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Hikaru Nakamura
Nakamura 
 

Number of games in database: 3,902
Years covered: 1995 to 2025
Last FIDE rating: 2804 (2734 rapid, 2837 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2816
Overall record: +592 -245 =719 (61.2%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 2346 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (271) 
    B90 B30 B23 B51 B42
 Ruy Lopez (171) 
    C65 C67 C78 C77 C84
 Reti System (147) 
    A06 A04 A05
 Queen's Gambit Declined (119) 
    D37 D31 D38 D30 D35
 Queen's Pawn Game (115) 
    A45 D00 D02 E10 A46
 Nimzo Indian (77) 
    E32 E46 E34 E21 E20
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (251) 
    B90 B30 B80 B22 B92
 Ruy Lopez (247) 
    C67 C65 C70 C78 C72
 Queen's Gambit Declined (155) 
    D37 D31 D30 D06 D39
 Queen's Pawn Game (123) 
    D02 A45 A40 A41 A46
 King's Indian (115) 
    E97 E90 E92 E63 E94
 Giuoco Piano (107) 
    C53 C50 C54
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Krasenkow vs Nakamura, 2007 0-1
   Gelfand vs Nakamura, 2010 0-1
   Rybka vs Nakamura, 2008 0-1
   So vs Nakamura, 2015 0-1
   G Sagalchik vs Nakamura, 2003 0-1
   Crafty vs Nakamura, 2007 0-1
   Nakamura vs Karjakin, 2004 1-0
   Nakamura vs Kramnik, 2012 1-0
   A Beliavsky vs Nakamura, 2009 0-1
   Nakamura vs J W Loyte, 2001 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Corsica Masters (2007)
   Trophee CCAS (2008)
   Bullet Chess Championship (2023)
   Meltwater Tour Final (2021)
   Magnus Carlsen Invitational (2020)
   Ordix Open (2009)
   Chess.com Speed Chess Championship 2017/18 (2017)
   chess.com Speed Chess (2020)
   Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals (2020)
   New In Chess Classic (2021)
   Chess.com SpeedChess Finals (2024)
   Tata Steel India (2022)
   Champions Showdown (2019)
   Pro Chess League (2018)
   PRO League Group Stage (2019)

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   Notable Nakamura Games by caracas1970
   book: Fighting Chess with Hikaru Nakamura by Baby Hawk
   Fighting Chess with Hikaru Nakamura by kenilworthian
   Vid e o put Fredthebear in th is cent ury by fredthebear
   Notable Nakamura Games by iron maiden
   2020 The Corona Beer & Black Bears Matter Mo Ode by fredthebear
   Hikaru! by larrewl
   Match Nakamura! by docjan
   Match Nakamura! by amadeus

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   Keymer vs Nakamura (Apr-12-25) 0-1, unorthodox
   Nakamura vs Keymer (Apr-11-25) 1/2-1/2, unorthodox
   Nakamura vs A Erigaisi (Apr-10-25) 1-0, unorthodox

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HIKARU NAKAMURA
(born Dec-09-1987, 37 years old) Japan (federation/nationality United States of America)

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IM (2001); GM (2003). Hikaru Nakamura won the US Championship in 2004, 2009, 2012, 2015 and 2019. He was the world's second-ranked player as of October 2015. In July 2023, he married WGM Atousa Pourkashiyan.

Prodigy

Christopher Hikaru Nakamura was born December 9, 1987 in Hirakata in Osaka, Japan, to a Japanese father and an American mother. He is the younger brother of Asuka Nakamura. When he was two years old, he and his mother and brother moved to the United States. He started playing chess when he was seven, coached by his stepfather, Sunil Weeramantry. He was the youngest player in US history to defeat an International Master (Jay Bonin) in a USCF-rated game (10 years, 0 months), to become a National Master (USCF) (10 years, 79 days), to defeat a Grandmaster (Arthur Bisguier) in a USCF-rated game (10 years, 117 days), and to become an IM (13 years, 2 months), although most of these records have subsequently been surpassed. In 2003 he became the USA's youngest-ever grandmaster (15 years, 2 months and 19 days), a record later broken by Fabiano Caruana and Ray Robson.

