Aug-03-23
 | | perfidious: Embarras de richesse; there are, in essence, two versions of this POTD, both of which begin with the obvious 14.Bxf7+ Kxf7 15.Qd5+ Kxf6. Many Whites will see that the queen can be won by 16.Bg5+, but there would remain much to do. The stronger option resides in 16.Qg5+ Kf7 17.Qf5+ Qf6 18.Ng5+ Kg8, when White can play 19.Qxf6 which wins, but 19.Re8+ also spells ruination. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Brenin: I first tried 14 Bxf7+ Kxf7 15 Qd5+ Kxf6 16 Qg5+, but wasn't sure there was a mate, so I went back and tried the more prosaic 14 Qd5, which forces N(either)e5 and then 15 Nxe5 leads to a quick mate. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Mayankk: I was able to figure out the first few moves but had trouble calculating it all the way to mate. 14 Bxf7+ Kxf7. Now White had two choices. 15 Qd5+ Kxf6 16 Bg5+ gaining the Queen or else 15 Ng5+ Kxf6 ( 15 ... Kg8 16 Qd5#) 16 Qf3+ Nf4 17 Qxf4+ etc. I would have probably chosen the easier 16 Bg5+ approach. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Let's see: 14. Bxf7+ Kxf7 15. Qd5+ Kxf6 16. Qg5+ Kf7 17. Qf5+ (Kg8 18. Qd5#) Qf6 18. Ng5+ Kg8 19. Qxf6 and mate next. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Allderdice83: Totally missed 16. Qg5+ (I had the weaker 16. Bg5+ of course). The point is after 16.Qg5+ Kf7 17.Qf5+ Kg8, there is 18. Qd5#. Even after 17 ... Qf6, White refuses to settle for "just" winning the queen but insists on, and gets, a quick checkmate. |
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Aug-03-23
 | | al wazir: 14. Qd5 seems to do the job too. If 14...Qxf6, then 15. Re8+ wins. 14...Ne5 (either knight) loses at least a piece, while leaving white in a commanding position. If 14...Bxf2+, then 15. Kh1, and mate is still threatened. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | mel gibson: Easy today.
SF 16 chooses a different line and says:
14. Qd5
(14. Qd5 (Qd1-d5 Ng6-e5 Nf3xe5 Nc6xe5 Qd5xe5 Bb6xf2+ Kg1xf2
Qd8xf6+ Qe5xf6 d7-d5 Re1-e8+) +M6/129 14)
White wins_ mate in 6.
If I force SF to play the game line it's mate in 7: 14. Bxf7+ Kxf7
(14. .. Kxf7 (Kg8xf7 Qd1-d5+ Kf7xf6 Qd5-g5+ Kf6-f7
Qg5-f5+ Qd8-f6 Nf3-g5+ Kf7-g8 Re1-e8+ Ng6-f8 Re8xf8+ Qf6xf8 Qf5xf8+)
-M7/102 15)
White wins_ mate in 7. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | jrredfield: I selected the game move 14 Bxf7+. As others have said, there is more than one move leading to mate rather quickly: Mate in 6:
14 Qd5 Nce5 15 Nxe5 Bxf2+ 16 Kh1 Nxe5 17 Qxe5 Qf8 18 Qg5+ Qg7 19 Qxg7# Mate in 8:
14 Bxf7+ Kxf7 15 Qd5+ Kxf6 16 Qg5+ Kf7 17 Qf5+ Qf6 18 Ng5+ Kg8 19 Re8+ Nf8 20 Rxf8+ Qxf8 21 Qxf8# 14 Ng5 Nge5 15 Nxf7 d5 16 Nxd8 Nxd8 17 Rxe5 Bxf2+ 18 Kxf2 Be6 19 Qxd5 Bxd5 20 Bxd5+ Nf7 21 Rg5# |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Cecco: I like the way to win without sacrificing anything (14. Qd5). For the same reason instead of 10.Nf6+ I would have played (perhaps) Neg5, even if I hadn't realized that after 10.Nf6+ gxf6 11.exf6 the position is drawn with 11....d5. |
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Aug-03-23
 | | scormus: W's position has everything one might hope for when playing the Max Lange. My first thought was the thematic 14 Qd5, but Bxf7+ first was too enticing. Also, perhaps for the player. 16 Bg5+ is obviously completely winning, but Qg5+ is more decisive and more classy.
