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Jan-25-05
 | | beatgiant: <meloncio>
Oh, I thought Black was winning a pawn by 27. Rxe4 Qxc2 threatening ...Qxb2 and keeping in reserve threats to the first rank like ...Qb1+.Can Fritz, or anyone else who sees it, say what White has against 27. Rxe4 Qxc2? |
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| Jan-25-05 | | meloncio: <beatgiant> Another 10 minutes analysis by the tireless Fritz 8 with your idea: 27.Rxe4 Qxc2 28.Re1 Qxa4 29.Qd3 Qb5 30.Qxb5 axb5 31.Rg1 Rc2 32.b3 Rc3 33.b4 Rc4 34.Rb1 Kf7 Eval. (-0.69) |
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Jan-25-05
| | beatgiant: <meloncio>
<27.Rxe4 Qxc2 28.Re1 Qxa4 29.Qd3 Qb5 30.Qxb5 axb5 31.Rg1 Rc2 32.b3 Rc3 33.b4 Rc4 34.Rb1 Kf7>Thanks for that, but I'm still a bit skeptical of several of Fritz's suggested moves above. The first place I might vary is with 28...Qxb2, but you don't need to go run Fritz on it again. We have the answer to <lopium>'s original question. Black can win a pawn, but it does look rather early for White to resign. |
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| Jan-25-05 | | meloncio: <beatgiant> Yes, I'm a bit surprised too. I have Fritz only a few weeks ago and scarcely use it. Maybe I don't know how to exploit all its strength ... YET! :-D Anyway it's a blitz game, so perhaps white resigned by time troubles, don't you think? |
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| Sep-10-06 | | FischerHistorian: According to the book 'Chess Meets of the Century' by Bjelica & Fischer, Ostojic lost this game on time. |
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| Nov-19-09 | | Al2009: Nobody reported that Ostojic could quickly win this game, because 20...f5? was a blunder by Fischer. After 21. exf5! Bxf3 (what else? If 21...h5, 22. Re7!, Qb8 23. Qg5, Rf6 24. Ne4, Bxe4 25. Bxe4 threatening both Bd5+ and h3  ) 22. Re7! and no way to avoid either Qxh7+ or to lose the Queen (22...Bxg2+ 23. Kxg2, Qc6+ 24. Be4 ). If 22...Qxe7 23. Qxe7, Rae8 24. Qh4! decides. 21. Rf4?? was a big mistake and a waste of a winning chance by Ostojic. |
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| Nov-19-09 | | kurtrichards: Ostojic finished last with only 2 points whilst Fischer topped the Herceg Novi World Blitz Championship 1970 with 19/22.
"In my opinion,Fischer plays blitz in the same manner as in serious games: quickly,confidently and practically faultlessly.", said Tal. |
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| Nov-19-09 | | Al2009: Practically faultlessly, but not in this game with Ostojic. The ranking doesn't matter.
One can win a tournament and lose with the last player. Fischer himself drew with Naranja and Jimenez - who finished in the last positions - at the 1970 Palma de Mallorca izt, and with Naranja he pulled out a very fortunate draw, just because Naranja missed the winning continuation. |
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| Nov-19-09 | | WhiteRook48: 21 Rf4? |
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| Nov-08-10 | | tentsewang: There was no blunder on Fischer's part. Try to better analyze it before you confess your faulty opinions & get some cognition. Fischer's at the pyramid during that era... |
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| Nov-12-10 | | jmboutiere: After 13.Qh4 black is slightly beter |
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| Nov-12-10 | | jmboutiere: 21.Ef5 is much better than Rf4 |
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| Nov-12-10 | | jmboutiere: 23...Rce8 is much better than Rf4 |
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| Nov-12-10 | | jmboutiere: The final position is probably a draw |
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| Mar-31-12 | | screwdriver: Hmm, I was looking for another Fishcer brilliancy. Technically, Fischer won this game, but lots of chess was still to be played. |
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Aug-06-12
 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
P Ostojic vs Fischer, 1970.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF FISCHER.
Your score: 51 (par = 50)
LTJ |
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| Jul-07-13 | | Xeroxx: interesting |
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| Aug-22-17 | | Nikolemo: It's was blitz he lost on time I guess,It's a drow |
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| Sep-23-18 | | karik: At the time I read somewhere that Ostojic was a good blitz player. |
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Apr-19-22
 | | PawnSac: < Nikolemo: It's was blitz he lost on time I guess, It's a drAw > Loss on move 27? probably flagged. But after 27.Rxe4 Qxc2 28.Re1 Qxa4 it may be a theoretical draw but I suspect Fischer would have squeeked out the win. |
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Apr-19-22
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Al2009: Nobody reported that Ostojic could quickly win this game, because 20...f5? was a blunder by Fischer.
After 21. exf5! Bxf3 (what else? If 21...h5, 22. Re7!, Qb8 23. Qg5, Rf6 24. Ne4, Bxe4 25. Bxe4 threatening both Bd5+ and h3 ) 22. Re7! and no way to avoid either Qxh7+ or to lose the Queen (22...Bxg2+ 23. Kxg2, Qc6+ 24. Be4 ). If 22...Qxe7 23. Qxe7, Rae8 24. Qh4! decides.> After 21.exf5 black can play 21...Ne5 but white is definitely better after 22.Rff1 gxf5 23.Bxf5 Rce8 24.Ne4 Qg7 25.Ng3. |
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| Apr-19-22 | | FM David H. Levin: <Al2009: Nobody reported that Ostojic could quickly win this game, because 20...f5? was a blunder by Fischer. After 21. exf5! Bxf3 (what else? If 21...h5, 22. Re7!, Qb8 23. Qg5, Rf6 24. Ne4, Bxe4 25. Bxe4 threatening both Bd5+ and h3 ) 22. Re7! and no way to avoid either Qxh7+ or to lose the Queen (22...Bxg2+ 23. Kxg2, Qc6+ 24. Be4 ). If 22...Qxe7 23. Qxe7, Rae8 24. Qh4! decides.> After 24. Qh4, 24...Bb7
click for larger viewseems to hold because White can take neither the knight (25. Qxg4 Re1+) nor the g-pawn (25. fxg6 Nf2+ 26. Kg1 Re1+ 27. Bf1 Nh3+). If White plays 25. h3, then 25...Ne5 and I think it's still a fight. |
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| Apr-19-22 | | N0B0DY: can't remember that at all. |
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Apr-21-22
| | Honza Cervenka: <FM David H. Levin> After 21.exf5 Bxf3 22.Re7 Qxe7 23.Qxe7 Rce8 24.Qh4 Bb7 25.h3 Ne5 26.Be4 Bxe4 27.Nxe4 Nd7 (covering f6) 28.Nxd6 (diagram) white should win.
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| Apr-21-22 | | FM David H. Levin: <Honza Cervenka: <FM David H. Levin> After 21.exf5 Bxf3 22.Re7 Qxe7 23.Qxe7 Rce8 24.Qh4 Bb7 25.h3 Ne5 26.Be4 Bxe4 27.Nxe4 Nd7 (covering f6) 28.Nxd6 (diagram) white should win.> You're right--I had overestimated Black's ability to resist after 25...Ne5. Black is centralized, but his pieces can't readily access White's position. In contrast, most of Black's pawns are targets. |
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