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May-13-04 | | iron maiden: For Reshevsky, I don't think the issue was experience; he was just stronger in match play than in tournaments, which is why he was a bit of a disappointment in 1948. |
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May-14-04 | | ruylopez900: Iron maiden. Ahh, a bit like Bent Larsen, winner of several tournaments, even though he got thrashed in Denver. |
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May-14-04 | | iron maiden: Well, the reverse of Larsen, basically. If we could have somehow transplanted Larsen's tournament play into Reshevsky, we'd have a World Champion for sure. |
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May-14-04 | | ruylopez900: <iron maiden> Right, same idea that they were a bit 1-D, but different aspects at which they excelled. |
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May-14-04 | | ancienregime: Oh, I think we have to put Reshevsky's 1948 disappointment in perspective. He probably knew he was only heading for a slight positive score at best; remember that America had been thrashed in the 1946 radio match with the USSR when everyone expected the Olympiad-winning-monster to do otherwise. |
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May-15-04
 | | Gypsy: <ruylopez900: <Chessical> Cool, but wasn't he already experienced enough? (having played 30 years)> There is a maxim in sports: "you can only rise certain ammount over your competition". Thus, when Soviets realized that their chess jumped forward most during the WWII induced chess isolation, they figured Reshevsky was probably temporarily not at the top level. He just had not have enough opportunity to play enough of the new-level oponents.... But Soviets also knew Reshevsky had the tallent to eventually catch up, given quality oponents and time. |
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May-15-04 | | iron maiden: Granted, Botvinnik was probably the clear favorite to win the WC tournament, but I'm sure Reshevsky was expected to give him a run for his money. |
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May-15-04 | | WhoKeres: If you look at Reshevsky's games from the 1948 World Championship Match Tournament I think it's clear that Reshevsky was somewhat unlucky. He had the better of the five games with Botvinnik, but blundered one dominating white position away in time trouble. Keres only beat him in a game where Keres blundered a pawn in the opening and swindled Sammy after the adjournment. Reshevsky totally dominated Euwe. Only Smyslov really consistently outplayed Reshevsky in my opinion. Smyslov was a very difficult opponent for Reshevsky throughout the remainder of his career. From 1948 on, Reshevsky had a plus score against Botvinnik and Keres. If Reshevsky had captured the title in 1948 he may have held it for a while because he was a terrific match player. |
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May-15-04 | | ruylopez900: How long was the 1948 WC tournament? It was my impression that it was a DRR. |
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May-15-04 | | Resignation Trap: The 1948 World Championship was a quintuple round robin.
http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/48$... |
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May-17-04 | | ruylopez900: Does anyone think it would be interesting to unify the chess world like this? Kasparov, Anand, Ponomariov, Leko, Kramnik and Shirov playing a quintuple round robin. Winner takes all. =D It would take a while, but I doubt the players would want to draw every game, especially in the last few cycles where you gotta catch up or pull into a real lead (not just 1/2 pt on second place!) |
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May-17-04 | | Mr.Rooks: "Does anyone think it would be interesting to unify the chess world like this?" I'd like them to bring back something
like St.Petersburg 1914 or Moscow
1936 double round tournament with
the top ten Players in the world
getting there shot I wouldn't like
any event where the challenger has
to go through hell only to face a
rested Kasparov who eat the winner. |
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May-17-04 | | Mr.Rooks: Can you imagine someone else winning
the title like Morozevitch in such
a tournament :)
Yes folks let's bring back fighting
Chess. |
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May-17-04 | | ruylopez900: <Mr.Rooks> That's the beauty of the QuinRR, you have to prove your the best of a bunch of players, not just one piddly player to be champion. (or one piddly little player at a time =D). I like the quintuple version simply because it is more in depth and more likely to yield a true winner, but a DRR is also acceptable. |