I admit to not seeing the neat manoeuvre on moves 17, 18 to force the attractive mate. Well spotted those who did, and credit to B for letting it. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Vermit: 15. Ng5+seems at least as good |
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| Aug-03-23 | | jffun1958: 5-mate:
14. Qd5 Bxf2+ 15. Kxf2 Nce5 16. Rxe5 Qf8 17. Qxf7+ Qxf7 18. Re8+
Nf8 19. Rxf8# |
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| Aug-03-23 | | agb2002: White is one knight down.
The pawn on f7 is defenseless. Therefore, 14.Qd5: A) 14... Qxf6 15.Re8+ Nf8 16.Rxf8#.
B) 14... Nce5 15.Rxe5 Nxe5 16.Nxe5 Qxf6 17.Qxf7+ Qxf7 18.Bxf7#. C) 14... Bxf2+ 15.Kh1 Bxe1 16.Rxe1 just delays the disaster. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | saturn2: <16 Bg5+ is obviously completely winning>
I think you missed that at the puzzle position white was already a knight behind. So your 16.Bg5 ends in 3 minor pieces for the queen. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Lambda: I somehow managed to miss all mates and just end up with queen against two pieces: 14.Bxf7+ Kxf7 15.Ng5+ Kxf6 16.Qf3+ Nf4 17.Qxf4+ Kg6 18.Nf7 Qf6 19.Nxh8+ Qxh8 20.Qg5+ Kf7 21.Qh5+ Kf6 22.Bg5+ Kg7 23.Re8 trapping the queen in the corner. |
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Aug-03-23
 | | alexrawlings: I went for for <14 Qe2> which my chess engine informs me fails to mate but with best play leaves white ahead +6 |
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Aug-03-23
 | | Teyss: This is a real Wednesday/Thursday level because one has to calculate three possible lines (14.Bxf7+, Qd5 and Cg5), then find 15.Qd5+ (15.Ng5+ is not as efficient) and 16.Qg5+ instead of 16.Bg5+. Yes, the game line only includes checks but it's possible to go astray and indeed, some did (kudos for their honesty). As pointed out by <saturn2> 16.Bg5+ just leads to approximate equality despite the fact the BK is exposed: surprisingly, White cannot take immediate advantage of it (+0.3 at 34 ply). |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Fiddlerookie: I tried 14. Ng5 which I thought of as a more cautious transposition preparing for the text's Bf7+ which then becomes the mate that must be interfered with at all costs. Stockfish calls that move mate in 7 (not 8 as <Redfield> says, to quibble) but overall it's remarkable how many lines there are here that spell disaster for Black. On a more whimsical note - I note this is the only Wielandt game in the DB. Title suggestion: "Wielandt Overthrow"? |
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| Aug-03-23 | | saturn2: White played brilliant later on but 3.Nf3 was poor. Black gets advantage by 3....Nxe4.
3.d3 is better. Me play 3.d4 in online rapid against lower rated opponents leading to quick wins sometimes. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Besrqe: This is one of those positions where, even though White has invested a piece, Black is so behind in development it's a question of, "What doesn't win?" Here's another winning move in the puzzle position that wasn't mentioned and my favorite line (See White's 19th and 20th move). It's all a flurry of desperados on Black's part which leaves him helpless with more desperados on the way :D 14. Qb3 d5 15. Bxd5 Be6 16. Rxe6 Nb4 17. Bc4 Bxf2+ 18. Kxf2 b5 19. Rd6! Nd3+ 20. Rxd3 Qxf6 21. Qxb5 |
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Aug-03-23
 | | Honza Cervenka: 14.Qd5 wins instantly: 14.Qd5 Nge5 15.Rxe5 Nxe5 16.Nxe5 Qe8 17.Qxf7+ Qxf7 18.Bxf7#. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | Hercdon: Nice and easy. I love these games that finish up with a big dance by the Queen. |
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Aug-03-23
 | | Diocletian: 14. Qd5, my first and final conclusion. Almost elegant. |
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| Aug-03-23 | | get Reti: 16.g4 also leads to a forced mate |
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Kibitzing
sac: 10.Nf6+
