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Feb-28-14 | | MarkFinan: In fact IMHO, I think Fischer had to have seen from this position here and playing 18.Ndf7...
 click for larger viewTo this position here, and then playing 25.e6. And then once he reached this position which is winning, a lot of blacks moves are forced, if white plays correctly, which for the most part he does. Anyways, after e6 ..Rxc2 I personally think IMHO that he saw all the way to...  click for larger view....Here. Where I think it's *fairly* easy to see that white can trade the rook for the b pawn that is about to be promoted, and still get his king up to f6 before black, in turn promoting one of the e and f pawns.  click for larger viewGreat game really. Glad I came across it because it's not one of Fischer's more famous games I guess.😃 |
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Feb-28-14
 | | offramp: <Big Pawn: This game has that Paul Morphy feel to it if you ask me. Does anybody else feel the same way?> I do! It is an incredibly old-fashioned game. |
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Mar-02-14
 | | LIFE Master AJ: An often overlooked brilliancy of their second match. (The "chess press" mostly dissed these games.) Also looks (A LOT) like it could have been played by TAL or ANDERSSEN!? |
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Mar-02-14
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Practically every other move is an exclam by Soltis. |
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Mar-03-14 | | MarkFinan: This move here, Nf5! really caught my eye and made me go back through the game a little slower so I could really grasp how he reached this position..
 click for larger viewI don't think I would have played, or even seen Nf5 here. And that makes me think.. I <wonder> what his strength, his elo rating would have been at this time? Still above 2500? It's up for discussion I guess, but I would say Fischer still had "it", whatever "it" was!? It makes you think what he could have achieved in the 70's and all the way into the mid 80's where he would have most definitely met a young and hungry Kasparov. If? Such a big word really 😃 |
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Feb-18-15 | | Garech: This Fischer fellow is rather good!
-Garech |
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May-02-15 | | drunknite: Yes of course Fischer won in 20 moves and he was still the greatest player evah, but doesnt black mess up on move 36? why the hell does the move B off the blockade square? how does B and 2p ending go again? |
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Aug-06-15 | | Xeroxx: wow what a game |
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Dec-25-17 | | sorrowstealer: I never understood why Kasparov said this games as old man's chess |
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Dec-25-17 | | Magpye: <sorrowstealer> Well, it could be because Bobby and Boris had to use walkers to get to the board. |
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Dec-25-17 | | sudoplatov: Just after this match, I asked a European IM what the scuttlebutt was on Fischer. He told me the consensus of GMs that he knew was that Fischer was still a top-ten player but could easily become number one again with some practice and opening study. |
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Dec-25-17
 | | MissScarlett: And stopped using a wooden racket. |
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Dec-25-17
 | | PawnSac: < drunknite: doesnt black mess up on move 36? > no. The B still eyes the queening square and can stop the promotion
(that is, until the white king comes to assist the promotion, when
black loses his B to capture the pawn).
< why the hell does the move B off the blockade square? > multiple reasons:
1) to keep the king from going to e6
2) from f7 the bishy covers the queening square, h5, and d5.
The pawn on f6 covers g5 and e5. Together they form a wall
white must go around.
3) If white K advances to e4 black can play Bb3! to shield
his own pawn promotion, so after Rxb3 Kxb3 e8=Q black also
promotes b2-b1=Q+ with check then tries to use checks to gain
tempi and capture white pawns for a drawn Q+p ending
(that's the plan anyway, but its wishful thinking). < how does B and 2p ending go again? > From the final position, it is black to play...
