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Jan-30-08 | | Riverbeast: Happy Birthday, Boris!
You will always be remembered as a great champion, and a wonderfully talented player. Perhaps more importantly, you were a gentleman and a great ambassador for the game of chess. |
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Jan-30-08 | | Gypsy: <Happy birthday, champ!> I second that. |
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Jan-30-08 | | mateifl: Happy Birthday to a great player ! |
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Jan-30-08 | | HNP: Boris Spassky was always my favourite player, ever since I read 'Fischer-Spassky, Move by Move' at the age of eight or nine! I sympathized with Boris in that match - Fischer was such a nasty, horrid man. I loved Boris's versatile style, especially his brilliant attacking play. It was with some shock that I learned, only recently, of Boris's appalling anti-Semitic behaviour a few years ago, for which he doesn't even have Fischer's excuse of being mad as a hatter. Although maybe calling for the abolition of Jewish organizations in a country you haven't lived in for 30 years is a sign of madness... Happy birthday anyway, Boris Vasilyevich. |
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Feb-01-08 | | Riverbeast: <HNP> I didn't know about Spassky signing that letter. I just read about it. A disappointment to say the least, I hadn't expected that from him. |
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Feb-02-08 | | brankat: Spassky in a new role: the Chief Arbiter of the Moscow Open! |
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Feb-02-08 | | slomarko: which letter are you talking about? |
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Feb-02-08 | | Zygote: Maybe the name should be changed to <borRis Spassky> as is given in Fischer's new book (if it is really by fischer) My 61 Memorable Games... |
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Feb-03-08 | | Zonszein: I thought he had appologized for that letter |
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Feb-05-08 | | brankat: He had. Apparently, if one can believe it, Spassky didn't even read the letter before signing it. Talking about being lazy :-) |
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Feb-05-08 | | slomarko: what letter did he sign????? |
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Feb-05-08 | | littlefermat: Apparently he's always been anti-semetic. In the book "The Endgame" By Dominic Lawson, it talks about the Short-Kasparov WCC of 1993. In it, there's a passage about how Short wanted to see if Spassky could give him some regular lessons (as both players had a similar style and approach), but Short quit shortly after because he couldn't stand Spassky's racist remarks about Jews. Sad, but true. |
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Feb-05-08 | | kellmano: I take anything Short says with a pinch of salt. Like Slomarko though, I have no idea what letter you are talking about. I like HNP's <he doesn't even have Fischer's excuse of being mad as a hatter.> |
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Feb-05-08 | | Billy Ray Valentine: Boris is anti-semitic? I've never heard that. I would be surprised if this is true I thought I read that one of his parents was Jewish. |
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Feb-05-08
 | | alexmagnus: He actually <did> sign "the letter of 5000". Even more, he was one of the first signers of it. never heard of an apology from him. |
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Feb-05-08
 | | alexmagnus: For those who don't know what letter it is about: here is its original text in Russian: http://www.pravaya.ru/expertopinion... |
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Feb-05-08 | | Billy Ray Valentine: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai... |
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Feb-05-08 | | MichAdams: Interesting letter. If I knew Russian, it might be even more so. |
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Feb-05-08 | | Riverbeast: People will almost always disappoint you...Spassky was one of the men I really looked up to in the chess world. It was rumored Spassky had a jewish parent, but apparently it's not true. Anti-Jewishness is endemic in Russia. They were always annoyed that most of their best players were Jews. |
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Feb-05-08 | | Zonszein: I even think that I would prefer not to have personaly met Beethoven or Mozart. To say anything about Spassky and Fischer.. These two seem to belong to the kind of people that you look up to, but better don't meet them Exactly the opposite like say: Kate Morgant, my coworker..she's not very brilliant (perhaps), but G.od! |
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Feb-05-08 | | tud: Spassky is not Jewish and this is not a sin, however being anti-semite is not a sin also, is just plain dangerous stupidity. |
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Feb-06-08 | | brankat: On many players' pages, including Spassky's, one often (too often) reads about "Jewish, Jewishness, anti-semitism" etc. Makes me wonder. A lot of French don't like Germans, Poles..Russians, Russians..Germans, Germans..Poles and Checks, English... French, French...English, Croats...Serbs, vice versa, Americans...Mexicans, vice...versa, Chinese...Japanese, vice ...versa, and on and on and on. Add to it all sorts or religious intolerances, hatreds. None of the above, except for some anti-American sentiment in last few years, is hardly ever mentioned around here, indeed, around anywhere. Only, and constantly: Jewish, anti-Jewish etc.
Why? After all there are hundreds upon hundreds of nations on this planet. Not any "worse", nor any "better". Holocaust? Others too, most notably all Slavs, especially Russians, fared the same, if not worse. So, then why? |
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Feb-06-08
 | | alexmagnus: <brankat> There are several reasons. First: the roots of <modern> anti-semitism can be traced back as far as 1150, I guess no other folk was encountered hate as much as Jews were. Second: religious background. While all other "conflicts" are pure nationalistic, many anti-semits attack not so much Jews as Judaism (somehow forgetting thereafter that not all Jews believe in Judaism...). Third: Jews are everywhere, while other folks mostly live in their states and are hardly seen outside of it. Even after Israel was grounded, there are much more Jews outside of the Jewish national state than inside it (has any other folk such a bizzarre constellation?). This third reason makes anti-semitism the only "global" type of a nation-based hate (together with hate against gypsies maybe, but gypsies are by far not as numerous as Jews...). These are the reason Jews and anti-semitism is discussed so much. BTW there is one more. No other folk, no matter how much hated, is a subject of conspiracy theories. |
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Feb-06-08 | | Tomlinsky: <brankat> Basically, if you carry the burdens of your anscestors with you everywhere that you go and impress their greater gravitas then it affords you the right to legitimately call criticism and opinion racism at any and every opportunity. Of course, it will now be pointed out that this is of course an anti-semitic statement and I am now eternally damned in their opinion. Funny old world isn't it? |
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Feb-06-08
 | | alexmagnus: <Tomlinsky> So you think anti-semitism exists only in the imagination of Jews? Funny opinion! A Jew myself, I can tell you it exists very much in reality. As well as all other minority hate. I beloong to way too many minorities to be told that hate against minorities doesn't exist:). |
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