Championships

<Youth> In 2001 he won the World U14 championship.

<National> When he won the Chessmaster US Championship 2005 (2004) (on tiebreak from Alexander Stripunsky), he was the youngest player to win the US championship since Robert James Fischer. He also won the US Championship (2009) outright by half a point ahead of the joint runners-up Robert Hess and Alexander Onischuk, and the United States Championship (2012) outright by a full point ahead of the winner of the 2010 and 2011 events, Gata Kamsky. He won the national title for a fourth time when he took out the US Championship (2015) with 8/11, half a point ahead of the outright runner up Ray Robson.

<World championship cycle> Seeded number 87 and aged 16, Nakamura reached the final 16 in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), defeating 46th seed Sergey Volkov, 19th seeded Aleksej Aleksandrov, and 51st seed Alexander Lastin in the preliminary rounds before bowing out to number 3 seed and finalist Michael Adams in the round of 16. He qualified to play in the World Cup (2013) through his rating, and defeated Peruvian WGM Deysi Estela Cori Tello in the first round, Azeri GM Eltaj Safarli in the second round and Indian GM Baskaran Adhiban in the third round, but was eliminated in the Round of 16 (fourth round) by Ukrainian GM Anton Korobov. He qualified by rating to participate in the World Cup (2015), and is doing so although he has already qualified for the Candidates Tournament of 2016 via the Grand Prix series of 2014-15. He defeated Richmond Phiri, Sam Shankland in the first two rounds, as well as Ian Nepomniachtchi in a third round thriller that Nakamura won in the deciding Armageddon blitz tiebreaker game after the three previous sets of rapid and blitz tiebreakers had been drawn. In the Round of 16 (the fourth round) he won against Michael Adams by 1.5-0.5 but lost to Pavel Eljanov in the quarter final, bowing out of the event.

<Grand Prix Series 2012-2013> He started the Grand Prix series with last at the FIDE Grand Prix London (2012). After bouncing back into contention with outright second in the FIDE Grand Prix Zug (2013), a poor showing at the FIDE Grand Prix Thessaloniki (2013) eliminated him from contention for the top 2 spots that would have qualified him for the 2014 Candidates Tournament. (1) He did however place 3rd behind Fabiano Caruana and Boris Gelfand in the FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013) to accumulate 300 GP points and place 6th in the 2012-13 Grand Prix series. Subsequently, his only chance to play in the 2014 Candidates Tournament was to be nominated as the Organizer's wild card once the venue was settled, however this did not eventuate.

<Grand Prix Series 2014-2015> Nakamura competed in the first leg of the series at the FIDE Grand Prix Baku (2014), where he scored 6/11 to place 3rd-7th, half a point behind the joint leaders Caruana and Gelfand. He therefore kicked off with a GP tally of 82 points, representing the even distribution of points applicable to each place from 3rd to 7th. In the second leg of the series, namely the FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2014), he placed =2nd and stood in 2nd place overall, excellently situated to take advantage of the opportunity to qualify for the Candidates tournament in 2016. He took full advantage of this in FIDE Grand Prix Khanty-Mansiysk (2015), when he came =1st to qualify for the Candidates Tournament of 2016.

Standard tournaments

In 2005, he won the 7th Foxwoods Open (2005).

In 2007, he won both the National Open (2007) that was held in Las Vegas and the Casino de Barcelona (2007).

The following year, he beat Xiangzhi Bu in the play-off to win the Gibraltar Masters (2008) Masters Open with 8.0/10.

Nakamura tied for first with Evgeny Najer at the 37th World Open (2009) after taking two last-day byes, each worth half a point and won the Donostia Chess Festival (2009) in tiebreak over Ruslan Ponomariov.

In 2010, he came =4th at Corus Group A (2010), and was equal top scorer in the victorious Rising Stars team in the Rising Stars - Experience (2010) tournament. He scored 5/9 (+1 -0 =8) at the Tal Memorial (2010), placing =4th, and finished the year with =4th place in the London Chess Classic (2010).

