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| Apr-03-06 | | BIDMONFA: Gyula Breyer BREYER, Gyula
http://www.bidmonfa.com/breyer_gyul...
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| Apr-23-06 | | percyblakeney: Breyer's best tournament:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/cserica/s... |
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Apr-23-06
 | | Sneaky: <offramp:> Oy!! That puzzle makes my head hurt! |
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| Mar-15-07 | | Ziggurat: Gyula Breyer was one of the most extreme players in terms of opening ideas - maybe *the* most extreme in competition with Duncan Suttles. As is well known, he dismissed 1 e4 (although he often used it himself); he also thought 1...d5 against 1 d4 was a serious error, preferring 1...Nf6. He believed 2 d3 was the correct response to the French, Caro-Kann and Sicilian, and that the only good response to 1 e4 was 1...e6. During his short life, he introduced or developed the following variations (as well as many others) - The Breyer variation of the Ruy Lopez (9..Nb8)
- The Budapest gambit, 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e5
(he played it in 1916)
- d3 against the Caro-Kann, 1 e4 c6 2 d3
- Accelerated dragon, where he found 7...Ng4; 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 g6 5 c4 Bg7 6 Be3 Nf6 7 Nc3 Ng4, see also Reti vs Breyer, 1920 - The Richter-Rauser variation in the Sicilian, 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 d6 6 Bg5 (he played it about 20 years before Richter did) - Breyer Gambit 1 e4 e5 2 f4 exf4 3 Qf3
- The variation 1 d4 d5 2 Nc3
- The variation 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 d6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 d4 Nbd7 5 Bc4 h6 in the Philidor |
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| Jun-02-07 | | parisattack: I was told Jimmy Adams was preparing a major tome on Breyer. Anyone aware of this true/false and if the former, status? The Breyer Gambit - David Lonsdale has written a short but interesting monograph on it...I think it is reviewed on the Chessville website. |
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| Jun-03-07 | | FHBradley: <Gyula Breyer [...] dismissed 1 e4 (although he often used it himself); he also thought 1...d5 against 1 d4 was a serious error, preferring 1...Nf6. He believed 2 d3 was the correct response to the French, Caro-Kann and Sicilian, and that the only good response to 1 e4 was 1...e6.> Why did he promote such silly ideas? What's the point of being unorthodox, when being unorthodox implies, as it does in this case, being plainly wrong? |
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| Jun-03-07 | | Ziggurat: <FHBradley> I see what you are saying, but let me defend Mr. Breyer through a couple of points. 1. His eccentric ideas about some moves do not change the fact that he was a very influential opening innovator, with many deep (and correct!) ideas to his name (see my previous post, which is only a partial list). 2. I think it is likely that he exaggerated for effect, since he clearly used many of the moves that he condemned. He also didn't really "promote" these ideas, but only wrote them down in one or a couple of articles in his obscure magazine "Szellemi Sport", and/or in other game annotations. 3. He was not alone in his time in having silly ideas about the very first opening moves. Alekhine dismissed the Sicilian, saying white could get a forced edge. And that master of orthodoxy, Tarrasch, had some absurd ideas, for instance that the Tarrasch defence was the only correct way of meeting the queen's gambit, and that the advance French was much better for black. 4. Breyer is not even alone in his (admittedly eccentric) dismissal of 1. e4. Hans Berliner, a former World Correspondence Chess Champion and chess computer developer, has written an entire book ("The system") which purports to prove that 1. d4 is the only correct opening move. |
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Jun-03-07
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <I think it is likely that he exaggerated for effect, since he clearly used many of the moves that he condemned.> Yes, I agree. I do that, too, sometimes. I guess I can only afford it because of the weak skills of my opponents. <Breyer is not even alone in his (admittedly eccentric) dismissal of 1. e4.> Read the last part of my user profile ;-) 1.e4 is, to put it plainly, a horrible weakening and, with accurate play, Black should be able to exploit this weakness and gain a comfortable edge. I guess 1.e4 fitted well the time when people just wanted their pieces on the board quickly, and finish off the game with a series of brutal sacrifices. But if modern experts can't do better than 1.e4?, then there's something very wrong with the game of chess. |
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| Jun-03-07 | | whiskeyrebel: It was inevitable a school of thought arose to challenge the status quo of chess. It happened in many other fields of thought, art and endeavor during Breyer's prime. Too bad he died so young. |
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| Apr-03-08 | | brankat: Looking back, G.Breyer's very much premature death, at the age of 27, was one of the greatest losses Chess has ever suffered. Such a great talent, an extraordinary explorer/innovator, an immensly rich and un-tapped potential. Possibly in the class of a Steinitz, a Tarrasch, a Nimzowitsch/Reti, an Alekhine etc. Aside from theoretical aspects, Breyer's victory in the great Berlin Tournament, 1920 (see the Bio) showed a brilliant potential of a practical/competitive player. |
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| Apr-03-08 | | whiskeyrebel: To thoughtfully scratch the surface at my level what 30 more years of Breyer might have given us I'd need a Schiller-sized coffee, a corner to think in for an hour or so and I still might need an emergency telephone hookup to GM Keene. |
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| Jul-16-08 | | myschkin: "Breyer and the Last Throes"
(by Edward Winter)
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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| Sep-09-08 | | sneaky pete: From Kagan's Neueste Schachnachrichten, April 1922.