IF Be8? Ke6 and captures f6 then moves back to e6
and advance the f pawn to f7 forcing Bxf7 Kxf7 then queen the e pawn. IF instead black moves the K then play could proceed like this:
Kd3 42. Kd7 Ke4 43. e8=Q+ Bxe8+ 44. Kxe8 Kf4 45. Kf7 Kg5 46. Kg7  click for larger viewFrom this position if black plays h7-h6 then 47.h4+! a) Kxh4 48. Kxh6 Kxg4 49. Kg6 Kf4 50. Kxf6 or
b) Kxg4 48. Kxf6 Kxh4 49. Ke6 Kg3 50. f6 h5 51. f7 h4 52. f8=Q h3 53. Qg7+ Kh2 54. Qg4 Instead of playing 46.Kg7 as shown in the diagram, white could directly play 46.h4+ Kxh4 47. Kxf6 Kxg4 48. Ke6 and white queens first. But must watch for stuff like.. 46. h4+ Kh6! (now if white captures the f pawn black is stalemated) 47. g5+ fxg5 48. hxg5+ Kxg5 49. f6 h5 50. Ke7 h4 51. f7 h3 52. f8=Q h2 53. Qh8 (or 52.Kg4 53.Qf2) These are all elementary endings that should be known. Use the CG Endgame EXPLORER. If you're not a member SIGN UP! It's great |
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Dec-25-17 | | RookFile: <sorrowstealer: I never understood why Kasparov said this games as old man's chess. > These are just men, whether they be Kasparov or Fischer. They are subject to the same feelings of jealousy, envy, etc. that the rest of us are. What their heart wants to be true, they find a way to convince their brain of. |
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Sep-08-18 | | jabinjikanza: Super Game |
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Jun-30-19 | | ACMEKINGKRUSHER: This used to be a nice site until someone started talking religion. IT HAS NO PLACE HERE! Using Fischer & Morphy to push religion is a CRIME! Get RID of IT. It has no business in CHESS!
AKK |
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Jun-30-19 | | Diademas: <ACMEKINGKRUSHER: This used to be a nice site until someone started talking religion. IT HAS NO PLACE HERE! Using Fischer & Morphy to push religion is a CRIME! Get RID of IT. It has no business in CHESS! AKK> The last post on this page referring to religion, dates back to March 2013.
Fischer vs Spassky, 1992 Not a big fan of religious discussions on a chess site myself, but I get much more irritated by people writing in all caps. |
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Mar-01-23 | | Brenin: White can win by giving up his R for the b-pawn, denying Black's B the square h4 with g4, moving his K among Black's K-side pawns, and pushing two of his forward, so Black's B can stop only one of them from queening. Black needs a few moves to force the R to take the b-pawn, so first play 37 g4, then execute the above plan. |
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Mar-01-23 | | goodevans: What a bizarre puzzle. White is better, full stop. White will have to give up his R for the b-pawn at some point (might as well wait until it promotes) but then the Black K is out of the game so the White K and extra pawns will overwhelm the B. I guess the aim of the puzzle is to recognise that. But in terms of winning moves there's probably half a dozen or more, |
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Mar-01-23 | | mel gibson: I think that many moves win here.
Stockfish 15 says:
37. g4
(37. g4 (g2-g4 ♔c3-c2 ♔e3-d4 b2-b1♕ ♖b7xb1 ♔c2xb1 ♔d4-c5 ♔b1-c2 ♔c5-d6 ♔c2-d3
♔d6-d7 ♗f7-c4 e7-e8♕ ♗c4-b5+ ♔d7-e7 ♗b5xe8 ♔e7xe8 ♔d3-e4 ♔e8-f7 ♔e4-e5
h2-h4 h7-h6 ♔f7-g6 ♔e5-d6 ♔g6xf6 ♔d6-d7 ♔f6-g7 ♔d7-d6 f5-f6 ♔d6-d7 f6-f7
♔d7-e6 f7-f8♕ ♔e6-e5 ♔g7xh6 ♔e5-e4 g4-g5 ♔e4-e3 g5-g6 ♔e3-d4 g6-g7 ♔d4-e4
g7-g8♕ ♔e4-d4 ♕f8-f4+ ♔d4-c5 ♕g8-c4+ ♔c5-b6 ♕f4-c7+) +M25/69 876) White wins _ mate in 25. |
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Mar-01-23 | | jrredfield: I guess I was trying to find something more spectacular such as 37 e8Q Bxe8 38 Rxh7 which would have been disastrous for White. 37 g4 simply seemed too quiet to grab my attention. But it clearly is the only really strong move for White although h3 will also win. So while some say there are many winning moves, I can only find these two. |
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Mar-01-23 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: The King studied this final on the board.