Nakamura began 2011 by taking clear first place at the A-Group of the prestigious category 20 Tata Steel Group A (2011) (formerly Corus) with a 9/13 score (+6 -1 =6) and a 2880 performance rating, ahead of a powerful field including the world's top four players: World Champion Viswanathan Anand, Magnus Carlsen, Levon Aronian and former World Champion Vladimir Kramnik. In June 2011, Nakamura placed =3rd in the Bazna King's Tournament (2011), in July he scored 4.5/10 at Dortmund Sparkassen (2011), in August he came =1st in the 2011 US Open Championship with 7.5/9 and in October he came =3rd in the Grand Slam Chess Final (2011) with 5/10. The following month, he suffered a lapse in form at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2011), scoring 3/9 and coming last but recovered to finish 2011 with second place behind Kramnik at the category 20 London Chess Classic (2011), scoring +4 -1 =3 (TPR of 2887).

He started 2012 by coming =2nd (4th on count back) at the Reggio Emilia (2011), half a point behind Anish Giri, and then came =5th at Tata Steel Group A (2012), scoring 7.5/13 (+3 -1 =9). He followed up in April 2012 with 1st at the 6th Annual Grand Pacific Open held in British Columbia. He competed in the Tal Memorial (2012) held in June, scoring 4/9. In July/August 2012, Nakamura placed a solid =3rd at the Biel Chess Festival (2012), but underperformed at the European Club Cup (2012), although in October 2012, he recovered to some extent by winning the 4 player double round robin 16th Unive Tournament (2012) (crown group) with 4.5/6 (+3 -0 =3). Nakamura finished 2012 with a strong 3rd placement in the London Chess Classic (2012) behind Carlsen and Kramnik, adding enough rating points to restore him to the top 10.

2013 started with a modest 7/13 result for outright 6th at the Tata Steel Group A (2013) event. He then followed up in May 2013 with equal 2nd at the Norway Chess (2013) with 5.5/9, half a point behind Sergey Karjakin and 3rd on tiebreak behind Carlsen; he also placed =2nd with 6/9 at the preliminary Norway Chess (Blitz) (2013) held to determine the draw for the main tournament, and earned the right to play with the White pieces in 5 games out of 9. In June 2013, he contested the category 22 Tal Memorial (2013), and was outright leader after 6 rounds. However, he lost the last 3 game to place 6th with 4.5/9, winning more games (4) and losing more games (4) than any other player in the tournament. Soon after, he came =3rd in the Houston Open in July 2013. In September he played in the quadrangular double round robin category 22 Sinquefield Cup (2013), and was in contention for first place until the last round, when he drew against Gata Kamsky finishing second with 3.5/6 (+2 -1 =3; TPR 2863) behind Magnus Carlsen.

Nakamura's first event in 2014 was the category 20 Tata Steel Masters (2014) where he scored 5/11 (+2 -3 =6) to shed a few rating points for FIDE's February rating list. He next competed in the category 23 Zurich Chess Challenge (2014) in which he placed 4th with 2/5 after coming agonisingly close to defeating World Champion Magnus Carlsen. He came 2nd with 3.5/5 in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014) which followed the standard time event, to remain in 4th in the overall event with the results of the standard and rapid events combined. In April, he participated in the inaugural Gashimov Memorial (2014), a category XXII 6-player DRR event inaugurated in honor of the late Azeri grandmaster, scoring 5/10 and placing =3rd behind Carlsen and Caruana. At the London Chess Classic (2014), he scored 2.5/5 to place 4th.

Nakamura's start to 2015 was to win the powerful Gibraltar Masters (2015) with 8.5/10 (+7 =3), and return a PB on his live rating and his new FIDE rating due in March. Despite cracking the 2800 barrier in the live ratings during the RR category 22 Zurich Chess Challenge (2015) held in February, he placed outright 2nd in the standard portion of the event behind Anand, ahead of Kramnik, Karjakin, Aronian and Caruana respectively. His second place in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2015) with 3/5 made him =1st with Anand in the overall event, but he won an Armageddon tiebreaker with the former World Champion to win first prize. His good form continued at the category 22 Norway Chess (2015) event, where he was undefeated to place =2nd (3rd on a narrow SB tiebreak), behind Topalov and alongside Anand with 6/9 and a TPR of 2900. In September he competed in the second leg of the inaugural Grand Chess Tour at Sinquefield Cup (2015), and finished equal second with 5/9 behind Aronian in what amounted to a par for rating performance. October saw Nakamura compete in the lucrative Millionaire Chess (2015) tournament, which he won after battling through a complicated tiebreak system that involved a playoff to decide a playoff for fourth, and then winning a knockout rapid game semi-final that was called after round 7 of 9 of the main standard time event. He finished the year with a poor performance at the London Chess Classic (2015) where he came in toward the bottom of the field after scoring 4/9.

