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Apr-27-16
 | | HeMateMe: I wonder if she understands that the word "Nazi" still makes people's skin crawl? If I were her, I would spell it "Nasi," just to make it easier for folks. Her choice in life. The USSR suffered 20 million dead in WWII, some of them were Georgian conscripts forced into the poorly led Red Army that was canon fodder for the first18 months of the war. I'm surprised that people in Georgia have never complained about it, but perhaps Nazi is a common name in Georgia, and they don't give it a second thought? |
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Apr-27-16
 | | FSR: <HMM> Since she's living in the U.S., I'm sure that she's learned all too well the effect that the word has on Americans. |
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Apr-27-16 | | zanzibar: What about Naz? I bet that's really the same name somewhere along the line. Plenty of hits looking that up. |
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Apr-27-16 | | Fluffy: When I first saw her name it caught my attention, but it doesn't bother me because I understand its origin. Now I don't even think about it when I see it. This is going to sound a little discouraging, but if you ask the next 100 people you see under age 30 to tell you what the word Nazi means to them, I bet not many of them could tell you very much. She might not be getting much grief about it at all. Immediately after WWII it would be have been a bigger deal, but these days the unusual seems to be the new norm with people naming their kids after movie and TV vampires and werewolves or LotR characters, etc. Unless it's actually causing her problems I think she should keep it. |
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Apr-27-16 | | SimonWebbsTiger: Nazi's name isn't even pronounced like the Hitler party. The z sounds more like the -age in "mirage." |
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Apr-27-16 | | Fluffy: <SimonWebbsTiger> That's a main point. Since it's pronounced differently, people who hear it wouldn't draw a connection anyway. Only people who saw it AND who know anything about WWII might take notice. A random bank teller or DMV clerk maybe is all. I certainly haven't heard of any noise in the chess world about it. Everyone seems focused on her games and championship victory. Speaking of which, one commentator mentioned that this is the first USA women's champion in a decade that isn't named either Irina or Anna. Was kind of funny, I hadn't thought of it that way. |
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Apr-27-16
 | | alexmagnus: The actual sound is actually like normal English Z, not that weird Zh sound heard on the commentary of the recent ACh broadcast. |
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Jul-20-16
 | | Sally Simpson: The picture above was taken from the game.
P Simacek vs N Paikidze, 2010
played in round 8 of the 2010 Wroclaw Chess Festival White has just played 6.g3.
 click for larger viewNazi Paikidze played 6...Nd7.
(but look, someone has slipped her a note about the possibility of playing a7....) Paikidze finished 5th equal from a field of 77 players. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | HeMateMe: nice
<https://cdn.chess24.com/xfI6Tl1KTli...> can one fit a cell phone in there? Interesting design. |
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Sep-29-16 | | Conrad93: FIDE is run by a bunch of morons...
Sponsoring a Women's Chess Championship in Iran (a country notorious for abhorrent treatment of women and homosexuals) is absolutely stupid, and absolutely dangerous to the livelihood of the players. Don't give me "When in Rome do as the Romans" crap. They can arrest you for not wearing a hijab. Again, what a joke... |
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Oct-01-16
 | | Richard Taylor: Well is Nazi a Nazi?
I once saw, a local supermarket, a young woman (Indian) at the checkout whose name tag said: "Swastika" which I supposed was a fairly typical Nazi, ooops! I meant Indian name....but she probably had no knowledge of the 2nd WW unless she studied history or something. Re forgetting things, I wish over here they'd stop all this crap about the ANZACS in the horrific balls up (one of Churchill's brainwaves) in the greater horror of WWI... But indeed, a lot of people under 30 probably don't know or care much about WWII. Who remembers the Crimean War and who fought in it (Tolstoy did for a start in Sebastopol, it was horrific, he writes about it in stories of the Caucusus, they are very good in fact: but which nations? Who wrote the Charge of the Light Brigade and what was it all about? (Into the valley of death road the brave five hundred, canons to right of them, canons to left of them, stormed at with shot and shell...rousing but not one of Tennysons's most celebrated works)...And what famous nurse? And who wrote about her? What modern movie featured the man who wrote about her and others of her time?) Boer war? Who was Kitchener? Did he want to send 40,000 men women and children to the West Indies as slaves? And who protested this proposal? When was the US-Mexican War? (I remember some of these dates as I relate them to my birthday)...Or the Balkan war of 1912 (from memory it was as it preceded WWI)? The Japanese-Russian war and who won (1906 or sometime near then)? Or the Peloponnesian war, and who won? And so on...? Ironically it was Kipling the Imperialist who protested against Tennyson's poem and the politics around the "error" (was it an error) or misunderstanding...the order was "don't charge"...and he supported the veterans of the Crimean War who were not supported by the British Govt., or not enough: it was he who was a great supporter of WWI and the "East is east, West is West, and never the twain shall meeet" man. |
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Oct-01-16
 | | Richard Taylor: Re the boycott. I support it but I can see the other side. I think those women who are refusing to go are acting in their own conscience and beliefs. And I understand their feelings. Some women will think otherwise and go to experience what it is like there (even in a small way) and what it is like to wear a hijab. It is all not so clear. However, we have to be wary. The outside 'attacks' on Iran ignore that we in the West are in glass houses. A long list of nations could be comiled for boycott. The other side, that women in Iran might benefit from seeing women there... In fact, if women had courage, and believed in their cause, they would go, and refuse to wear the Hajib "en masse" so to speak. That would show that sufficient were opposed to it. Prima facie it is a pretty crazy law the Moslems have... That said, I understand that they have strong religious views and traditions. They are probably beginning to change...soon they'll be able to participate in sex movies like the liberated US women and men. That will be progress? Perhaps. They will be free? To do what, look sexy etc if they are? The US bombed Iraq and other places and Sec. Clinton was keen on getting tough on Iran, but the US meanwhile keep relations with Saudi Arabia, India and Pakistan: all nations that are "violating" freedoms all the time...but as one casts one's jaundiced eye around this sad globe, it is hard to find anyone so clear of sin he should be allowed to casteth the initial stone... |
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Oct-01-16
 | | Richard Taylor: < Sally Simpson: The picture above was taken from the game.
