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Dec-06-11 | | brankat: <Thrajin> Hello James! Long time no see :-) |
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Dec-06-11 | | nok: James Hatfeild ? |
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Dec-07-11 | | brankat: No. James <Thrajin> :-) |
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Dec-07-11
 | | HeMateMe: Great name. Sounds like a contest on "Hollywood Squares". He should have been in show biz. |
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Aug-06-12 | | e4 resigns: Gossip had a beard more epic than Chigorin!
Oh yeah, he was also a good chess player... |
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Aug-24-12 | | Cemoblanca: He's a mixture of Steinitz & Chigorin (& the only thing I want to point out here is the beard. The rest would be a silly gossip)! :D Chigorin ( |
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Aug-24-12
 | | HeMateMe: If he had a daughter, she'd be a <Gossip Girl>. |
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Aug-24-12 | | brankat: But this beauty is no gossip :-)
Showalter vs Gossip, 1889 |
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Aug-24-12 | | Cemoblanca: <HeMateMe> Gossip - EVERY CHESSPLAYER'S NIGHTMARE ;0) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397442/ |
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Apr-09-13 | | andrewjsacks: I before E, except in neighbor, sleigh, and George Hatfeild Gossip. |
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Apr-09-13 | | andrewjsacks: Actually, a very interesting character indeed, and the Wiki article on him is illuminating in various respects. |
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Mar-28-15 | | whiteshark: They say Gossip traveled faster than warp speed... |
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Apr-24-15
 | | Chessical: Zukertort on Gossip.— It is related of the late Dr. Zukertort that observing a young chess player poising Gossip's "Chess Players' Manual" on the palm of his hand, and overhearing him exclaim, " Ah, if I could only get the contents of this book into my head", the Doctor promptly retorted " Den you vould be as mad as de author." — Manchester Evening News." Source: <Nottinghamshire Guardian - Saturday 10th August 1889, p.7> |
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Dec-06-16 | | TheFocus: Happy birthday, George Gossip. |
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Apr-24-17
 | | Domdaniel: <(nothing rhymes with gossip.)> Ho's sip their drinks
While gentlemen slurp...
Beaus sip as well
And babies just burp. |
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May-27-17 | | zanzibar: http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/singl... |
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Jul-18-18
 | | offramp: He was asked to leave Simpson's Divan when his hat feild. |
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Jul-18-18
 | | offramp: <YouRang: "I before E, except after C or sounding like "A" as in neighbor or weigh -- or George Hatfeild Gossip"> It is all explained in this 4 minute sketch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDe... |
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Sep-23-18
 | | MissScarlett: Re. Hatfeild vs Hatfield George Hatfeild Gossip (kibitz #11) My guess is that he was born/baptised <Hatfield> but adopted <Hatfeild> at some point, just to be 'extra'. |
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Sep-23-18
 | | MissScarlett: From the bio: <While capable of extreme brilliance..> Is this necessary? What's wrong with plain <brilliance>? |
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Jul-18-19
 | | MissScarlett: <My guess is that he was born/baptised <Hatfield> but adopted <Hatfeild> at some point, just to be 'extra'.> <It is possible that G.H.D.G. adopted the idiosyncratic spelling for some extra cachet.> (17 July 2019: Addition from Neil Hickman (Hardingham, England)) http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Apr-11-23 | | Nosnibor: Gossip had a good record against Bird 5 wins and only 1 loss. It would seem that Bird was somehow affected by Gossip`s behavior whilst playing. |
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Jun-05-23 | | TwoMinutesToMidnight: founder of Gossip? lol |
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Jun-05-23
 | | MissScarlett: A marriage record for the parish of St. Brelade in Jersey, where George wed Alicia Kenny, an Irishwoman, on October 3rd 1868, twice gives <Hatfield,> including the bridegroom's own signature. His profession is <Foreign Correspondent.> |
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Jun-06-23
 | | MissScarlett: <London Daily Chronicle & Clerkenwell News>, July 29th 1871, p.5: <MIDDLEMAS V. WILMER - A TURF TRANSACTION.The plaintiff in this case, Andrew Middlemas, 5, Cross-street, Essex-road, sued the defendant, Mr. George Wilmer, of 8, Mayfield-terrace, Dalston, for £3, balance of wages. - The defendant was represented by a solicitor, and the plaintiff conducted his own case. Plaintiff said he was engaged by defendant at £4 per week for two weeks, and £2 10s. for a fortnight afterwards as clerk to book bets. He did not make the bets. Defendant's solictor submitted to his Honour that this was an illegal transaction, and that consequently the plaintiff could not recover. His Honour said he could not hold that it was an illegal transaction. If a man employed another to make a bet for him, the latter could recover the amount he had expended, although the former could not sue for the bet. That had been decided by the Master of the Rolls in the Marquis of Hastings' case. Plaintiff said the defendant had paid him £4, £2, £1 10s., and £2 10s., making £10 altogether, leaving a balance of £3 now sued for. In cross-examination he said he would swear he had not received as much as £20 from defendant, but only the amounts he had stated. He did not ask defendant to continue him in his service, and he would not go into it again if he gave him £20. Defendant gave him £4 to buy clothes with, but that he had mentioned. He also paid plaintiff's travelling expenses, as that had nothing to do with his salary. Defendant said when he engaged plaintiff the understanding was that he should receive £4 the first week, and if he did not succeed in winning plaintiff money it was to be reduced to £2 10s. afterwards. He did not win any money, and the salary was accordingly reduced and paid regularly every week. The plaintiff had lost as much as £110 for defendant in the four weeks. Defendant had only been on the turf a few months, and he was determined not to go on a racecourse again as long as he lived. The plaintiff never won a penny for him, although he said he should be sure to win. He always treated the plaintiff liberally, and gave him £2 to buy clothes with, as he was so shabby as not to be presentable. He had paid plaintiff all that was due to him. The plaintiff had behaved shamefully, and called defendant a thief and a liar in the "ring," and advised persons not to pay him any bets. He considered that the plaintiff owed him money instead of his owing plaintiff, and that the present action was only an attempt to extort money, and in fact to rob him. His Honour said he was satisfied the plaintiff had been paid all the defendant agreed to give him. He should give judgment for defendant, with costs.> There's very good reason to believe that George Wilmer was, in fact, Gossip. The embarrassing nature of the case being the obvious motive to use an alias. In the 1871 census (taken on April 2nd), the Gossip family (George, wife Alicia, son George and two servants) were living at 8 Mayfield Road, Hackney. However, a <George D H Gossip> joined a Freemasons' Lodge in London in October 1871 and the address is recorded as 8 Mayfield Terrace - the same as that given for George Wilmer above (Dalston, one should note, being part of Hackney). It wasn't unknown then for a street to be comprised of sections of housing, separately built, called Terrace, Row or the like. That alone constitutes good evidence but confirmation comes in the shape of <Burke's Family Records>, a late 19th century compendium of British nobility and gentry. The Gossip family have their own arms, crest and motto - the later being <Expertus Credo>. The exact sense of which escapes me but Google reveals it was the motto of <Wilmer, George (1582 - 1626)> https://armorial.library.utoronto.c.... Delving into the lineage of the Gossips, a daughter of a later George Wilmer married into the family. |
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