Der tote Breyer
Gedenkworte von Dr. S.G. Tartakower
Mit dem am 10. November 1921 in Bratislawa (Preßburg) von einem tückischen jahrelangen Herzleiden dahingerafften Gyala (sic) Breyer ist uns nicht nur einer der genialsten Jungmeister, sondern auch eine durch Seelenadel und Herzensgüte verklärte Persönlichkeit geraubt worden! Witwe und Kind betrauern den erst 28jährigen, der übrigens auch im Privatberuf als Ingenieur und Leiter eines großen Industrie-unternehmens in seiner (ursprünglich ungarischen, nunmehr tschechoslowakischen) Heimat Hervorragendes leistete. Als Schachspieler war Julius Breyer ein tiefer Denker, dem beim Ausbau des neoromantischen Spielprinzips eine prominente Rolle zufällt, da die moderne Theorie ihm eine Menge von neuen Anregungen und Erleuchtungen verdankt. Man denke nur an das so berühmt gewordene Budapester Gambit (1.d4 Sf6 2.c4 e5!), das er im Verein mit Istvan Abonyi der Schachwelt geschenkt hatte, wie er denn überhaupt oft schon durch allererste Züge (z.B.: 1.e4 e6 2.d3) seinen Partien das Originalgepräge der modernistischen Spielweisen verlieh. Von ihm stammt ferner der (von Réti ausgearbeitete) Damenzug 3.Df3 im angenommenen Königsgambit und auch schon vor Niemzowitsch stürzte er sich oft mit 1... Sc6 (auf 1.e4) in den Ocean (sic) des schachlichen Gruselns hinein. Im Damenbauernspiel klügelte er hingegen eine ganz eigenartige stonewallmäßige Eröffnungsbehandlung heraus uns schließlich wußte er auch dem sonst verpönten Zug 2.Sc3 (nach 1.d4 d5) interessante Seiten abzugewinnen. Daß er dabei aber auch als Spielpraktikus wundersamste Kombinationenen hervorzauberte, beweist unter anderem folgende Glanzpartie aus dem Mannh. Meisterturnier 1914: Breyer vs Tarrasch, 1914
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Nachstehend sei noch ein Kabinettstück seiner breitausholenden Startegie angeführt, gespielt in einem Lokalturnier zu Budapest 1917, wo er sich - wie so oft! - den I. Preis in eklatanter Weise holte. Breyer vs J Esser, 1917
Breyer's theoretische Verdienste wurden schon oben gewürdigt und es wäre nur noch seiner Wirksamkeit als Leiter der Schachspalte in einem ungarischen Blatte ("Bécsi Magyar Ujság") zu gedenken, wobei er für den grundsätzlichen Aufbau und die schachphilosophische Vertiefung der neuromantischen Spielrichtung Unvergängliches leistete. Brillante Essays wurden vom ihm auch für eine eigenartige, vom ihm selbst gegründete Zeitschrift geliefert, welch letzere nicht nur Schach, sondern auch allen modernen mathematisch-spielerischen Emanationen des menschlichen Geistes gewidmet war. Wenn wir am Schlusse noch hervorheben, daß Breyer mit seinem in Kaschau, Januar 1921, aufgestellten Weltrekord von 25 Blindlingspartien auch auf diesem Reservatgebiete sein Genie bekundete, so erhellt es aus obigen Erörterungen, daß wir in dem so frühzeitig Dahingeschiedenen nicht nur persönlich einen bescheidenen und liebwerten Menschen, sondern auch schachlich eine Kraft allerersten Ranges zu vermissen haben. Möge sein Andenken den kommenden Schachgenerationen erhalten bleiben! |
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| Feb-28-09 | | M.D. Wilson: Gyula Breyer died from heart disease at the age of only 27! If he had been around today, his life could have been prolonged. |
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| Apr-03-09 | | JaneEyre: Not for long, <M.D.Wilson>, he'd be 115 years old. |
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| Apr-03-09 | | WhiteRook48: Happy birthday! |