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Jul-10-04 | | refutor: i'm trying my best to muddle through reshevsky's "the art of positional play" and the notation errors by burt hoichberg are absolutely horrifying. Rh4s instead of Ra4s, Bf8s instead of Bc8s etc. etc. etc. that's understandable when translating from descriptive to algebraic but at least play the game out over a board while you're translating...sheesh! |
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Jul-16-04 | | Lawrence: Spirited defence of Reshevsky by John Watson in his critique of Garry K.'s OMGP "we find that Reshevsky was in the top 10 for no less than 24 years. He ended the year in ranked 1st in the world twice, was ranked 2nd three times, was 3rd-highest ranked in the world in 11 different years, and held 4th place five times! He spent 13 years at 2700 or above. Nor can his record be denigrated as a product of less important tournaments. In the second half of the 1930s alone (the period covered most by the two Predecessors volumes put together), Reshevsky took clear first in Margate 1935 ahead of Capablanca, won strong U.S. Championships in 1936 and 1938 (and of course many of them later), finished equal 3rd in the famous Nottingham 1936 tournament, shared first place at Kemeri 1937, and won Hastings 1937-8." If the last 3 paragraphs of the article are correct, Raymond Keene has recently managed to get Garry to include Reshevsky in a forthcoming volume of OMGP. Thanks to <acirce> for the link on the Kasparov page. |
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Jul-16-04 | | Lawrence: John Watson's article is at http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/jwa... |
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Jul-31-04 | | madlydeeply: According to Silman's Bio of Pal Benko, (quoted Benko), Reshevsky had a horrible memory and never studied openings. He couldn't remember anything, and that is why he took so much time in the opening. If that is true, it is a strike against the "unlucky Reshevsky" theory. Of course he was in perpetual time trouble. And there must be a limit to achievement if one can't prepare for a match. If this is true, the bad memory, then it is a miracle that Reshevsky played at the highest level at all. There was a little story in the book, someone showed Reshevsky a game, and Reshevsky said that the players "weren't very good" and the game was uninteresting...it was one of Reshevsky's own games! Forgotten! Apparently Reshevsky, a little guy, attacked Najdorf once, a big guy, and Najdorf ran away. HA! |
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Aug-20-04 | | iron maiden: Reshevsky defeated seven twentieth-century World Champions at least once in tournament play: Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine, Euwe, Botvinnik, Smyslov, and Fischer. That has to be a record. |
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Aug-20-04
 | | Benzol: <iron maiden> Reshevsky's record is good but Keres might have him beat by one World champion.
He has victories against Aleykhin, Botvinnik, Euwe, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky and Fischer. :) |
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Aug-20-04 | | henrilin: But then Kortschnoj has the same record as Keres. He also beated as many as 8 WC-s. Botvinnik, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer, Karpov and Kasparov. I think Geller also beated 8 World champions; Euwe, Botvinnik, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer and Karpov. Is it perhaps Keres, Kortschnoi and Geller who share the record of beating World Champions without ever being WC-s (sorry Kortschnoi) themselves? And by the way - Has any of the WC-s beated more than 7 other WC-s? |
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Aug-20-04 | | iron maiden: <Benzol> and <henrilin> Thanks, I completely forgot about Korchnoi and Keres for some reason, and I didn't know that Geller ever beat Karpov. <Has any of the WC-s beated more than 7 other WC-s?> No, so it's Korchnoi, Keres and Geller who appear to be the overall record-holders. But there's one record I think Reshevsky does hold. He played eleven WC's during his professional career: Lasker, Capablanca, Euwe, Alekhine, Botvinnik, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer and Karpov. |
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Aug-20-04
 | | Chessical: <Ironmaiden> Unfortunately if the disintegration of world championship continues, it will soon be possible to play eleven "world champions" in a single tournament. |
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Aug-20-04
 | | Joshka: <Chessical> LOLOL....oh...your so right!!:-) |
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Aug-23-04
 | | Benzol: <henrilin> <iron maiden> Botvinnik has victories over Lasker, Capablanca, Alyekhin, Euwe, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian and Spassky. That's eight by my count so I guess he was a great player who was born at the right historical moment. |
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