I chose the move 37. g4 with the line: Kc2 38. Kd4 b1=Q 39. Rxb1 Kxb1 40. Kc5 Kc2 41. Kd6 Kd3 42. Kd7 Ke4 43. e8=Q+ Bxe8+ 44. Kxe8 Kf4 45. h3 Kg3 46. Kf7 Kxh3 47. Kxf6 Kxg4 48. Ke6 h5 49. f6 h4 50. f7 h3 51. f8=Q h2 52. Qf1 Kg3 53. Qh1 with easy win. For the case of 37. Rc7+ Bc4 38. e8=Q b1=Q 39. Rxc4+ Kxc4 40. Qc6+ Kb3 41. Qb5+ Kc2 42. Qxb1+ Kxb1 the end game seems similar to already shown. For 37. g4 the King saw the answer to complicate the position: 37...h5 38. h3? Kc2 39. Kd4 b1=Q 40. Rxb1 Kxb1 41. gxh5 Bxh5 42. Kd5 Bf7+ 43. Kd6 Kc2 44. Kd7 Kd3 45. e8=Q Bxe8+ 46. Kxe8 Ke4 47. Ke7 Kxf5 48. h4 Kg6 49. h5+ Kxh5 50. Kxf6 Game tie. However, White can lost with 37. Rc7+ Kb3 38. Kd4 b1=Q 39. Rb7+ Kc2 40. Rxb1 Kxb1 41. g4! h5! 42. h3? Kc2 43. Kc5 Kd3 44. Kd6 Ke4 45. Kd7 Kf4 46. e8=Q Bxe8+ 47. Kxe8 hxg4 48. hxg4 Kxg4 49. Ke7 Kxf5 (White lost a 'tempo' with 42, h3?). If Black don't give the check 42... Kc2 43. Ke6 Kd3 44. Kxf6 Ke4 45. Ke6 Be8 46. f6 and it is lost. White must answer 37... g5 with 38. gxh5! Bxh5 39. Ke4 Kc2 40. Kd5 Bf7+ 41. Kd6 b1=Q 42. Rxb1 Kxb1 43. Kd7 Kc2 44. e8=Q Bxe8+ 45. Kxe8 Kd3 46. Ke7 Ke4 47. Kxf6 and win. |
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Mar-01-23
 | | WannaBe: I Had Rook take pawn first, before the pawn push. |
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Mar-01-23 | | Mayankk: I saw the potential of 37 g4 and how the Black King got out of action after 37 g4 Kc2 38 Kf4 b1=Q 39 Rxb1 Kxb1 40 g5 fxg5+ 41 Kxg5 etc. After this the Black Bishop will sacrifice itself to prevent the queening of one pawn but the other one will queen anyways. I later saw that the game line was 38 Kd4. It is likely better than 38 Kf4 since there is no need to exchange one pawn. Also the King reaches its target squares at e3/d2 faster. |
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Mar-01-23 | | agb2002: White has a rook and a pawn for a bishop.
Black threatens Kc2-b1=Q.
White can push the g-pawn to create another passed pawn, 37.g4: A) 37... Kc2 38.Kd4 b1=Q 39.Rxb1 Kxb1 40.Kc5
A.1) 40... Kc2 41.Kd6 Kd3 (41... Be8 42.Ke6 Kd3 43.Kxf6 Ke4 44.Ke6, followed by f6, wins) 42.Kd7 Ke4 43.e8=Q+ Bxe8 44.Kxe8 Kf4 (44... Ke5 45.Kf7 is winning) 45.Kf7 Kg5 (45... Kxg4 46.Kxf6 wins) 46.h4+ Kxh4 47.Kxf6 Kxg4 48.Ke5 h5 49.f6 h4 50.f7 h3 51.f8=Q h2 52.Qf1 wins. A.2) 40... h5 41.gxh5 Bxh5 42.Kd6 Bf7 (42... Kc2 43.Ke6 Kd3 44.Kxf6 wins) 43.Kd7 Kc2 44.e8=Q as above. B) 37... h5 38.Kf4
B.1) 38... hxg4 39.Kxg4 followed by h4-h5, etc.
B.2) 38... Kc2 39.g5 fxg5+ 40.Kxg5 b1=Q 41.Rxb1 Kxb1 42.Kf6 Be8 43.Kg7, followed by f6-f7, wins. C) 37... h6 38.h4 Kc2 (38... h5 39.g5 fxg5 40.hxg5, followed by g6, wins) 39.Kf4, followed by g5, is winning. |
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