| Mar-07-04 | | drukenknight: Here's a nice game using Ne2 vs the Sicilian. Only thing I cant understand is why Matulovic is giving up. Can any of you endgame experts out there explain how this is lost? |
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| Mar-08-04 | | Cyphelium: Though I wouldn't dare to call myself an endgame expert, I think that simply 42. Kd5, helping the pawn down to c8, wins. For example. 42. Kd5 Kxf5 43. Rxd4 and white can play Kd6-d7 and c6-c7-c8. Black can go for the g-pawn, trying to sac the rook for the c-pawn and then rush his remaining two pawns: 43.- Rc2 44. c6 Rxg2 45. c7 Rg8 etc. This is tricky for white, but easier is to play 44. g3 intead; 44.- Rc3 45. Rf4+ Kg6 and the king blocks the g-file. 46. c6 Rxg3 47. c7 Rc3 48. Rc4 is easily won of course, while 46.- Ra3 47. c7 Ra8 48. Kc6 is also trivial. |
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| Mar-08-04 | | drukenknight: This too, like the ALek/Richter game is an endgame worthy of study, Cyph's suggestion is straightforward but w/ the help of a solid state companion it only seems to produce this curiousity: 42. Kd5 Rg1
43. c6 Rxg2
44. Kd6 Rc2
45. c7 Rc4
46. Kd7 Kxf5
47. Rf3+ Ke4
48. Rxf7 d3
49. Re7+ Kd4
50. c8=Q Rxc8
51. Kxc8 d2
52. Rd7+ Kc3
53. Rd6 Kc2
54. Rc6+ Kd3
55. Rd6+ Kc2 |
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| Mar-10-04 | | Cyphelium: Ok, on 42. Kd5 Rg1 43. Rd2!? should be considered. Perhaps even better is 42. Kd5 Rg1 43. g3. For example, 43.- Kg4 44. Rxd4+ Kxg3 45. c6 Ra1 46. c7 Ra8 47. Kd6 h4 48. f6 h3 49. Kd7 h2 50. Rd1 Kg2 51. c8Q Rxc8 52. Kxc8 h1Q 53. Rxh1 Kxh1 54. Kd7 wins. |
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| Mar-10-04 | | drukenknight: okay you are going w/ 43 g3 then? I dont want to have to tee this up again if you change your mind. Hmm lets see.... |
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| Sep-18-05 | | bomb the bishop: Why 27..d4? |
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| Sep-19-05 | | iron maiden: Why not 27...d4? Fischer's pawns are going to clean up anyway, so Black may as well start creating counterchances. |
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| Sep-19-05 | | RookFile: Queen and Rook endings are a unique
type of ending. There are only
two things that matter:
1) King safety, and
2) The ability to promote a pawn.
Often, side can be DOWN in material,
say, 1 or two pawns, but win the game
because the opponent is weak in one of these two areas. Matulovich reasoned that if he does
nothing, White is just going to ram
his c pawn through. Say he goes
27.... Ra3 28. c6 Rxd3 !? 29. Qxd3 Qxb6. All he's done is tranpose to
a situation where the c pawn plows
right on in.
