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Magnus Carlsen vs Vladimir Kramnik
Norway Chess (2016), Stavanger NOR, rd 7, Apr-27
Queen's Gambit Declined: Exchange. Positional Variation (D35)  ·  1-0

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Apr-28-16  geigermuller: As it will be clear from my question, this game is above me: Why not 13. ..., f5, which would chase the a-knight? I understand it locks up the bishop, but that seems temporary.
Apr-28-16
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  keypusher: <Geigermuller: As it will be clear from my question, this game is above me: Why not 13. ..., f5, which would chase the a-knight? I understand it locks up the bishop, but that seems temporary.>

Well, if Black plays ...f5 on move 13 White can just take the pawn. But I'd love to know why Black can't play ...f5 on move 12.

Apr-28-16  LeyenChess64: This guy is crazy! In the past, Karpov was called "snake" by the way he won his games, little by little. Now, Carlsen is the new "snake".
Apr-28-16
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  chancho: Geez, what arrogance!

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Apr-28-16  Eyal: Well, there doesn't seem to be any direct refutation of 12...f5 - maybe it's better than what Kramnik did. But it's understandable why the prospect of blocking the bishop isn't very appealing, and the knight on h4 doesn't have to retreat; there's 13.g3, and in case of 13...Bxh4 14.gxh4 with the other knight coming to f4 it looks rather nice for White. Something similar actually happened in one of the blitz tournament games (Aronian vs Harikrishna, 2016), where White tried another novelty on move 12 (Kd2).
Apr-28-16  mkrk17: Nce play by carlsen, dominating the position just by using the f5 square. Awesome positional play !!
Apr-28-16  geigermuller: <keypusher> yeah, sorry, I meant 12.
Apr-28-16  Ulhumbrus: If Black is lost after 13 Ng3 that move counts as a threat and Black is then compelled to try 12...f5.
Apr-28-16  activechess55: If black plays f5 then White can take h4 knight to f3. If now black knight goes to f6, white knight would go to e5 . Then white can play f4 and take another knight to f3 via g1. Now in a closed centre position white knight gain dominant heights whereas black bishop pair does not have open position to operate.

If instead of taking knight to f6, black takes bishop to f6 then knight at d7 and bishop at g6 are in slighty bad position.

Apr-28-16  activechess55: After white knight goes to e5 and he gets opportunity to play f4, he might like to take knight to d3 via c1. That might be even more effective. Off course these move orders can change. I mean, after knight f3 then knight c1 and knight d3 etc.
Apr-28-16
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  Sally Simpson: I see the gang are still fawning and gushing over this win. A good game yes. But for those trying to elevate it to something new and original then wise up.

Carlsen's position was so good from the opening it would be hard not to win. Black had zilch counter play. Kramnik was not Kramnik and Carlsen did not hit 3rd gear.

This pawn formation.


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Suggests you get a Knight to f5 and win.

The Knight set up Carslen used to conquer this square.


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Has been known since in 1878.

Mackenzie vs J Mason, 1878

(Same pawn formation, same Knight set up and also a good game.)

And has appeared in countless games since then and long before this one.

Apr-28-16
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  chancho: <Sally> Let them fawn and gush.

Besides, Mackenzie and Mason are scrubs compared to Carlsen and Kramnik.

:-)

Apr-28-16  Pulo y Gata: Sally, we all know chess is <that> easy.
Apr-30-16  CountryGirl: Thanks for the input, Shams and Eyal! I was going by Cox's book Declining the QGD, & wasn't aware of the more recent action in this variation. As you note, some strong players have tried it occasionally since 2011 and some have even won. Vlad himself drew with Ding Liren and beat Ivanisevic in a rapid game (which may be why Carlsen was prepared for him?) Still and all, probably not a great choice against MC...
May-04-16  Howard: This game was annotated on Chessbase just yesterday, by Jon Speelman.
May-10-16  LeyenChess64: Sweet!
Jul-10-16
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  MissScarlett: <That was just bad luck. It happens very rarely these days that you essentially close a line that had been played for dozens of years. It was regarded as solid, and now you cannot play it anymore. Once I saw Ne2, which for me is definitely the novelty of the year, I knew I had a choice between a very unpleasant endgame, which is especially unpleasant against him, and going for some concrete play in the hope it would work, but I lost without a fight.>

Kramnik, quoted in <NIC>, 2016/4, p.20.

Aug-17-16  yurikvelo: http://pastebin.com/xg0z3RpJ

this game multiPV

Mar-29-18  madlydeeply: doubled pawns aren't a weakness for Carlsen
Mar-29-18
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  beenthere240: They're part of his armamentarium.
Dec-05-19  ndg2: This is one of the cleanest positional wins ever against any GM, but winning like this against Kramnik came quite to a shock to me. It seemed like there wasn't even any fight. The 6..Bf5 line became unplayable afterwards.
Dec-06-19
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  perfidious: <ndg2>, see my kibitz of 27.04.16--even before the 1981 game I played in this, 6....Bf5 was known to offer little--Samarian wrote on the line in the mid 1970s in his monograph on the Queen's Gambit.
Dec-06-19  SChesshevsky: <...winning like this against Kramnik came quite to a shock to me. It seemed like there wasn't even any fight...>

Seems Kramnik tried to be tricky and catch Carlsen with something a bit offbeat. Unfortunately, Carlsen was well prepared for this line, as per Speelman's analysis mentioned above. Unluckily for Kramnik, Carlsen probably even got a memory nudge in the lines by reviewing Aronian - Harikrishna Norway Blitz about a week before.

Kramnik probably could feel his idea backfired by 12. Ne2, as per his comment, and struggled to find some sort of complications. Apparently there weren't any obvious ones as Speelman mentioned Kramnik was having time troubles already around move 20 or so.

Dec-06-19  Carrots and Pizza: Carlson plays exceptionally well with his knights. Other players who also play well with their knights are Chigorin and Capablanca, as well as Steinitz and Nimzowitsch.
Dec-06-19
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  OhioChessFan: 47. h5 is beautiful.
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