P Simacek vs N Paikidze, 2010
played in round 8 of the 2010 Wroclaw Chess Festival White has just played 6.g3.
click for larger view
Nazi Paikidze played 6...Nd7.
(but look, someone has slipped her a note about the possibility of playing a7....) Paikidze finished 5th equal from a field of 77 players> I play this opening a lot esp. in Blitz, looking forward to the line (well there are some good traps if Black doesn't know them). At one stage Fischer used this line as White. A good alternative is to head for the Panov-BOtvinnik. Black here I think has played about the best line for Black. That line was the same when Fischer played Petrosian (twice) and in one is a great game in his book 40 Memorable Games when they both got 2 Queens! It was a draw. In the other I think Fischer lost. He didn't handle playing against the Caro or the French very well (or as well as against other openings). |
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Oct-02-16 | | zanzibar: "US chess champion: I'd rather sacrifice my career than be forced to wear a hijab" http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/0... Normally, I don't expect Fox to have much chess coverage... |
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Oct-03-16
 | | HeMateMe: the comments under the above news article were very favorable towards Nasi and women in general, in Iran. Is she really "highest rated in the USA"? I thought Krush and Anna Z were both rated higher, but edged out for this years championship. |
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Oct-04-16 | | Conrad93: I did Nazi that coming, to be honest. |
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Oct-05-16 | | zanzibar: <HMM> Right, she's not #1 in the US, either according to FIDE or USCF... FIDE: https://ratings.fide.com/topfed.pht... USCF: http://www.uschess.org/component/op... PS - <Conrad93> anymore of that would be naziating. |
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Oct-05-16 | | zanzibar: BTW- the issue is gaining more traction:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middl... . |
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Oct-05-16 | | Granny O Doul: It's too much to expect non-chess media to distinguish between "highest-rated" and "champion". I remember hearing Kasparov, back in '94, introduced as "world #1". I thought it lacked the gravitas of "World Champion", but maybe that's the royalist deep inside of me. |
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Oct-06-16
 | | HeMateMe: Maybe the people typing up this stuff didn't go to college, journalism school. They might be some part time, per diem hacks who just crank out the stuff fast and get paid per web pages affected. I don't know how a movie or TV episode director can have a scene involving chess and not bring just one (1) chess player/adviser on the set to prevent errors. I suppose the same thing happens in disciplines like the classical music world. That field is probably rife with errors when it is presented in movies and television but most people aren't aware of the mistakes made. |
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Oct-06-16
 | | Sally Simpson: Nazí Paikidze-Barnes has started an online petition. "We demand that FIDE reconsider its decision to award the Women’s World Chess Championship to Iran. In its handbook, FIDE explicitly states its guiding moral principles and one of them is that the organization “rejects discriminatory treatment for national, political, racial, social or religious reasons or on account of sex.” (F.01(1)(2)).
Yet, by awarding the Championship to Iran, it is breaking that pledge to its members and subjecting them to discrimination on all fronts." At the time of writing the petition is 698 short of 5,000. https://www.change.org/p/stop-women... |
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Oct-06-16 | | diceman: <zanzibar:
Normally, I don't expect Fox to have much chess coverage...> Doubtful you'll get a game score. :) |
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Oct-06-16 | | cunctatorg: A smart move from Nazi's part but no Women's World Chess Championship is considered a really discriminatory treatment of human beings on account of sex, either the hosting country is USA, UK, France, Russia, Turkey, Greece, Georgia or Iran... Unless we do consider every Women's WCC to be a really discriminatory treatment of human beings on account of their very sex!!... That could be the case fifty years ago (in fact nobody had considered that angle of view back then...) but certainly it's not the case at the era of Judit Polgar or Hou Yifan... A smart move from Nazi's part but not for the sake of women or even women in muslim countries; a smart move from Nazi's part for the sake of Nazi herself and also for the sake of the erection of world-wide walls in the name of human fraternity and of human rights!!... |
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Oct-07-16 | | zanzibar: <<diceman> zanzibar:
Normally, I don't expect Fox to have much chess coverage...> Doubtful you'll get a game score. :)>
Maybe now, with Ailes gone, things might change? Look like Ailes ended up in the right place. |
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Oct-08-16 | | starry2013: Was there this protest when they did a grand prix event in Iran? |
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