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| Apr-03-09 | | Phorqt: One of the books my dad gave me long ago was his old copy of Reti's Modern Ideas In Chess wherein Reti speaks of Breyer with great reverence and admiration. According to RR's characterization Breyer was a truly fanatic puzzle-nut and chess was only one of his myriad intellecetual pursuits. Certainly not all of his conceptions were sound but he died before he got his chance to fully develop as a player. Could he have been champ? Probably not due to all the fierce practical competition during his period. I think it's more likely that he would have gone as Reti himself did-more of a puzzle solver/composer than a competitor, but who knows? Either way he was definitely a profound thinker and experimenter. He was always an enemy of convention and it's too bad he left so soon. Reti went so far as to say that a new Steinitz was snached away from us and he'd sure have known better than I... |
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| Apr-03-09 | | Dredge Rivers: I love his ice cream! |
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| Apr-09-09 | | TheTamale: As we are now in 2009, I think it would be fine if someone wanted to post the answer to Breyer's problem as posted by <offramp.> It's certainly over my head, esp. pre-coffee. |
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| Apr-03-10 | | wordfunph: happy birthday El Maestro Gyula Breyer! |
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| Apr-03-10 | | talisman: happy b'day Gyula...Breyer's Line is one great idea. |
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| Apr-05-10 | | sneaky pete: In answer to an earlier post, here's a game I found in an old magazine. [White "WannaBe"]
[Black "technical draw"]
1.e4 c5 2.Ke2!! Qb6 3.Kd3 Qb3+ 4.axb3 Nf6 5.Kc4 Nd5 6.Kb5 Nc3+ 7.dxc3 a5 8.Kb6 Nc6 9.Qd5 Ne5 10.Qc6 dxc6 11.Kc7 Be6 12.Bb5 Bc4 13.Ba4 Bb5 14.Ne2 Nc4 15.bxc4 g5 16.Bb3 g4 17.Ra4 g3 18.Rb4 a4 19.Nf4 gxh2 20.g4 Ra5 21.g5 f6 22.g6 Bh6 23.g7 Kf7 24.Nd5 Rha8 25.g8=R R8a6 26.Ra8 Rb6 27.Ra6 Ke8 28.Kb8 Bf4+ 29.Ka8 Bb8 30.Bf4 Ba7 31.Bb8 Kd7 32.Re1 h1=Q 33.Nc7 Qg1 34.e5 Qh1 35.e6+ Kd6 36.Re5 fxe5 37.f4 Qg1 38.f5 Qh1 39.f6 Qg1 40.f7 Qh1 41.f8=Q Qg1 42.Qf1 Qh1 43.Nd2 Qg1 44.Qa1 Qh1 45.Qa3 Qg1 46.Ba2 Qh1 47.Nb3 Qa1 48.Bb1 Qa2 49.Na1 Qb3 50.Qa2 a3 51.Ra4 Qb4 52.Qb3 a2 
click for larger view53.Qa3 Qb3 54.Rb4 Ra4 55.Ra5 Ba6 56.Rab5 Ra5 57.Qa4 Qa3 58.Rb3 Qb4 59.Qa3 Ra4 60.Ra5 Qb5 61.Qb4 Ra3 62.Ra4 Qa5 63.Qb5 Qb4 64.Qa5 Bb5 65.Qa6 Qa5 66.Rab4 Ba4 67.Qb5 Ra6 68.Qb6 Bb5 69.Ra4 Qb4 70.Ra5 Qa4 71.Rb4 Qb3 72.Raa4 Ra5 73.Qa6 Bb6 74.Qa7 Ra6 75.Ra5 Ba4 76.Rab5 Ba5 77.Rb6 Bb5 78.Ra4 Bb4 79.Ra5 Ba4 80.Rbb5 Rb6 81.Ra6 Ba5 82.Rb4 Bb5 83.Ra4 Bb4 84.R6a5 Ba6 85.Rb5 Ba5 86.Rab4 Qa4 87.Rb3 Bb4 88.Ra5 Qb5 89.Ra4 Ba5 90.Rbb4 Rb3 91.Ra3 Qa4 92.Rb5 Bb4 93.Ra5 Bb5 94.Ra6 Qa5 95.Ra4 Ba3 96.Rb4 Ba4 97.Rb5 Qb4 98.Raa5 Ra6 99.Rb6 Bb5 100.Ra4 Qa5 101.Rb4 Ba4 102.R4b5 Qb4 
click for larger viewand here black claimed a technical draw on account of the 50 moves rule. A narrow escape! |
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| Apr-05-10 | | technical draw: Wait a minute <sneaky pete>. Now everyone is going to think that <WannaBe> actually managed to get a draw from me! Using the WannaBe gambit no less! Can't have that. I have a reputation to conserve. |
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Apr-05-10
 | | WannaBe: Isn't he one of the Supreme Court Justices?!?! |
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| Oct-19-10 | | rapidcitychess: I saw an article on www.chess.com about him and WOW! I wish I could see all of his games! Article:http://www.chess.com/article/view/t... Pretty stuff, eh? |
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