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Svetozar Gligoric vs Holze
"White Elephant" (game of the day Sep-01-2014)
Simul (1970) (exhibition), Hamburg FRG
Elephant Gambit: Paulsen Countergambit (C40)  ·  0-1

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Sep-01-14
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  offramp: The advice was addressed to the amateur.
Sep-01-14
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Donner's right for both simultaneous play and in tournament play against an opponent so much higher rated than you that you don't have any realistic chances. So why not go for broke? At worst, your GM opponent will be sufficiently inspired to win one of his 60 Memorable Games (Fischer vs O Celle, 1964). And if you don't go for broke, you'll never know if you could have shocked the world and the world champion so much that they name the variation you played in your honor (Steinitz vs McCutcheon, 1885).
Sep-01-14  morfishine: Holze in White's position leads to a mammoth attack

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Sep-01-14
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  Once: The contrasting fates of bishops on adjacent diagonals. Black's bishop pair decide the game - white's do nothing.

I suppose the bottom line is that your bishops need to be aimed at something?

Sep-01-14
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  FSR: Two puns in a row for me. Game Collection: Puns I submitted
Sep-01-14
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  Penguincw: I'm pretty sure white was already lost, but 19.Bd3 Bxd3+ 20.Rxd3 Nxd3 does allow white to last a little longer, even though he's down a rook for pawn.
Sep-01-14
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  offramp: As it's the first of the month <"White Rabbits"> might have been part of the neuro-nexual semiotics synapsing through <FSR>'s colossal mental cyberbase.
Sep-01-14
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  offramp: How do we request more GOTD puns from <POSOO>?

He or she did a brilliant Flohr/Floor one a few days ago.

Sep-01-14
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  FSR: A few Houdini 3-aided notes: <1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d5 3. exd5 e4> For 3...Bd6 4.d4 e4 5.Ne5, see the astonishing upset T Sakelsek vs P Corbin, 2004. <4. Qe2! Nf6> For 4...f5, see the amazing Tal vs Lutikov, 1964. <5. Nc3 Be7 6. Nxe4 O-O 7. d3?!> Better is 7. Nxf6+ Bxf6 8. d4 Qxd5 9. Be3 Nc6 10. c3 Bg4 11. h3 Bh5 12. Qd1 +0.52. <7... Re8 8. Bd2 Nxd5 9. O-O-O Be6?!> Better is 9... f5!, virtually winning a piece by force. <10. Kb1 Nc6 11. Nc3 Bf6?> 11... Nxc3+! 12. Bxc3 Bg5! 13. Nxg5 Bxa2+ 14. Kxa2 Rxe2 15. Bxe2 Qxg5 16. Bf3 Qc5 -1.08 <12. Nxd5?> White is still better after 12. Ne4. <12... Qxd5> -0.68 <13. c4 Qd6 14. Be3> 14. Bg5 Bg4 15. Qd2 Nd4 is large advantage Black. <14... b5! 15. Qc2?!> Weak, but White is already in big trouble, e.g. 15. cxb5 Bxa2+! 16. Kxa2 (16. Kc1 Nd4) (16. Ka1 Qa3 17. d4 Qa4 ) 16...Qd5+ 17. Kb1 Nb4 18. Kc1 Qa2 19. d4 c5 20. bxc6 Rab8 . Better is 15. Bg5 Bf5 16. Qd2 bxc4 17. Bxf6 Qxf6 large advantage Black. <15... Nb4 16. Qc1 bxc4 17. dxc4 Qa6 18. a3 Bf5+ 19. Ka1 Qxa3#> 0-1
Sep-01-14
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  FSR: <offramp> A couple of months ago I got a biography of Philip Corbin of Barbados, a devotee of the Elephant Gambit, which inspired me to nominate some Elephants for GOTD, including Corbin's T Sakelsek vs P Corbin, 2004 ("Elephantiasis"). Seriously, don't miss that one. It inspired me one night to attempt to play Elephant Gambits in all my online blitz games. I never did succeed, since all my White opponents played either 1.d4 or the Bishop's Opening. I first saw this game, another that makes the Elephant look good, in MCO-11 circa 1973. Being about 1400 at the time, I couldn't figure out where White went wrong.

I happened to think of the phrase "white elephant" a few days ago, and immediately thought of this game, an Elephant where White gets the "white elephant" of extra material, but gets crushed.

Sep-01-14  morfishine: <FSR> Isn't there a separate Elephant Opening where White moves all his pawns 1-square to the third rank? Or is that a "trunkated" version of the elephant Gambit proper?

