | offramp: I think these tournaments will soon be redundant. The time control is too slow. "90m:30m+30spm" makes the games excruciatingly boring and no players can ever get in to time trouble. Rapid games are much more interesting.
Future WC matches should be 2 rapid games a day, 24 games played over a fortnight. |
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Jul-04-24
 | | HeMateMe: what ever happened to Melody Amber blindfold chess? |
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Jul-04-24 | | Olavi: <HeMateMe> The sponsor van Oosterom died in 2016, it was a private tournament. Although the tournament stopped in 2011 after the 20th edition. |
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Jul-04-24 | | metatron2: <Atterdag: After 7 rounds: 83% games drawn. Fascinating!> Indeed..
When Carlsen and Nakamura are not playing in those super tournaments, its not only significantly reduces public interest in them, but also significantly increases the chance to get into a draw fest, as we can see here |
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Jul-04-24
 | | PawnSac: OK last round (9)
Giri v Caruana
So v Gukesh
Deac v MVL
Nepo v Abdusattorov
Pragg v Firouzja |
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Jul-04-24 | | pjw: If this isn't the most drawing-est tournament ever. Like Offramp said, too much time. I've liked the tournaments with the 15 minute and 45 minute time controls the most. Those 3 minute games end up getting too sloppy at the end, so a little more time than that to play some solid chess. |
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Jul-04-24
 | | PawnSac: < pjw: >
do you mean with no increment? like..
40 moves in 45min with 15min sudden death?
that would be a good time. |
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Jul-04-24 | | EvanTheTerrible: I don't even bother watching these events anymore. I'm glad more juniors are getting their shot, but until they entirely replace the old guys, it's just not interesting for me. |
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Jul-04-24 | | goodevans: The World Championship Candidates (2024) proved there's nothing wrong with classical time controls for producing thrilling chess. Gotta be the best tournament of the year (decade? century?). No increments until after the time control is the key. Increments from move 1 is what ruins things. Oh, and it also proved a mix of young stars and old guard is also a good recipe. |
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Jul-05-24 | | pjw: Pawnsac - I've seen tournaments with the 45 minute time and the increments, and tournaments with 15 minutes. Wish I could remember which tournaments they were. A small time increment is ok, don't like to see a game lost on time. |
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Jul-05-24
 | | Atterdag: <metatron2> Agree with your reasonings. The players here seem too comfortable in their seats - they need the two "bad boys" you mention to stir things up. |
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Jul-05-24
 | | Troller: Definitely the presence of Carlsen changes things, as a higher %-score is then needed to win. He also plays for wins in most games. Not so sure about Naka in that regard; when he was younger, he played very double-edged chess but that is not my impression anymore. He plays very little classical of course. <goodevans>'s point about increments is also interesting. The Candidates was a fantastic tournament spectator-wise, with a field not much different from here. And then of course sometimes players in a tournament seem to collectively decide to play safe chess, whereas other tournaments develop differently, there are many examples of this. Certain players seem to sway in one or the other direction (think Andersson/Larsen) but it is not easy to guarantee a fightinng tournament. |
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Jul-05-24
 | | offramp: The last decisive game in this tournament was on the 2nd of July. Can you remember that? |
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