|Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals (2020)|
The Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals benefiting Kiva was the 4-player grand finale of the Magnus Carlsen Tour and took place from 9-20 August 2020 on the chess24 Playzone. The event had a $300,000 prize fund with $140,000 for 1st place. The participants were Magnus Carlsen and Daniil Dubov, who had won previous Tour events, and Hikaru Nakamura and Ding Liren, who had qualified as the best performing players not to win an event (since Carlsen won 3 out of 4). The semifinals consisted of up to five mini-matches, and the winner of three such would prevail. The final consisted of up to seven mini-matches, and the winner of four such would be the overall winner. The mini-matches consisted of four 15 + 10 Rapid games, and if necessary two 5 + 3 Blitz tiebreak games, and if still needed an Armageddon game where White had 5 minutes to Black's 4, while a draw counted as a win for Black. No draws offers were allowed before move 40. All rounds and matches began at 16:00 CEST (server time 10:00 am). Tournament director: Sotiris Logothetis. Chief arbiter: Panagiotis Nikolopoulos.
Magnus Carlsen beat Hikaru Nakamura 4-3 in the final.
Official site: https://events.chess24.com/tour/
Semifinals, 9-12 August
Carlsen 01½½ 01 0 / 11½- -- - / ½11- -- - / 10½½ ½1 - 3
Ding Liren 10½½ 10 1 / 00½- -- - / ½00- -- - / 01½½ ½0 - 1 Final, 14-20 August
Carlsen ½0½½ -- - / 0½1½ ½1 - / 1½0½ 0½ - / ½½1½ -- - / ½½½½ 10 0 / 1½½1 -- - / 1½0½ 01 1 4
Nakamura ½1½½ -- - / 1½0½ ½0 - / 0½1½ 1½ - / ½½0½ -- - / ½½½½ 01 1 / 0½½0 -- - / 0½1½ 10 0 3
Nakamura 0110 ½1 - / ½½11 -- - / ½½1½ -- - / ---- -- - 3
Dubov 1001 ½0 - / ½½00 -- - / ½½0½ -- - / ---- -- - 0
ChessBase 1: https://en.chessbase.com/post/magnu...
ChessBase 2: https://en.chessbase.com/post/magnu...
Previous Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour event: Legends of Chess (2020)
| page 1 of 3; games 1-25 of 69
|1. Ding Liren vs Carlsen
||1-0||44||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B80 Sicilian, Scheveningen|
|2. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
||½-½||41||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||A48 King's Indian|
|3. Nakamura vs Dubov
||1-0||58||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B60 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer|
|4. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
||1-0||46||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||D02 Queen's Pawn Game|
|5. Dubov vs Nakamura
|| ||½-½||43||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3|
|6. Ding Liren vs Carlsen
||1-0||46||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B13 Caro-Kann, Exchange|
|7. Nakamura vs Dubov
||0-1||63||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B58 Sicilian|
|8. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
|| ||½-½||39||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||C67 Ruy Lopez|
|9. Dubov vs Nakamura
||0-1||47||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||E21 Nimzo-Indian, Three Knights|
|10. Ding Liren vs Carlsen
|| ||½-½||43||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B13 Caro-Kann, Exchange|
|11. Nakamura vs Dubov
||1-0||34||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B60 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer|
|12. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
||1-0||24||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||D02 Queen's Pawn Game|
|13. Dubov vs Nakamura
||1-0||17||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||E21 Nimzo-Indian, Three Knights|
|14. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
|| ||½-½||35||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||E94 King's Indian, Orthodox|
|15. Dubov vs Nakamura
||0-1||32||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||C26 Vienna|
|16. Nakamura vs Dubov
||1-0||43||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B33 Sicilian|
|17. Dubov vs Nakamura
|| ||½-½||61||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto|
|18. Ding Liren vs Carlsen
||0-1||36||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||C50 Giuoco Piano|
|19. Nakamura vs Dubov
|| ||½-½||91||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B33 Sicilian|
|20. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
||1-0||46||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||D40 Queen's Gambit Declined, Semi-Tarrasch|
|21. Ding Liren vs Carlsen
||0-1||29||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B80 Sicilian, Scheveningen|
|22. Nakamura vs Dubov
|| ||½-½||34||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7|
|23. Dubov vs Nakamura
||0-1||68||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto|
|24. Nakamura vs Dubov
|| ||½-½||33||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7|
|25. Carlsen vs Ding Liren
||1-0||55||2020||Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals||B90 Sicilian, Najdorf|
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|Sep-08-20|| ||Sokrates: <Pedro> What about Schroedinger's cat? :-)|
|Sep-08-20|| ||Pedro Fernandez: <<Sokrates>: <Pedro> What about Schroedinger's cat? :-)>|
Well, Scat. For sure the person responsible for that cat was an ancestor from Copperfield. David was born and raised in New Jersey seeing everyday that Statue on Bedloe's Island (Hudson River). He always said: - Someday I'm going to do the same thing my ancestor did with Scat, and he did it !!