<Offramp> Your sarcasm kills me

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Sep-01-14
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  FSR: <morfishine> You're confusing your critters. If one moves all one's pawns to the third rank, that's a Hippopotamus, not an Elephant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippo... http://www.chess.com/forum/view/che...
Sep-01-14  ljfyffe: The neat thing about the Internet is that you can shoot an Elephant in your pajamas. Sorry ..... Groucho. Or, I could say:"There will always be an Englund! " This time, sorry .... to everyone.
Sep-01-14
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  perfidious: <ljfyffe> No need--your pun is more amusing than some which pass for humour here.
Sep-01-14  morfishine: <FSR> Yes, of course, I was thinking of the Hippopotamus Opening. Thanks for the refresher, I looked and looked and looked...

Now, to go work on the Wildebeest Opening :)

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Sep-02-14  ljfyffe: <morfishine> "leads to a mammoth attack" -must be an OLD line in the Elephant Gambit. Now, for that I deserve a Boo-Booooo; where is Yogi Berra, when you need him?
Sep-02-14
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  tamar: Part of the Ebony and Ivory Collection.
Sep-02-14  ljfyffe: Lawrence Day, in The Canadian Encyclopedia, says N.M. MacLeod " specialized in what later became known as the Hippopotamus Defence".
Sep-02-14  morfishine: <ljfyffe> That was the joke: Holze/holes & Elephant/mammoth

Glad someone else thought is was amusing; If one doesn't like it, guess the reply would be "Tsk Tsk"...

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Sep-02-14
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  whiteshark: Is this Guenter Holze ?
Sep-02-14  ljfyffe: <morfishine>I'd gotten it. Elizabeth Bishop, the Nova Scotian/American poet liked the mis-spelt "manmoth". Reminds me ...when a fellow, having made one, said to me:"no pun intended", I replied: "None taken!"
Sep-02-14
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  kevin86: A great win with the Queen Pawn Counter- Gambit by black!
Sep-02-14  ljfyffe: I read Linda McQuaid's "Shooting the Hippo". If you're seeking chess info, don't bother! Otherwise, not a bad book.
Aug-20-18
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  Invisible1: Not right now,Thank You !!!
Apr-07-21  magic1949: Fsr's note re Houdini 3 note re 9...f5? overlooks White's very strong reply 10. h4! Moving the f pawn opens up the diagonal to the king and taking the knight leads to fireworks that favour White e.g. 9....f5 10. h4 fxe4 11.dxe4 Nb6 12.Ng5 Qd6 (if Qd7 or Rf8 then 13 Qh5) 13.Qc4+!! Nxc4 14.Bxc4+ Be6 15.Bxe6+ (15..Kf8 16 Nxh7 mate or 15…Kh8 16. Nf7+ wins back the queen so 15….Qxe6 16.Nxe6 Bd6 17.Nd4 Rxe4 18.Bc3 and White is in a safe ending a clear pawn ahead.)

Best seems to be
10....c6 best 11.Nfg5 Bxg5 12.hxg5 fxe4 13.dxe4 Bf5 14.f3 Nb6 15.a4 Bg6 16.a5 N6d7 17.Qc4+ Kh8 18.Qc3 Nf8 19.Be3 Qe7 20.Kb1 Na6 21.Bc4 inviting 21....Qb4?? 22. Qxg7+! forces mate. But 21... Bf7! is better for Black ....but White has pawns and a lot of play If White instead picks up a pawn with 21. Bxa6 bxa6 22. Qxc6 then Bf7 or Rec8 leaves Black on top... but White is still in the game - e.g. 22...Bf7 23. Qxa6 Qc7 24.Bd4 Bc4 25 Qh6 Rec8 26.g6 Re6 (Bg8 27.c3 is solid for White) 27. Qh2 Rxg6 28 Qxc7 Rxc7 29. Rg1 and White is Ok (or 28.... Qxa5 2 9 b3 or 28 ..Qc6 2 29 b3 are both =)

Other10th move tries leave White a bit better than Black e.g. 10....Nc6!? 11.Nfg5 g6 12.f3 h6 13.Nh3 Bf8 14.g4 fxe4 15.dxe4 Qf6 16.g5 Qf7 17.Qc4 Nb6 18.Qxf7+ Kxf7 and this is better still for White

or 10....Qd7 11.Ne5 Qa4 12.Nc3 Nxc3 13.Bxc3 Nd7 14.a3 Nxe5 15.Bxe5 Bf6 16.d4 Bxe5 17.dxe5 Be6 18.Qf3 Qe4 and White is clearly better

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