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Jose Raul Capablanca vs David Janowski
"Goliath Beats David" (game of the day Mar-04-2024)
San Sebastian (1911), San Sebastian ESP, rd 5, Feb-27
Queen Pawn Game: Colle System (D40)  ·  1-0

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Sep-23-18
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  AylerKupp: <<john barleycorn> I compared your "after his clear first at Hastings" about Pillsbury to that "Capablanca finished only 1/2 point ahead".>

Oh, OK. My comment about Capablanca finishing only ½ point ahead is that this didn't seem like a good reason to cause him to become "the favorite contender for the world championship overnight" particularly since this was his first international tournament and the presumably favorite contender for the world championship, Rubinstein, was the one that finished ½ point behind <and> defeated Capablanca in their individual encounter. After all, no one knew whether Capablanca could duplicate such a good success so anointing him the favorite contender for the world championship seemed somewhat premature, even though it was ultimately correct.

May-19-19
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  LoveThatJoker: GOTD: Hangin' Tough LTJ
Jul-07-21
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  Chessmaletaja: The postion after 58. ♘c5-e4!


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Black has messed up. His King, Queen and Knight are living in three different worlds.

58...♔h7? lost the game.

58...♕h4 seems to make a draw. Note that this move also tries to give back some coordination between Black's pieces.

Oct-05-21
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  fiercebadger: Talk to your pieces ! Capa's Knight says bring me back into the game, when he does it dances ! ..53 Qe1 is losing better ..53 Qh1+ winning
Oct-16-21  N.O.F. NAJDORF: < pawntificator: 53...Qh1+ 54 Ka2 Nxe5 55 moves ...Qg2 and Janowski could have took it. >

That line allows white to queen his pawn with check.

Jul-24-23  Mathematicar: Janowski, Janowski!
Sep-03-23  Idk1992: I really want to to add a pun to this. I really like this game. Janowski absolutely demolishing Capa and him actively realising it and accepting that this was the first time in his career he felt that his opponent absolutely crushed him and was super ahead of him only for Janowski to make one small inaccuracy and giving it all away. I can't even imagine the heights Capablanca would reach if he was given today's technology...
Sep-04-23
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  Sally Simpson: <I can't even imagine the heights Capablanca would reach if he was given today's technology...>

Capablanca was born gifted for the game. Given the fact that in 1921 the population of the world was 2 billion and now it is 8 billion we would have to surmise that quite a few more Capablanca's have appeared.

If so and they have inherited all the Capablanca traits then today's modern game would be too much hard work for them. Today being gifted is not enough, you have work and study much harder and longer than any of the old masters.

Capablanca was notoriously lazy so all the new Capablanca's would not be into chess, they would be unemployable, probably poets, or if they are as good looking as Capablanca then gigolos.

Sep-04-23
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  MissScarlett: I don't think Capablanca can be held solely responsible for the population explosion.
Sep-04-23
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  Sally Simpson: It stands to reason, do the maths, (one Capa per 2 billion) there must be at the very least four Capablancas out there.

Maybe they have not been born in the right environment. For all we know one might an Inuit making chess pieces out of snow and ice and not knowing why the are doing it.

Oct-09-23
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  keypusher: There are many strong contenders, but this gets my vote for the most overrated game of all time.
Oct-18-23  Mathematicar: <Sally�Simpson> I don't fully agree.

We will never ever see players like Capablanca again because, apart from your consciousness and personality, time and space are what make you � you. It gets a bit philosophical, but we will never see a player like Morphy, Lasker, Rubinstein, Reti and Alekhine again either.

Capablanca's charm was not only due to his appearance, behavior and even playing style, but also due to the charming time in which he lived (if you were healthy, rich and influential enough). Poets were poets, they didn't wear blue fashion glasses, and they didn't give motivational speeches at TEDx. They wrote on paper, not on computers. I know, so primitive.

I agree with the lazy part, hard.

Mar-04-24
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  OhioChessFan: I'd noticed this pun for a while and am glad to see it run.
Mar-04-24
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  HeMateMe: Hey, the pun speaks the truth.
Mar-04-24
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  OhioChessFan: Hmmm. Steinitz vs D S Robinson, 1898
Mar-04-24
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  HeMateMe: <Capablanca was notoriously lazy so all the new Capablanca's would not be into chess, they would be unemployable, probably poets, or if they are as good looking as Capablanca then gigolos.>

They'd be day traders or writing code for popular video games.

Mar-04-24  RookFile: Capa didn't work because he didn't need to. That doesn't mean that if he needed to he couldn't.
Mar-04-24  morphynoman2: A tragedy for Janowski. It seems he don't liked draws!
Mar-05-24
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  Honza Cervenka: <morphynoman2: A tragedy for Janowski. It seems he don't liked draws!>

Janowski was very self-confident, and he was a fighter. Moreover, he was absolutely right in this case, when he avoided to force perpetual, as he was then objectively better. And in fact, he could win the game after more precise 53...Qh1+ 54.Ka2 Nxe5.

Mar-27-24  VictorVonDoom: The game looks drawn till move 50. After Bxe5, the game is in black's favor. Janowski could have won this game if he didn't play Qe1+. It's a terrible blunder, which makes the game equal.

If black had instead played Qh1+, after king moves and knight takes bishop, the queen can block the path of the passed pawn.

Whereas, if the Queen checks the king on e1, it cannot block the path of the passed pawn, and the game becomes equal. Janowski lost the game because of the second blunder, Kh7. If he had played Qh4, protecting the passed pawn, 58. ...Qh4 59. Qc8+ Kh7 60. Qxb8 Qxe4 61. Qh2 Qxb7 62. Qxh3+ would be a clear draw.

Jul-06-24  Zenchess: 59...g5!! draws. 59...g6?? blocks his own King in key lines. 59...g5 creates luft so that White never has more than a perpetual.
Jul-07-24
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  perfidious: That said, it is far from natural to expose one's king to a double check while giving up material into the bargain. Even the greatest human players would likely shy away.

<fishie>, of course, would disagree.

Jul-07-24  Zenchess: The key point is that 59...g5!! leads to 60. Qxh3+ Kg7 61. Qf3 Qc1 62. Qf6+ Kg8 63. Qe6+ Kg7 64. Qe7+ Kh8 65. Qf8+ Kh7 66. Nf6+, and then Black has luft with his King with Kg6, and the game goes on.

After 59...g6, the game continuation, there follows 60. Qxh3+ Kg7 61. Qf3 Qc1 62. Qf6+. Now, if Black tries 62...Kg8 (instead of Kh7), there follows 63. Qe6+ Kg7 64. Qe7+ Kh8 65. Qf8+ Kh7, and 66. Nf6+ is mate since the g6 pawn is blocking the King's flight square.

Nov-06-24  Mathematicar: If 7...a5, then 8. cxd5 Nxd5 9. Bd2 Nxc3 10. Bxc3 Qxd1+ 11. Rxd1 Bxc5 and 12. Bb5 would give White a very comfortable game. Black attacked there where he is weaker, ignoring the development, which violates two principles at once. Therefore, such a move should surely be avoided.
Nov-20-24
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  PawnSac: <morphynoman2: A tragedy for Janowski. It seems he don't liked draws!>

yes. He had draw in hand several times but was pressing too hard for a win, thus lost

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