He started 2016 with an upbeat result at the Gibraltar Masters (2016), winning first prize after a rapid and blitz game tiebreak that ended in an Armageddon victory against runner-up Maxime Vachier-Lagrave. He finished clear second at the
FIDE Grand Swiss (2023), scoring 8/11 (+5 =6 -0) and qualifying for the 2024 Candidates tournament.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Nakamura has represented the U.S. in the Olympiads of 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2014, helping his country to the bronze medal in 2006 and 2008. He scored 6/10 during the Khanty-Mansiysk Olympiad (2010) on top board for the USA and a performance rating of 2741 and 6/9 in the Istanbul Olympiad (2012), coming in fourth on top board. His overall score in Olympiads is 31 points accumulated in 49 games played.

<World Team Championship> Nakamura played board 1 for the USA at the World Team Championship (2010), scoring individual gold and team silver. He also played top board at the World Team Championship (2013), winning individual silver and helping his team to 4th place in the event.

<European Club Cup> He played top board for the SK Husek Vienna in the European Club Cup (2009) and top board for the Italian club Obiettivo Risarcimento Padova in 2012 and 2013, second board for the Italian club in 2014 and board 3 for the same club in 2015. He scored individual bronze in 2013 and 2014.

Rapids

Nakamura is one of the world's best rapid and blitz players, and the world's best bullet (one-minute) player. He regularly plays on the internet, usually at the ICC where he is the highest rated player (userid <Smallville>), and at Playchess, where he is known as <Star Wars>. He has set many rating records under different categories. In 2008, he challenged and broke blitz king Alexander Grischuk 's record at ICC of 3737, reaching 3750. Grischuk subsequently challenged Nakamura to a 20 game 3 minutes blitz match, which Nakamura took out convincingly by 14.5-5.5. (2) He also won the first ICC Open in 2011 ahead of over 2000 other contestants. (3)

In 2007, he won the annual Corsica Masters (2007), defeating Rustam Kasimdzhanov in the final. One of the most convincing demonstrations of Nakamura's ability as a rapid player was when he won the Trophee CCAS (2008), defeating Xiangzhi Bu, Anatoly Karpov and Vasyl Ivanchuk in the playoff matches to take first prize in a field that included Carlsen. Nakamura also defeated Carlsen to take out the BNbank Blitz (2009). He was runner-up to Ivanchuk at the Cap d'Agde (2010) in the playoff. He also defeated Rising Stars team mate Anish Giri for the right to play at Amber 2011.

In 2012, Nakamura won the trifecta of silver medals at the SportAccord World Mind Games (Men's Rapid) (2012), the World Mind Games (Men's Blitz) and the World Mind Games (Men's Blindfold) events. He closed out 2013 by winning the London Chess Classic (Knockout) (2013), defeating Gelfand in the final by 1.5-0.5, after qualifying for the final by winning the preliminary London Chess Classic (Group C) (2013).

In June 2014, he competed in both the World Rapid Championship (2014) and the World Blitz Championship (2014) that were held in Dubai. In the former, he scored a relatively meager 8.5/15, losing 40 rapid rating points, while he was much more successful in the latter, scoring 16/21, being the runner up by a point behind the winner Magnus Carlsen. His blitz rating skyrocketed to over 2900. Subsequently he competed in the Super Rapidplay Open that was a companion event to the 2014 London Classic (see above), winning the event with an almost perfect score of 9.5/10. He also competed in the London Elite Player Blitz that was the other companion event, and placed =1st with 6/10.

