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Nov-02-09
 | | al wazir: Is this the player who became known as "Zhadubovich" ("Jadoubovich") after he tried to take back a move in a match? |
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| Nov-02-09 | | returnoftheking: I heard that story, but don't know the details.
It is in http://www.chessville.com/reviews/B... apparently so maybe you should ask mr. Schiller (not that he is reliable)<Looking at Chessmetrics I was unaware he was near the top so long...>
Considering his (supposed) lack of ambition and professionalism it is quite surprising. But he was considered wch material in the 70's, right? |
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| Nov-02-09 | | parisattack: <<Looking at Chessmetrics I was unaware he was near the top so long...> Considering his (supposed) lack of ambition and professionalism it is quite surprising. But he was considered wch material in the 70's, right?> My recollection of his hayday was the mid/late 1970s. I'm also surprised he wasn't in the Top 5 at least once or twice - he was indeed considered WCH material for a time. I'd make him high 2700s at his peak vis-a-vis today's ratings. I honestly don't think he ever hit his full potential. He was known as a violent attacker, ala Tal, but to my mind there were more positional flavors into the mix of his style. Some very deep and creative things going on in many of his best games. No books on him in English I know about - would be a market for same, his name recognition is still strong. |
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| Nov-02-09 | | returnoftheking: Yes, I'd buy a game collection and bio without thought. Also thought he has been rated no 3 in the world once. But it doesn't matter, his great games are way more important. |
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| Nov-02-09 | | parisattack: The closest book would probably be Yugoslav Chess Triumphs by Trifunovic, et al. I don't have it handy but I *think* it had a section on Ljubo. |
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Nov-02-09
 | | Eggman: About Ljubojevic's ranking (Elo) - here are some highlights: 1975-1978, 10-12th
1979-1982, 15th-23rd
1983-1984, 3-4th (peak)
1985-1986, 10-15th
1987, 6th
1988, 15th
1989, 30-40th
Jan 1990, 10-11th
July 1990-Present, Out of top 30
Keep in mind even at his brief peak he was still about 65 points below world #1 Karpov, so this was not a player who ever threatened to be #1. |
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Nov-03-09
 | | tpstar: "J'adoubovic" = Milan Matulovic |
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| Mar-02-10 | | VladimirOo: Ljubojevic, Stein, Nezhmetdinov: so much creative players that never had the chance to fight for Candidates, what a loss for chess... (Kasparov himself in My Great Pred. argues it for Stein mainly) |
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| Mar-02-10 | | Spell Binder: <Vlad> I agree with your statement. Stein and Nezh form part of my other influences in chess. Their games have a different art, a different class. |
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| May-09-10 | | suenteus po 147: Here's a tournament collection won by Ljubojevic: Game Collection: Reggio Emilia 1990/91 II |
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| Jul-15-10 | | MaxxLange: In conversation with a chess friend recently, I brought up Smyslov's death, and he said "That was the last of the 'Fischer generation'" I told him: NO! Ljubojevic is still with us. |
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| Jul-30-10 | | reychong: It was Milan Matulovic who took back a move in his game against Istvan Bilek Round 9 1967 Sousse Izt. I think he's also being called as "Patulovic" for his drawing tendencies |
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| Jul-30-10 | | Shams: <I think he's also being called as "Patulovic" for his drawing tendencies> Maybe that's a translation of the pejorative that I've heard, "J'adoub-ovic". |
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| Aug-17-10 | | miguelito: ljubo is back , he is playing like 2600 . |
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| Sep-12-10 | | brankat: <MaxxLange> Although I haven't been checking obituaries lately, I believe that Portisch, Korchnoi, Karpov. Benko, Olafssonn, Gligoric ... are still around. Fortunately so. |
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| Sep-12-10 | | brankat: <reychong> <Shams> Rarely in his career was Matulovic showing "drawing tendencies". On the contrary, he liked sharp, tactically rich types of positions. The nickname "J'adub-ovic" is a South Slavic form of a last name, derived (in this case) from the French "J'adoub". When in the above mentioned game against I.Bilek, Matulovic took back a move, he said: "J'adoub". :-) "Patulovic", on the other hand is a misunderstanding. It's root "Pat" means "stalemate" in Serbo-Croatian language, the predominant language in Matulovic's homeland, former Yugoslavia. In English, literally translated it would be: "a stalemater" :-) |
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| Sep-12-10 | | dakgootje: <It's root "Pat" means "stalemate" in Serbo-Croatian language> There was a clay-motion (?) series for kids on television when I was young [yes, like that is long ago.. ;) ] about two neighbors called Pat and Mat. I think the series was originally Czech - so would this happen to mean 'stalemate' and 'mate'? Actually, on second though, pat and mat are the Dutch words as well for stalemate and mate -- guess I never realized it because here the series is called 'neighbor and neighbor'. |
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| Sep-13-10 | | brankat: <dakgootje> Very perceptive! Yes, "Mat" does mean "mate", the extended English language version being "checkmate". Originally, the expression comes from the old Persian "Shah Mat", meaning literally: "the King is dead". The 19th century (and earlier) European masters were in a habit of announcing the "Mate", which. of course, happens with the last Check that then leaves the King no escape. So, the routine was to make the move while saying: "Check, Mate", two words. This custom has been out of the tournament practice for at least a hundred years, but the term, "Checkmate" (now 1 word) remains. |
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| Nov-02-10 | | wordfunph: Bukic-Ljubojevic 1978 Bugojno Super Tournament: Bukic had two more minutes and looked at both scoresheets that contained 40 moves each. By all means everything was okay. His opponent moved away from the table but came back when Bukic's time was over. Ljubojevic looked at the sheet and informed Bukic that they had not played the necessary 40 moves due to his mistake --- he had written the same move twice! Lesson: Never ever rely on the opponent's scoresheet! happy birthday Ljubomir! |
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| Nov-02-10 | | talisman: happy birthday L.L!!!! |
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| Dec-12-10 | | wordfunph: conversation between William Lombardy and Ljubomir Ljubojevic during Las Palmas 1975: William: Are you going to be a World Champion?
Ljubomir: No.
William: Don't you have an ambition?
Ljubomir: No. I'm not interested. |
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| Dec-12-10 | | BobCrisp: I'm not interested either. |
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| Jan-01-11 | | wordfunph: Costa del Sol 1971: During his game with Ciocaltea, Lubomir Ljubojevic debated with the tournament director claiming that he could castle even though he had moved his King, since it had been returned to its original square! i was looking for that game here in CG but nada.. |
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| Jun-09-11 | | grasser: Well at least I know what his left ear looks like. :) |
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| Jul-28-11 | | brankat: Probably the same as the right one. |
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