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| Aug-07-06 | | ChessVip: someone know what are doing this retired GM? |
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| May-26-07 | | whiteshark: Happy Birthday !!
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His best result was in the FIDE World Chess Championship 1996. He qualified for the Candidates, and won his first two matches against Alexander Khalifman and Jan Timman, to reach the final 4. He then lost at the semi-final stage to Gata Kamsky. After 2002, he <ceased> to play in chess tournaments. |
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| May-26-07 | | suenteus po 147: Wasn't this guy Shirov's trainer at one point? |
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May-26-07
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <ChessVip: someone know what are doing this retired GM?> I was curious, too, but could not find anything. There is a Wikipedia entry for Salov, which reads in full as follows" "Valery Salov (born May 26, 1964) is a Russian chess grandmaster. "Awarded the International Master title in 1984 and the Grandmaster title in 1986 he was World Under-16 Champion in 1980 and European Junior Champion in 1983-84. He finished 1st= with Alexander Beliavsky in the 1987 USSR Championship but lost the play-off match (+0, =2, -2) gaining the Silver Medal. At the 1988 USSR Championship he finished 3rd= with Artur Yusupov, behind Anatoli Karpov and Garry Kasparov. "Salov qualified twice for the Candidates Tournament for the World Chess Championship. In 1988, he reached round of 16, but was defeated in his first match by Jan Timman (+0, =5, -1). "His best result was in the FIDE World Chess Championship 1996. He qualified for the Candidates, and won his first two matches against Alexander Khalifman and Jan Timman, to reach the final 4. He then lost at the semi-final stage to Gata Kamsky. "After 2002, he ceased to play in chess tournaments." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery...
The link posted by <acirce> reflects disturbingly on his state of mind. |
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Jun-15-07
 | | Troller: I remember a reading a remark from the early nineties, where he was dismissed as a WC candidate for what was seemingly an obvious reason. I did not know the reason and assumed he simply had decided not to participate in the WC cycle, like Andersson. Salov won an interzonal in 1987, but did not play in 1990, which is somewhat strange. Does anyone know about this? Maybe his conflict with Kasparov would explain it, as he played again after Kasparov had left FIDE. |
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Jun-15-07
 | | Open Defence: <The indians heat, food and water anihilated Salov> somehow it doesn't annihilate 1 billion Indians.. geez.. these guys are given the red carpet when they come here.. i bet they get it better here than Elista... |
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| Jun-15-07 | | Karpova: <Open Defence: <The indians heat, food and water anihilated Salov> somehow it doesn't annihilate 1 billion Indians.. geez..>
But they are used to it.
And it's not about surviving (which he obviously did) but playing chess on the highest level. |
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| Jun-15-07 | | chenturini: What is the question with Salov? All years millions of travelers have stomach and intestinal diseases by change of food, water and clime by one, two, three and many days. Is obvius he had a very bad days in very important match, disastrous and fatal. |
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Jun-15-07
| | Open Defence: <Karpova> you forgot this bit <these guys are given the red carpet when they come here> and they really are.. our hotels can compare with the Michelin 7 star..with the 7 star grading) and many of these guys get the royal treatment.. if anything maybe the luxury softened his head... |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Karpova: <Open Defence>
I was not talking about maltreatment but the changing weather conditions, the food , etc..
So it's not about the food being bad or not tasty or anything like this but unusual compared to what may be served in Verkhoyansk (i.e.).