The 2016 edition of the Zurich Chess Challenge was a two-part event, which kicked off with a preliminary Zurich Chess Challenge (Opening Blitz) (2016) to determine who had three whites in the five rounds of the Zurich Chess Challenge (2016) (rapid). Nakamura placed first in the Opening Blitz earning the use of the white pieces in three of the five rounds of the first section of the actual tournament, the round robin rapid event where he placed equal first alongside Anand. Nakamura playing the black pieces three times in the second section of the event, the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2016), again placed equal first with Anand to tie the overall score, but won on tiebreak to take first prize.

He has authored the book Bullet Chess: One Minute to Mate.

Matches

In December 2004, Nakamura played the best-of-six game Karjakin - Nakamura Match (2004) in the "Duelo de los Jovenes Prodigios" (Duel of the Wonder Boys) in Cuernavaca, Estado de Morelos, Mexico, winning 4.5-1.5 (+4 -1 =1). In May 2011 at the St Louis chess club, he won the Nakamura - Ponomariov Match (2011) by 3.5-2.5 (+2 =3 -1). In June 2014, he played for the Cez Trophy Navara - Nakamura Match (2014) in Praha, Czechia, which involved a 4-game standard time match against David Navara. He won the match by 3.5-0.5.

960 Chess

In August 2009, Nakamura defeated Aronian in Mainz, Germany to become the 960 world champion and remained unchallenged as such until Carlsen defeated him in a match in February 2018 by a margin of 14-10.

Ratings and rankings

Nakamura's highest ranking as a Junior (U20) was #3 in April 2004 and 2005. He first broke into the world's top 100 in October 2004 when he was still 16 years old, and has remained in the top 100 continuously since that time. He reached the world's top 10 in January 2011, and has remained in that elite group continuously since January 2013. In September 2015 his rating reached 2814 despite which he was still ranked world #4 behind Carlsen, Anand and Topalov respectively. However in October 2016, his ranking reached its highest point so far, 2816, when his ranking was world #2, his highest ranking so far.

Sources and references

(1) Wikipedia article: FIDE Grand Prix 2012–2013 (2) http://dod.ru/chess/game/Crest/Smal...; (3) Further details are at this post: Hikaru Nakamura; (4) https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast... (podcast interview by Ben Johnson through iTunes); Live rating list: http://www.2700chess.com/; Wikipedia article: Hikaru Nakamura

Last updated: 2024-04-14 20:46:42

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 page 1 of 157; games 1-25 of 3,902  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. S Predescu vs Nakamura 1-0641995U.S. National Scholastic Grade 2 ChampionshipB08 Pirc, Classical
2. L Au vs Nakamura 1-0431997Hawaii opB83 Sicilian
3. Nakamura vs J Bonin 1-0361997Marshall Chess ClubC02 French, Advance
4. J Kleinman vs Nakamura  ½-½411997January CongressA49 King's Indian, Fianchetto without c4
5. Nakamura vs B Karen 0-1521997Nassau FuturityB06 Robatsch
6. A Bisguier vs Nakamura 0-1211998Somerset ACN Action SwissE70 King's Indian
7. B Karen vs Nakamura  0-1261998Nassau g/30B23 Sicilian, Closed
8. A Stripunsky vs Nakamura 0-1431998Marshall Chess ClubB40 Sicilian
9. P MacIntyre vs Nakamura  1-0541998US Amateur Team EastA07 King's Indian Attack
10. J Thinnsen vs Nakamura 1-035199899th US OpenA45 Queen's Pawn Game
11. Nakamura vs I Krush 1-062199899th US OpenB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
12. S Kriventsov vs Nakamura  1-0241999Rated TournamentB80 Sicilian, Scheveningen
13. Nakamura vs J Fang 0-12119998th Eastern Class ChampionshipsB73 Sicilian, Dragon, Classical
14. A David vs Nakamura  1-025199927th World OpenB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
15. Nakamura vs W Paschall  ½-½251999North Bay OpenB65 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...Be7 Defense, 9...Nxd4
16. J Hebert vs Nakamura  1-0601999North Bay OpenE97 King's Indian
17. Nakamura vs V Rajlich  1-0521999North Bay OpenB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
18. G Taylor vs Nakamura  1-0311999North Bay OpenE75 King's Indian, Averbakh, Main line
19. Nakamura vs F Baragar  0-1451999North Bay OpenC17 French, Winawer, Advance
20. M Stroud vs Nakamura  0-1371999North Bay OpenE92 King's Indian
21. S Glinert vs Nakamura  ½-½381999North Bay OpenA07 King's Indian Attack
22. D Moody vs Nakamura 0-1201999100th US OpenB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
23. Nakamura vs A Aleksandrov ½-½601999100th US OpenC45 Scotch Game
24. A Wojtkiewicz vs Nakamura 1-0421999100th US OpenE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
25. Nakamura vs G Gaiffe 1-0541999100th US OpenB23 Sicilian, Closed
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Jun-23-11  Rolfo: <..What I see is that Naka must progress a few more inches. How???