|Sep-08-20|| ||AylerKupp: <<beatgiant> To say that the relative value of time odds and draw odds must be standard for all pairs of players is the equivalent of saying we should establish a single fixed price per square foot of housing across the United States.>|
More nonsense. First of all housing prices vary in <different areas>, not across the United States (and certainly not the world) according to many factors, particularly the size of the house and its location. Second of all "standard" housing prices <ARE> established for the different areas based on those factors. They are called "comps". Asking prices for home are based on those comps as a starting point, sellers take those comps and add their own factors to account for negotiation loses and buyers (who are equally aware of those comps) make their initial offer based on those comps minus the amount they expect to give up in the negotiations. In the end they settle for somewhere around the comps value. So, yes, I would be willing to sell my home for such a standard price if the price is "fair" according to the characteristics and location of my home. Sure, I would love to get more for it than the "fair" price, but that's not likely to happen unless the buyer is either ignorant or emotional about my home.
It's just like buying cars. Car values are based on the state of the car, its age, its mileage, and several other factors. A "standard" value is defined by databases like Kelley Blue book and others. Both the car seller and the buyer know this "standard" value and a negotiation similar to buying a home takes place.
And, using your "reasoning" you can never compare anything, because each person has different preferences and therefore comparison standards can't be defined. It would be like saying that no standard rules for chess can be defined because every person would like their pieces to move according to the way they want them to move. So sure, I would like all my chess pieces to be able to move like queens, or a combination of queens and knights, except that the horizontal and vertical length that my "super pawns" could move would only be limited by where my "super pawns" are located and the edges of the board.
<No, <we> are not. <You> are.>
Well, that's true. I am looking for a set of WTCR that provides a fair opportunity for each player to succeed. And you are not. But, frankly, I'm not sure what you are looking for other than to exercise your apparent desire to haggle. So I guess that in that case the winner of the tiebreaker is not necessarily who is the better chess player but who is a better negotiator. That certainly makes a lot of sense.
<And that search begins with the premise that <fairness means equal average outcomes>
It definitely does not. You seem to be confusing equal <opportunity> ("fairness") with equal <outcomes> (results). If the <opportunity> is equal, then the winner of the game will be the better player. Whereas if the <results> are equal, well, that defeats the purpose of using a procedure as a tiebreaker because, by definition, the results will be the same. Doesn't it?
<Whereas the solution I proposed begins with the premise that <fairness means that neither player is placed in a position of thinking that the other player got better conditions.>>
Sure, we just seem to be quibbling as to whether those conditions are best established by each and every player rather than organization that has more knowledge and resources to establish those <provably fair> conditions. And if the conditions are provably fair, why would either player think that the other player got better conditions? Unless, of course, one player's idea of "fair conditions" is a set of conditions that gives him an advantage.
After all what would we expect this organization to do next? Standardize the rules of chess? Horror!
|Sep-08-20|| ||AylerKupp: <Sokrates> Anyway, I begin to long for a new internet tournament, since, dare I say it, this is a site about chess. :-)>|
You don't have long to wait. See https://uschesschamps.com/2020-cham... and https://uschesschamps.com/2020-sain....
|Sep-08-20|| ||AylerKupp: <<beatgiant> Sure, if you don't mind a massive housing shortage.>|
Yes, just make another nonsensical claim and try to pass it off as a "fact" without any basis or justification.
|Sep-08-20|| ||AylerKupp: <<Pedro Fernandez> Don't be scared by the word 'sublime'>|
There is an old saying in the US: "Sticks and bones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." I'm not scared of words.
<PASS is not a common oligarchy, it is an Elite.>
But when a small group of people have all the power, that's the definition of an oligarchy as well as a subset of an elite. An elite could be a small group of people who are superior to their peers in a particular field, but they may not have any power, although they likely will.
<So that, my great <AylerKupp>, if you quit, then PASS won't ever exist, and so, Game Over!.
That reminds me of what William Sherman, a top general in the Union Army during the US Civil War, said something along these lines to his supporters who wanted him to run for president of the US. "If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve." Those weren't his exact words, but that was his message to them.
|Sep-09-20|| ||Pedro Fernandez: Nice <AK>; the big difference is that we are having some fun with our jokes, whereas general Sherman words was in serious. |
''Sticks and bones...''; Excellent proverb, and I think it fits perfectly with Politics.
