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Edward Lasker vs George Thomas
"Fatal Attraction" (game of the day Apr-10-2016)
Casual game (1912), London ENG, Oct-29
Horwitz Defense: General (A40)  ·  1-0

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Apr-10-16  SandyJames: I'm a bit confused. I have a book on Dutch Defence by Neil McDonald and this game is on page 17 and the move order is very different like below:

1 d4 f5

2 e4 fxe4

3 Nc3 Nf6

4 Bg5 e6

5 Nxe4 Be7

6 Bxf6 Bxf6

7 Nf3 0-0

8 Bd3 b6

9 Ne5 Bb7

..... and so on.

So which one is correct? Thanks!

Apr-10-16
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  Keyser Soze: Great pun, and nice game!
Apr-10-16
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  offramp: McDonald's correct.
Apr-10-16
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  maxi: The pun is perfect! But, as we are told by <TheFocus> to focus upon (and others, too), it is too bad the Lasker chest player played the rather weak 18.Kd2++ instead of the stronger 18.0-0-0++, putting his king in safety.
Apr-10-16
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  FSR: <SandyJames> Many different versions of the opening moves have been given (including by Lasker itself) and it is unclear which is correct. http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
Apr-10-16  SandyJames: Thank you, FSR.
Apr-10-16  newhampshireboy: E. Lasker was a cousin of Emmanuel Lasker. What a fun game to see!
Apr-11-16  kevin86: The black king is marched to the scaffold. White ducks on castling with mate.
Apr-11-16
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  maxi: Yes. Emmanuel Lasker was the chess player (or, as he called himself on a tragic occasion, Schach Koenig), and Edward was the chest player.
Nov-14-16  lealcala: Lasker chose to move the King to checkmate. Always felt it would have been even a more special game if he had chosen rooking to checkmate.
Jun-03-17  ChessHigherCat: <lealcala: Lasker chose to move the King to checkmate. Always felt it would have been even a more special game if he had chosen rooking to checkmate.>

Especially since it's included in the collection "Castle mates". Too bad he showed such economy of effort that he chose to move the King as a single piece rather than castling, which requires moving two pieces (thereby burning up 0.000735 more calories).

Sep-14-17  boxcar2: why not 16 B e5 mate? quicker.
Sep-14-17  Cucurbit: <boxcar2 why not 16 B e5 mate? quicker.>

16 Be5 is not a legal move (no dark square bishop) and it would not be mate even if it were possible.

16 Be4 (which you may have meant) is not mate because of 16 ...Bxe4

Jan-29-18
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  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO8....
Feb-08-18  kishore4u: Superb tactic
Jun-11-18  zanzibar: Winter plays around with you in citing all the different versions, but let's just cut to the chase:

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

I found another contemporaneous version (1912-12-22), unsurprisingly matching version #4:

http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-...

This version gives London, recently played, and cites both Kd2# and O-O-O# as possible endings.

Dec-30-18  HarryP: This game is a warning to anyone, like me, who likes the Dutch Defense. Yes, FSR, 10 ... Be5 is the move.
Apr-08-20  asiduodiego: This conversation happened between the kings before the combination:

WK: "Hey, have you ever been in the spot where I castle Kingside?" BK: "As a matter of fact, I haven't"
WK: "Such a shame. Please, I invite you to come."

BK: "No, thank you"
WK: "I'm afraid I must insist".

Sep-12-21  Nimzofritz: This game is featured in an episode of a Netflix show called Explained. The episode in question is about chess. Check it out.
Dec-25-21  Mathematicar: A classical example of a "mate with the king".
Mar-01-23  itay72: I saw a random music video that featured this game and I recognized it. Got so proud of myself.

Music video in question: https://youtu.be/BWTI8-guT-U

Great song too.

Nov-29-23
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  Sally Simpson: In the 2020 film 'Riders of the Storm' at the start a man is sacked and as he is clearing out his desk he picks up a set and board and empties the pieces into a cardboard box. You only see the position on the board briefly but it is definitely;

Edward Lasker - Sir George Thomas, 1912. (White to play)


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Dec-10-23  pacercina: This is ridiculous that in the Guess-the-Move, for 18. 0-0-0 no points awarded. :)))
Jan-16-24
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  Fusilli: <maxi> <...it is too bad [that] Lasker ... played the rather weak 18.Kd2++ instead of the stronger 18.0-0-0++, putting his king in safety.>

Ah... the eternal debate. I never chipped in, and it's never too late, I suppose.

Chess is a war-like game. How does white execute the black king? Lasker chooses to just move his king slightly aside, so that a sniper can shoot the black king dead from a mile away, with a single shot. This is the most efficient, cleanest, and least wasteful way to do it. A single shot. The long castle is the equivalent of dropping a big bomb just to kill a single person, when a single shot would do. No military commander would ever, ever, do that. No real military commander would go "I love the smell of napalm in the morning, so let's kill this bastard with napalm" when a single shot would do.

I couldn't disagree more with the idea that 18.0-0-0++ is <stronger>, <putting his king in safety.> What safety? This king is at risk of nothing and needs no safety! Running away would only show cowardice. His people would no longer respect this king! And why insult the sniper that way? Why tell the sniper, "hey, why don't you come a lot closer? You are kinda far there." I think it's way stronger to show that our snipers know what they are doing, kill from far away, with a single shot, and our king is not a chicken that needs to run away to "safety" in a situation like this. What is he afraid of? Being spattered with the blood of his enemy? To the contrary, the king wants to have a front seat here.

If the pieces spoke, I can imagine white's king, if sent to castle, screaming to Lasker <Nooooo!! What are you doing?? Why are you doing this to me??> And the rook, deeply offended, <Oh great. I wanted to show off my skills and now you make me look like an amateur at the range.>

Lasker thought of O-O-O (does anyone in their right mind think he did not?), then thought "no need," and played the militarily speaking best move for a war-like game. Save the O-O-O unnecessary huge explosion to the Hollywood movie and leave the real execution to Lasker.

Aug-24-24
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  phileasfogg: In the introduction to Renaud and Kahn's book, "The Art of Checkmate" p. 8, the moves given for this game are the same as given here on Chessgames.com.
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