1. Get better with Black overall.
2. Get better vs. 2760+ competition.

What should he continue? Continue throttling 2740 and below. But, that is too arbitrary. His degree of competition now is 2760+. He must learn to keep up with them.

Or else what's the point?>

Be careful ycbaywtb, I know a few who previously suggested something along that line in good intentions I believe, but got a severe beating :)

Jun-23-11  Strongest Force: I know Nak will make-up for lost ground in his next two tournaments. He likes money and rating points too much not to.
Jun-23-11  Jambow: <Conclusion: Nakamura is more likely to place high at Wijk an Zee than at a tournament like Bazna.>

Fair enough <Kinghunt> I apologize if I misunderstood at least to some degree your intentions. Since it followed on the heals of <frog>'s post and seemed to express somewhat his maligned opinion I lumped you in with him.

BTW I absolutely agree with the comment above and have stated myself that the ability to extract wins from lower rated players was an advantage for Nakamura. What I don't agree with is that Nakamura essentially played the same and it was strictly a matter of higher level of competition that caused his poor results, which is the type of rubbish <frog> has been shoveling here for years. He had a bad tournament period as the numbers when presented in a truthful fashion clearly demonstrate.

<Also, I'm rather puzzled as to why you're protesting my use of percentages.>

For the simple fact that the general metric used in chess is elo and mixing in another metric only adds confusion. Note you started with a line at 2740 ELO then used switched to %. Why not start with % and say Nakamura beats 99.98% of the worlds rated players but strugles with the last .01%? Because everyone that follows chess has some degree of understanding of what elo is so a TPR given in elo paints a much clearer picture if that's what one intends to do.

At the end of the day all players perform better against lower rated opponents so it's no surprise that Nakamura does as well, what my post demonstrated by using his TPR is that Nakamura performed far better against the elite players in Wijk than in Banza or in plain english Banza was a sub par performance not a huge revelation of his inabillity against top players.

Jun-23-11  Jambow: 1. Get better with Black overall.

On this note <ycbaywtb:> I think you simply are mistaken he has a better record with black than any of the other players in Banza or Wijk and has the one of best records on the black side in the game. http://ratings.fide.com/chess_stati... but don't take my word here it is at FIDE.

Wijk is too small a number of games to draw conclusions from, however let me interject my own subjective opinion if I may. Nakamura's focus on opening preperation and study is also reflected in his play here, his style was simply more traditional on the whole following the accepted notion that you win with white and draw with black. So in light of that this is somewhat predictable IMHO. He will be better suited to find lines that are best for him and give his unique style better opportunity for exploitation and he will.

2. Get better vs. 2760+ competition.

Lol yes of course he does although some might think I disagee I don't, he certainly was able to hold his own against the top players in Wijk and put the hurt on Ponomariov in their match too. His plan of developement simply has him a little out of kilter at the moment which gave him a temporary setback for longterm gains. If he was training with Kasparov as Carlsen or Kramnik as Karjakin things might look a little different too. No offence to Little John who would benefit from such a collaberative effort as well.

