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| May-16-05 | | pubs r us: got it - easy |
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| May-16-05 | | dac1990: Of course. It's a Monday puzzle, after all. |
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| May-16-05 | | notsodeepthought: I briefly posted an alternative "solution" that was hopelessly flawed - apologies to anyone who saw it and may be wondering why it's now gone... it wasn't worth the trouble. |
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| May-16-05 | | supertimchan: In terms of material, black exchanges 3 minor pieces with the queen which is nothing special. |
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| May-16-05 | | maxundmoritz: What about 21...Ne7? The black queen has to guard f2, so the only options seem to be
22.Qxh7 Kf8 23.Qh8+ Ng8 24.Qh4 Qxd3 25.Ne2 which could continue 25...Bxc4 26.Nxc4 Qxd1+ 27.Qe1 Qxe1+ 28.Kxe1 or
22.Re1 Nxf5 23.Rxe3 Nxe3+
Both leave black in a much stronger position than 21...Bxg2. |
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| May-16-05 | | dzanone: Supertimchan, perhaps the trade isn't all that special, but after 22. K-h1 Nxf5 23. Bxf5 Qxd4, black can double the rooks on the d-file, pinning the knight and picking off white's Q-side pawns. |
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| May-16-05 | | Counterpoint: What about:
21. Nf4 (threatening Bg2# or Qf2#).
(if 22. Bxf4 Qf2#) 22. Qxf4 Qxd3+
A) 23. Ke1 Re8+ 24. Qe5 Rxe5+ 25. dxe5 Qe3+ 26. Kf1 Qf2#
B) 23. Ne2 Re8 24. Qg4 Qe3 (24. Re1 Qxh3 25.Kg1 Qf2#) 25. Bg3 Qxe2 26. Qxe2 Nxg3+ 27. Kf2 Nxe2 (adv. Black) |
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| May-16-05 | | fian: The queen is tied to the defence of f2. So to disturb it we need to play 21...Ne7 and now the queen has no moves. 21...Nh4?? is a blunder because of 22.Qh7+ and then Qxh4+. |
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| May-16-05 | | jahhaj: <dzanone> Even better is 23... ♖xd4 24 ♘gf3 ♖xd2 25 ♘xd2 ♖d8. White's pieces are too badly coordinated to avoid material loss. But seeing all that makes it a rather difficult Monday puzzle. I spent a few minutes looking for a mate, which isn't there. |
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| May-16-05 | | jahhaj: <fian> Nice one!
21... ♘e7 22. ♕xh7+ ♔f8 23. ♕h8+ ♘g8 24. ♕h4 (to prevent ♕f2#) ♕xd3+ Stronger than the game continuation. |
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| May-16-05 | | jahhaj: <Counterpoint> You missed 22. ♕xh7+ ♔f8 23. ♕h8+ ♔e7 24. ♕h4+ |
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| May-16-05 | | Madman99X: 21.... Ne7 seems the most decisive to me.
Equally futile is
22. Re1 Nxf5 23. Rxe3 Nxe3+
And chessmaster gives a score of -7.22 |
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| May-16-05 | | Granite: Counterpoint - I looked at 22. ...Nf4 as well but after 22. Qxh7+ white has a lot of threats suddenly, and the position isn't as clear cut. |
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May-16-05
 | | cu8sfan: Is it Monday already? Feels like Sunday. Of course, in Switzerland it's pentecost and we all have a day off. Great if you want to watch a chessgame! |
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| May-16-05 | | halcyonteam: wrong title:black to play and win |
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| May-16-05 | | Fulkrum: I thought it was 21...Nh4. I think this wins unless I missed something. |
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| May-16-05 | | Fulkrum: Oh, nevermind. 22.Qxh7 is in order. |
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May-16-05
 | | Richard Taylor: I got he puzzle (of dourse as its Monday -now it is Tuesday here!! ( and it does win the game - the three pieces aren't backed by a good pawn situation <counterpoint> your Nf4 idea looks winning even if white takes on h7 with the queen... |
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May-16-05
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Today’s puzzle is a rather curious one. Staunton’s combination does win the Queen, but he invests three minor pieces into the bargain. In the position at the end of the combination, Black would have Q and two R’s against one R and four minor pieces; Black’s advantage is really more positional than material. Thus, it is true that (from the position where the anonymous player[s] of the White pieces resigned) 23. Kxh1 Nxf5 24. Bxf5, would yield a position in which Black holds a winning advantage; but there is sufficient play that White’s resignation strikes me as somewhat premature. It was probably attributable to Staunton’s reputation and to the mid-nineteenth century ethos that the win of the opponent’s Queen (otherwise than in acceptance of a sacrifice leading to forced checkmate) was an alternative way to win a game of chess. From the position in the diagram, Black’s strongest move is probably 21. … Ne7, attacking White’s overworked Queen (which must defend both the f2 square and the B/d3). After 21. … Ne7, a plausible continuation such as: 22. Re1 Nxf5 23. Rxe3 Nxe3+ 24. Ke2 Nxc4 25. Nxc4 Bxc4 26. Bxc4 Rxd4 27. Bb3 Re8+ 28. Kf1 Rd2 29. Nf3 Rxb2 30. Ne5 Rxh2 31. Bxf7+ Kf8 32.Bxe8 Kxe8 leads to a position in which White’s resignation would be by no means premature, but rather overdue. |
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| May-16-05 | | Jimzovich: hmmmm... Can someone explain.
Why not the last 2 moves in reverse 21. ...Nh4 then 22. ...Bg2# ?
This looks better to me. |
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| May-16-05 | | JustAFish: <Jimzovich> 21... Nh4 22. Qxh7+ Kf8 23. Qxh4 |
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| May-16-05 | | kevin86: Switzerland has a Monday holiday for Pentecost? Fascinating! Black has little material advantage-but white's pieces are very passive and the king's exposed to attack. I think it's an easy win 4 black. |
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| May-16-05 | | The beginner: Easy to see, when you realise there is no quick win (I did spend a few minutes trying to see if there was something better than the exhange:) Not really a black to play and win, as black is already winning before the puzzle starts. The combination is nice though, it is not always so easy to win those games where one is a litle material ahead if the oponent knows how to defend. 21 .. Bg2
22 Kxg2 ..Nh4+
23 Kxh1 ..Nxf5
24 Bxf5 ..Rxd4
Black won a queen, and a pawn, for 3 pieces, and the rest of white's army looks looks like they have been throwed randomly down at the board :) Should be pretty easy for black to take it home now. |
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| May-16-05 | | Stonewaller2: <Not really a black to play and win, as black is already winning before the puzzle starts.> But one of the most difficult things in Chess is winning a won position . . . |
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May-16-05
 | | jjones5050: What does NN mean? |
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