Yesterday I did realize that the word ''Exalted'' (Spanish Exaltado) has the same force as the word Excelsus. BTW, the words, Notable, Elite and Sublime, are exactly written equal in English and Spanish.
|Sep-09-20|| ||Sokrates: Thanks for the link, <AK>. Let's hope CG also knows it's coming. |
What an impressive array of legendary players. If this becomes a success it might spawn other FischerRandom tournaments. I'd like that. The genre is a tribute to real chess talent and not to mindless repetition of computer moves.
I am glad that good old Yasser Seirawan is one of the commentators, but I would rather have Tania (in particular) and Leko instead of Shahade and Ashley (in particular). But it's not bad and I am sure we are in for some fantastic entertainment.
|Sep-09-20|| ||moronovich: <Eggman: News from Chessbase India:
<<The search for Magnus Carlsen's opponent had reached half way in the month of March 2020. FIDE Candidates 2020, which was stopped halfway due to the Corona virus scare, is now resuming from the 1st of November 2020 from round 8 onwards. All the results until round 7 will stay as they are. The tournament will resume in Yekaterinburg, which was the original venue of the tournament. The organizers have also arranged for an alternate venue in Tbilisi Georgia.>>>|
|Sep-09-20|| ||Sokrates: Thanks for these news, dear <moronovich>. Yekaterinburg or Tbilisi is potato potato for me, as long as they take proper measures. But who wouldn't trust Russian officials and the FIDE leadership?|
Meanwhile, I'll invest most of my attention in internet chess and the upcoming Chess 960 top event. I think Yasser may be trimming his eyebrows as we speak! (sorry - I just had a Cuban Island with my wife).
|Sep-09-20|| ||moronovich: Sounds like fine spirtits,my dear <Sokrates> ;)|
|Sep-09-20|| ||metatron2: <I think Yasser may be trimming his eyebrows as we speak!>|
hehe good one <Sokrates> :)
|Sep-10-20|| ||Sokrates: <moronovich: Sounds like fine spirtits...> |
:-) One of the easy cocktails: 3 cl of vodka, white rum, tripple sec and fresh lemon juice, shaken with lots of ice, sown into a cocktail glass, and voila, the world becomes a better place, even for chessplayers! :-)
|Sep-10-20|| ||moronovich: <:-) One of the easy cocktails: 3 cl of vodka, white rum, tripple sec and fresh lemon juice, shaken with lots of ice, sown into a cocktail glass, and voila, the world becomes a better place, even for chessplayers! :-)>|
Reminds me of the day I was born,the common opinion was that I was not too pretty."But as my father said:"We can always give hime some nice clothes".
|Sep-10-20|| ||Sokrates: <moro> LOL
And a correction: the verb should not be sown, of course, but strained.
|Sep-10-20|| ||moronovich: <Sokrates: <moro> LOL
And a correction: the verb should not be sown, of course, but strained.>>|
Shaken,not stirred !?
|Sep-10-20|| ||Sokrates: <Shaken,not stirred !?>|
Yes :-) In general, cocktails with fruit juice and/or syrup should be shaken. Those without, stirred. That's why James Bond emphasizes that his Vodka Martini should be "shaken, not stirred" - usually that kind of cocktail is stirred.
Of course, I'm talking about Connery's Bond, not Craig's. I think he got a line where he answers a bartender's question about it with "I don't care!" Bond fans may correct me! Personally, I don't like vodka unless the taste is camouflaged by other ingredients. I highly prefer gin mixed with vermouth.
|Sep-10-20|| ||Pedro Fernandez: My deat <Sokrates>, do you know when we'll have, again, a top event? Is it Altivox? (I heard something abou it). Thanks a lot for your attention.|
PS. Don't you think FIDE should be thinking in a date to continuing Candidates? What is your opinion? Thanks!
PS2. Perhaps <AylerKupp>, or well, any oher(s) of our members have posted on the subject, but I have not given realize.
|Sep-10-20|| ||Sokrates: Dear <Pedro>,
Next top even - and what a top event - is this one (link stolen from AK above):
Likewise, go back a few posts on this thread and find our friend <moronovich>s quotation on the Candidates - estimated to resume on 1 November, either at Yekaterinburg or Tbilisi.
In view of the latest flare-up of the Covid19 ... everywhere! ... I personally think it's too risky to arrange any physical tournament until a proper vaccine has been invented and implemented.