I'm just trying to clear some swamp gas before the stench becomes unbearable as it has in the past. ;o]

Jun-23-11  timhortons: < I know a few who previously suggested something along that line in good intentions I believe, but got a severe beating>

Your same generic with the person you referring rolfo, I dont believe he got good intention other than mock nakamura in his page

Jun-23-11  blueofnoon: No idea about this fuss.

Certainly -1 is not a good result, but can happen to anyone (including Kramnik) when the tournament is so strong.

All the people who use statistics in one way or another, should know that one tournament is too small a sample to draw any conclusion from.

Nakamura might do better in Bazna next time, and worse in Wijk Aan Zee, nobody knows at this point.

It's natural Nakamura fans wish he will improve his score in the next tournament ( I believe that's Dortmund), and for the time being I have nothing against seeing this exciting young man in the field either.

Jun-23-11  Rolfo: timhortons, good to see you around. You see I believe in people :)
Jun-23-11  James Bowman: <Blueofnoon> Well said.
Jun-23-11  frogbert: riverbeast comments on naka losing for carlsen:

<Carlsen does seem to have Nakamura's number lately....

And I hate to say it, but Carlsen looks a little stressed out....He's a young guy, and he already has bags under his eyes

Maybe it's all that heavy training?>

that's not an observation. it's trying to change the subject. as an observation it's not a very good one either. but again: i'm not offended by it. i thought, and still think, that you were being lame. see if you get the difference.

Jun-23-11  I play the Fred: You heard him, <Riverbeast>. Keep it positive. You don't want to be <lame>, do you?
Jun-23-11  frogbert: i play the fred, i don't mind "negative", necessarily. but i think we should stay clear of the players' physical appearance - and certainly not throw comments about appearance because someone has lost a chess game.

one of the more tedious things about watching nakamura on icc is to read the 10000th burger "joke". those are "lame" too.

judge the players for what they do at the chess board and what they say about it before and after. i think that's fair, both for naka and carlsen (and anybody else).

Jun-24-11  rilkefan: <<Riverbeast>: <Carlsen looks a little stressed out....He's a young guy, and he already has bags under his eyes>

<frogbert>: <that's not an observation. Here's what Carlsen looks like: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OMLYyLC8H... He doesn't look stressed out to me.>

Gotta agree with <frogbert> here.

Jun-24-11  James Bowman: <Riverbeast: <frogbert> I only mentioned the bags under his eyes because it looked like Carlsen was stressed out> <It wasn't intended as an insult....Just an observation>

I actually thought the same thing about Carlsen. I just didn't put it in writing, niether do I think it's comparable to calling someone fat or other something that's clearly derogatory.

I think <Riverbeast> should get the benefit of the doubt unless he has a pattern of posts focusing on players physical appearance in an insulting mannor (although this didn't sound insulting IMHO) So to state emphatically he made the comment because Nakamura lost to Carlsen seems unfounded and to make a federal case shows an emotional attatchment that's slightly abnormal.

<Now on the whole judge the players for what they do at the chess board and what they say about it before and after. i think that's fair, both for naka and carlsen (and anybody else).>

I do think that was well said and agree on the whole, but I'm going to give <riverbeast> the benefit of the doubt here and file this under much ado about nothing.

Jun-24-11  frogbert: rilkefan, what's your point? were you unable to find the post of riverbeast that i quoted, maybe?

producing fake "quotes" like you just did simply frames yourself; if you take pleasure in being dishonest, then please be my guest.

i guess it's simply your way of saying that you dislike me - and that you're out of arguments. fine. only haters will think you're being funny.

Jun-24-11  Riverbeast: I can't believe this is still a topic of argument

Talk about lame....

At the time I wrote that post, there was a picture of Carlsen in chessbase with heavy bags under his eyes

It was a simple observation....It was written more out of concern than insult (I don't dislike Carlsen, and even if I did, I would not attack him with sophomoric comments about his appearance)

But since my comment bothered you so much <frogbert>, I can assure you that in the more recent photos I've seen, Carlsen looks much more well rested

Do you feel better now?

Jun-25-11  rilkefan: <<frogbert>: rilkefan, what's your point?>

You said something silly (well, several silly things) and I openly mocked you. And in reply you said several more silly things, leaving the realm of the mockable and entering the kingdom of the pitiable.