Matulovic reasoned that his only
chance was to create threats to white's king on g2, in accordance with
principle #2 above. |
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| Jul-05-07 | | sitzkrieg: d4 looks like a blunder to me..:) |
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| Jul-13-07 | | smarterthanbobby: dear drunken,
the reason the end game is lost
is due to the postion and the TEMPO
white has..simply put it's a lost postion...end of story.... |
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| Nov-05-14 | | Zugzwangovich: The Hays collection gives White's 40th as hg5 as this site does. But it is given as fg6, the en passant capture, in both Brady's Profile of a Prodigy and the Wade-O'Donnell collection. Is either move objectively better than the other? |
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| Nov-05-14 | | Zugzwangovich: Like Cyphelium I wouldn't dare to call myself an endgame expert, but if White's 40th was indeed fg6 then all the analysis on this page goes down the drain, does it not? |
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Aug-19-21
 | | keypusher: <Zugzwangovich: The Hays collection gives White's 40th as hg5 as this site does. But it is given as fg6, the en passant capture, in both Brady's Profile of a Prodigy and the Wade-O'Donnell collection. Is either move objectively better than the other?> Yes, 40.fxg6 is about +8 vs. about +1 or +1.5 after 40.hxg5. Pretty sure this score is wrong. |
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| Aug-19-21 | | Retireborn: It's 40.fxg6 in Informator too (notes by Petrosian.) |
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Aug-19-21
| | keypusher: <retireborn> Thanks, I think I can submit a correction on the strength of Informator, Wade & O'Connell, and <Profile>. <Zugzwangovich: Like Cyphelium I wouldn't dare to call myself an endgame expert, but if White's 40th was indeed fg6 then all the analysis on this page goes down the drain, does it not?> Yes, it's a much more interesting ending with the mistake at move 40. :-) The main difference is that White keeps an extra pawn on h4 after 40.fxg6. In fact 40.hxg5+ is worse than I thought:
40....Kxg5 41.Rd3 Rc1 42.Kd5 Rg1 43.g3 Kxf5 followed by advancing the kingside pawns as <Cyphelium> suggested is 0.00 per SF. Whereas 40.fxg6 Kxg6 41.Rd3 Rc1 42.Kd5 Kf5 43.Rxd4 Rc2 44.c6 Rxg2 45.c7 Rg8 46.Rc4 Rc8 47.Kd6 and White will win the rook, while Black's passed pawn is useless. |
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Aug-19-21
 | | MissScarlett: Am I right to assume it's <40.fxg6 Kxg6> and not <40.fxg6 fxg6>? |
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| Aug-19-21 | | Retireborn: <MissS> Yes, it's 40.fxg6 Kxg6 41.Rd3 1-0 in Informator. No idea about 41...Rc1;perhaps that was a sealed move. |
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| Aug-23-21 | | Retireborn: Actually now I'm looking at Informator again it gives 39...g6, not 39...g5. One suspects that Chessbase mangled the score, but perhaps someone who has one of those complete Fischer books could check. |
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Aug-23-21
| | keypusher: <Retireborn: Actually now I'm looking at Informator again it gives 39...g6, not 39...g5. One suspects that Chessbase mangled the score, but perhaps someone who has one of those complete Fischer books could check.> Wade & O'Connell have <39 ...P-N4 40 PxPep>. |
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Aug-23-21
| | keypusher: I found Mueller's Fischer book (2009) on the Internet Archive. Funnily enough, he has the version of the score with 40.hxg5+?, which he describes as a "typical time pressure error, which activates Black's king" and goes on to note that Matulovic resigned in a drawn position. That last fact really should have given Mueller pause. https://ia801008.us.archive.org/9/i... (p. 303) |
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| Aug-23-21 | | Retireborn: <keypusher> Thanks! I'd be inclined to trust Wade. |
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Aug-23-21
 | | chancho: I have Wade and O'Connell's book. Have been thinking of buying Karsten Mueller's book on Fischer... I guess that's out of the question now... |
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Aug-23-21
| | keypusher: <Retireborn: <keypusher> Thanks! I'd be inclined to trust Wade.> Agree. Also, tournament details: this game was Round 13 of 17, Fischer had lost the round before to Janosevic, and Matulovic was in the running for 1st prize (he and Geller ultimately finished a half point behind Fischer). So Matulovic would have every motivation to salvage a draw if he possibly could. The fact that the 40.hxg5+ version is out there is pretty good evidence that 39....g5 was played -- as Karsten Mueller inadvertently shows, it's a very good time pressure move. <chancho> Mueller's book looked pretty interesting, and algebraic is a big plus for me. I wouldn't rule it out because of this (almost certain) error. |
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