Sure, they would probably make heavy precautions, but from the players' home to the venue - at the venue including hotels & transportation - to the return by aeroplane there would be so many pitholes of risktaking that it would put extra mental pressure on the participants.
Recently, at a private party of 30, one single person infected all other 29 with a couple of hours. This is a highly dangerous disease and it is very foolish to underestimate it. Now the side effects begin to show on the younger people who had had the disease. They didn't die from it, but they have got severe side effects afterwards. Fatigue, lack of taste and smell, amnesia, small outbreaks of emboli all over the body and much more. So younger people aren't as invulnerable as they might have thought.
So... dear Pedro, although we all long to see good old chess events where the players meet over the board, I think it would be playing with the good will of fate.
|Sep-11-20|| ||AylerKupp: <Sokrates> I probably should be embarassed to say that I had never heard of a Cuban Island cocktail although, I suppose, no one should ever be embarrassed by just being ignorant; one should instead become more educated.|
So I looked it up and, according to https://www.diffordsguide.com/cockt..., it was "Adapted from a drink discovered in 2005 at Di Vino's, Hong Kong." No mention of what that drink was and what it consisted of. "Adapted" can mean almost anything.
That reminds me of a true story. In the 1970s there was a semi-popular programming language called ATLAS for automatic test equipment. And, like any computer language that took itself seriously, it had a "standard". The company Hewlett-Packard, who was very active in developing automatic test equipment, developed their version of the ATLAS language and they described it as "an extended subset of the ATLAS language standard."
Extended subset? I guess that means pretty much anything goes. The original drink, given its supposed origin, might have contained gin (the British part), baijiu (the Chinese part), and sweet vermouth and from those ingredients it might have been "adapted" to become a Cuban Island cocktail, either with your ingredients or Dillard's ingredients which consist of light rum, dry vermouth, lemon juice, and sugar cane syrup (of course, after all, it is supposed to be Cuban). So I suppose that, like chess openings, every cocktail has several variations (the semi on-topic part of this post).
Thankfully the 2020 St. Louis Rapid & Blitz tournament will be starting in 4 days and we can get back to chess.
|Sep-11-20|| ||moronovich: But Fischer Random is starting today/night
|Sep-11-20|| ||Sokrates: Thanks, <AK> - as always enjoyable and enlightening posts by your hand.|
My Cuban Island cocktail is from my favourite cocktail book, a Danish one, with cocktail classics mixed with poetry and short essays. I have used it so much that each page is stained with various fluids and marked with my notes (a tad more Grand Marnier or the likes).
That book's version of the Cuban Island is very much in line with countless Caraibbean cocktails, nearly all of them consisting of 1) a strong alcohol (gin/tequila/rum), 2) a kind of vermouth (red/dry/bianco), 3) a kind of liqueur (tripple sec/blue curacao/Benedictine etc) and juice (lemon/lime/pinapple/orange).
In that genre my favourite is a Malcolm Lowry (white rum/tequila/Cointreau/lemon juice/salt edge on glass), named after the English authour (1909-1957) famous for the novel "Under the Volcano" (1947).
Another favourite of mine is a Bunueloni (named after iconic Spanish film creator Luis Bunuel) (Punt e Mes/Martini Bianco/gin and orange zest). Fine names for great cocktails.
|Sep-11-20|| ||AylerKupp: <<moronovich> But Fischer Random is starting today/night>|
I know, but I have no interest in Fischer Random or, in FIDE's nomenclature, Chess 960 or, in St. Louis Chess Club's nomenclature, Chess 9LX or, in my nomenclature, Chess 1111000000. So, if <Socrates> is interested in those, he can find out for himself. :-)
Besides, I had already informed him and <AdolphoAugusto> about today's starting date for the St. Louis Chess Club's Chess 9LX tournament in Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals (2020) (kibitz #424) and Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals (2020) (kibitz #389), so I was just reminding him.
Besides, re-informing him about today's start date of the St. Louis Chess Club's Chess 9LX tournament would have made my post longer, and I was trying to keep it short. ;-)
|Sep-11-20|| ||Pedro Fernandez: Thanks to <Sokrates> and <AylerKupp> by their well aimed information.|
I see that my great friend <monorovich> likes Fischer's chess. This class of ''Act Contra-Natura'' (Lol! <moro>, I just kidding!) everytime is being accepted for more people.
|Sep-12-20|| ||Sokrates: Dear <AylerKupp>, |
Has it crossed your mind that you may be a better recipient of harsh critics than good-willed response? :-)
Anyway, I hope you change your mind and bless us with your presence at the Champions Showdown.
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