Jun-25-11  shivasuri4: <rilkefan:

<frogbert>: <that's not an observation. Here's what Carlsen looks like: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OMLYyLC8H... He doesn't look stressed out to me.>>

How do you justify this,<rilkefan>?Creating a quote of your liking and attributing it to someone who hasn't made it is a very cheap thing to do,as I am sure you know.

Jun-25-11  rilkefan: <it is a very cheap thing to do>

Come off it. Nobody who can read would think for even a moment that this was an actual quotation. But my apologies to anyone here who can't read.

Jun-25-11  timhortons: <one of the more tedious things about watching nakamura on icc is to read the 10000th burger "joke". those are "lame" too.>

oh well, why then the magnus carlsen account is one of the frequent spectator in those games done by naka against rybka at icc, maybe he enjoy reading the burger joke or just enjoy watching naka mating rybka with 6 knights.

Jun-25-11  Strongest Force: Tim makes sense. I think Mag has deep respect for Nak. I want to see a rematch of that 40 game blitz Moscow throw-down: filmed on DVD so that money is in the picture.
Jun-25-11  shivasuri4: Great,<rilkefan>,hurl another insult when you can't defend your action.So sweet of you!
Jun-25-11  rilkefan: <Great,<rilkefan>,hurl another insult when you can't defend your action.>

I did defend my action. You may of course not be sufficiently objective to realize that, but such is life.

I could of course scold you for your deceptive quoting, but I guess I'll just stick with my original position of "Come off it".

Jun-25-11  shivasuri4: Yet another insult from your side.Not bad.I suppose you wouldn't mind the following.

<rilkefan:I admit I was being silly when I attributed a quote to <frogbert> which he didn't make.> Yes,that's right.

Jun-25-11  frogbert: <You said something silly (well, several silly things) and I openly mocked you. >

rilkefan, if i were to mock people here every time they said something <i> consider silly, then this place would've been very nice, indeed. since you apparently read my posts exclusively to find something you consider worthy of being "mocked", you would do this place a favour by putting me on your ignore list. that's what i've ended up doing with a decent number of naka and so fans - or i might have been busy mocking other kibitzers half the time i spend here, just like you do. and if "openly mocking" posters that annoy you is your primary purpose here, rilkefan, then finding something else to do might not be such a bad idea.

---

returning to riverbeast: i didn't even comment on riverbeast's "observation" here on naka's page - i only vaguely alluded to it on the tournament page, without even mentioning riverbeast's name or hinting about the original context.

but since riverbeast seemingly wanted a reaction to his original, lame attempt at provocation, he used the first opportunity here on naka's forum to refire it, even if a full week had gone by - but when doing so, he compared apples and pears. [he implicitly compared his own comments on carlsen's appearance with my analysis of why a cat 21 drr is a different experience for naka compared to a cat. 20 field of the waz type - ignoring how vastly different those two types of posts are.]

and does he get it? today riverbeast writes:

<since my comment bothered you so much <frogbert>, I can assure you that in the more recent photos I've seen, Carlsen looks much more well rested>

so, which part of "i think we should stay clear of the players' physical appearance" is it that you have a problem understanding, riverbeast? if you would come out of the closet because you became so aroused over carlsen's looks, if you would've been writing poems describing his hair and his arms and his chest with all your love for the male body, you would still be talking about the player's <physical appearance> - which i think is a lame thing to do, regardless. and even lamer when your sudden interest in it directly follows naka's loss to carlsen.

all the talk about grischuk's appearance during the "candidate matches" was equally silly, imho. i think we failed to talk about gelfand's belly too, right? or topalov's thin hair...

so, will the two of you offer an opinion on naka's chances in dortmund - or should we rather continue with the burger jokes and discuss diets; i know a couple people who have tried various low-carb diets, so i might have something to offer if that's where we want to go.

Jun-25-11  frogbert: <I can't believe this is still a topic of argument>

eh... riverbeast, <you> were the one who relaunched it as a "topic of argument". you. nobody else. if it weren't for you, nobody would've talked about it now.

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