Some people are more sensible when it comes to changing conditions. And we are talking about high level chess where every bit can influence you negatively. |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: <Karpova> I am sure most of where he was would have been air conditioned.. further he would have had ample options for western style food (given his stay in Spain I think this would not have been very different from what he was used to) i dont think the conditions would have been so alien unless he went sight seeing and sampled the local fare... in any case Russian Masters have been playing in the Goodricke for years and have done very very well.. |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Karpova: <Open Defence>
I quote the part of <Manuel Garcia>'s post you didn't quote: <Kamsky was a sportsman while Salov is weak phisically: when he was a baby he was expected to die soon. Obviously he did not, but his organism is very sensible.>Nobody's critizing Indian food, hospitality or anything else. It's about the claim that Valery Salov's fragile health was partly responsible for his loss. So even if all the other Russian Grandmasters had and have no problem playing in India this doesn't have any significance for this special case. |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: <Nobody's critizing Indian food, hospitality or anything else.> Thats not the way I see that post... |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: <<Kamsky was a sportsman while Salov is weak phisically> > you dont need to be a sportsman to flourish in India.. that reference could be made with a lot of comparisons without the <Indians heat and food annihilated> bit e.g. Salov might have had less stamina.. what this has to do with the heat in India ? I'm not sure as I have said before I doubt this was even a remote factor.. |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Karpova: Do you rule out the possibility that drastically changing conditions can affect someone with fragile health in such a way that he is not able to play his best chess? |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: < Karpova: Do you rule out the possibility that drastically changing conditions can affect someone with fragile health in such a way that he is not able to play his best chess? > No but I would like to say that I doubt the conditions were drastically different on account of the Indian heat or food both of which would have been managed by the facilities provided... |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Karpova: Staying in his hotel room all day with the air conditioner switched on and just eating Hamburgers from MacDonald's... |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: is probably what he would have done in Elista.. in India he would have got the red carpet.. |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Karpova: There's still no need to defend India's honour as nobody's questioning it. |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: <Karpova> thats not the way i saw it.. |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: btw I also read an interview with Xie Jun where she said she fell ill in Sanghi Nagar.. but she didnt blame the conditions... one can fall ill anywhere... Salov may well have fallen ill or been out of sorts.. quite probable and understandable.. but to blame the Indian conditions I believe is uncalled for.. |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Valgua: Well "Open Defence", you can see it the way you wish but no-one offended India. I would not be offended if someone said this about Italy (my country). I could understand if a swedish player had some difficulties playing in Florence in August (40 C° and very humid climate). It takes the strength out of you and air conditioning, while it helps, is not a true solution. I work at University with full AC all day and still I suffer a lot during summer. |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Valgua: Manuel Garcia wrote <For example, his relations with the old Botvinnik were very bad. During the Moscow olimpiad in 1994 Botvinnik was not allowed to visit the event, because Kasparov tell the organizer not to let him come in!> I'm not a Kasparov fan but this seems unfounded. Kasparov has always expressed warm feelings for Botvinnik. What's your source? Btw, as far as I know the italian opening is 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc5 Bc4 4. c3 (with the idea of pushing the pawn in d4) while Gioco Piano is 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc5 Bc4 4. d3 (and the eventual d4 push is postponed). |
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Jun-16-07
| | Open Defence: <I could understand if a swedish player had some difficulties playing in Florence in August (40 C° and very humid climate). It takes the strength out of you and air conditioning, while it helps, is not a true solution. I work at University with full AC all day and still I suffer a lot during summer. > I think you haven't quite understood what I was saying.. it might well have been that Salov felt out of sorts during his visit to India.. that is Salov's inability to adjust to the conditions rather than the "Indian" heat.. you don't here Vishy complaining about the European cold do you ? geez... |
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| Jun-16-07 | | Valgua: <I think you haven't quite understood what I was saying.. it might well have been that Salov felt out of sorts during his visit to India.. that is Salov's inability to adjust to the conditions rather than the "Indian" heat..> It *might* have been Salov's physical conditions combined with India's weather. We won't ever know for sure. The point is the nobody offended India. <you don't here Vishy complaining about the European cold do you ?> As an Italian I know very well that it's much easier to get used to a cold climate than to hot and humid one. I feel much better when I travel to northern Europe in summer and cold winters have zero impact on working capabilities. You simply put on you warm clothes. |
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