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Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. Abdusattorov vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| ½-½ | 64 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | C78 Ruy Lopez |
| 2. Firouzja vs Caruana |
  | 0-1 | 59 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | A45 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 3. Giri vs So |
| ½-½ | 30 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3 |
| 4. Vachier-Lagrave vs Nepomniachtchi |
| ½-½ | 37 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | C42 Petrov Defense |
| 5. D Gukesh vs B Deac |
| 1-0 | 50 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | E46 Nimzo-Indian |
| 6. Vachier-Lagrave vs Firouzja |
| ½-½ | 56 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | C67 Ruy Lopez |
| 7. So vs B Deac |
| ½-½ | 68 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D73 Neo-Grunfeld, 5.Nf3 |
| 8. Abdusattorov vs Caruana |
| ½-½ | 27 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | A46 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 9. Nepomniachtchi vs D Gukesh |
| ½-½ | 90 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | C70 Ruy Lopez |
| 10. B Deac vs Giri |
| ½-½ | 55 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D19 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Dutch |
| 11. R Praggnanandhaa vs Vachier-Lagrave |
| ½-½ | 49 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation |
| 12. Firouzja vs Abdusattorov |
| 1-0 | 38 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav |
| 13. Caruana vs So |
| ½-½ | 57 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | A20 English |
| 14. D Gukesh vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| ½-½ | 81 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | E04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3 |
| 15. Giri vs Nepomniachtchi |
| ½-½ | 41 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3 |
| 16. Caruana vs B Deac |
| 1-0 | 34 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | E29 Nimzo-Indian, Samisch |
| 17. Firouzja vs D Gukesh |
| ½-½ | 31 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D20 Queen's Gambit Accepted |
| 18. Nepomniachtchi vs So |
| ½-½ | 55 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense |
| 19. Abdusattorov vs Vachier-Lagrave |
| ½-½ | 47 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | B90 Sicilian, Najdorf |
| 20. R Praggnanandhaa vs Giri |
| 1-0 | 80 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D27 Queen's Gambit Accepted, Classical |
| 21. B Deac vs Nepomniachtchi |
| ½-½ | 109 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | A14 English |
| 22. So vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| ½-½ | 49 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | E60 King's Indian Defense |
| 23. Vachier-Lagrave vs Caruana |
| ½-½ | 28 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | C80 Ruy Lopez, Open |
| 24. Giri vs Firouzja |
| ½-½ | 60 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D45 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav |
| 25. D Gukesh vs Abdusattorov |
| ½-½ | 64 | 2024 | Superbet Romania Chess Classic | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
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| Jul-05-24 | | metatron2: <Atterdag: The players here seem too comfortable in their seats - they need the two "bad boys" you mention to stir things up> Exactly.
It seems like the experienced players here, already reached their peak, and are not too motivated get out of their (elite players status) comfort zone, and to really try to push hard for a win (either by taking more risks, or by looking for surprising opening lines). While the young players here, are not experienced or confident enough to really risk their new elite players status. On the other hand, Carlsen and Nakamura are natural fighters, and they are also motivated:
Carlsen wants to prove that he is still clear #1 (especially after forfeiting his title), while Nakamura has millions of followers on youtube, twitch and chesscom that he wants to satisfy, plus he got new motivation for the crawn (surprisingly) after crossing age 35 and clinching #2 spot on the rating list. <Troller: Definitely the presence of Carlsen changes things, as a higher %-score is then needed to win. He also plays for wins in most games.
Not so sure about Naka in that regard; when he was younger, he played very double-edged chess but that is not my impression anymore.> Well, regarding Naka, apart from my reasoning above, you can also look at his latest tournaments results: Candidates (23): +5-2=7
Candidates (22): +4 -3 =7
Norway chess +3 =6
And the two open tournaments:
Grand swiss +5 =6
Qatar Masters +4 =5
Doesn't seem like a player who wants to draw and go watch TV.
He also plays for a win in many positions that seem Darwish (while managing to win quite a few of them too), and he is always looking for new ideas in the opening.
He is also very combative online, always super motivated to win every tourney/match there. Again, I think that part of it, is his numerous followers that push him forward. |
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Jul-05-24
 | | PawnSac: < pjw: Pawnsac - A small time increment is ok, don't like to see a game lost on time. > Well I don't mind so much when my opponent flags. <g> A lot of games are lost due to a bad move just before time control. The clock keeps ticking, so
good time management is important.
Many times in this event we watched players in time pressure. That's part of the game. Back in the day, we played straight time. That's all there was. If your flag fell, you lose. Prepare better, play faster. Clocks with increment came a generation later. |
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Jul-05-24
| | PawnSac: < Congrats to Fabi > and all the others who participated. There were no real losers. Even Deac walked away with $10.5k that's a good paycheck for a week.
Even many of the draws were exciting.
thanks CG for the coverage! |
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Jul-05-24
 | | plang: Perhaps they should pay for the individual result: for instance $6,000 for a win, $2,000 for a loss, $0 for a draw. Something like that. |
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Jul-05-24
| | PawnSac: plang: do they get a bonus for a "Giri" (all draws) ? |
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Jul-05-24
| | PawnSac: but how do you give $2k for a loss, and $0 for a draw? so in a drawn position, the player would have to sac everything he can and hope he gets checkmated! or he gets nada! lol |
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Jul-06-24
 | | Atterdag: So the final order of the fab four after the tie-breaks became: 1. Caruana
2. Firouzja
3. Pragg
4. Gukesh
Congrats to all participants for their business achievements. Live long and prosper! |
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Jul-06-24
 | | MissScarlett: Actually
<1. Caruana
2. Firouzja
3. Gukesh
4. Pragg>
But for the purpose of the official results, it seems that Caruana is first and the others are tied for 2-4th. Likewise, MVL, Nepo and Giri remain tied, and Wesley and Noddy. |
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Jul-06-24
| | plang: <PawnSac: but how do you give $2k for a loss, and $0 for a draw?> yea, I guess you just pay for a win; 0 for both a draw and a loss. |
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| Jul-06-24 | | goodevans: <plang: Perhaps they should pay for the individual result...> Sorry to keep harping on about the World Championship Candidates (2024) but they actually did that there. In fact, for half the players it was the only prize money they got. From https://candidates2024.fide.com/abo... "Additionally [to the placings prize money], players receive 3,500 euros for every half-point scored." |
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Jul-06-24
| | MissScarlett: Added the tiebreak games: Superbet Romania Chess Classic TB (2024) |
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| Jul-06-24 | | sudoplatov: Caruana isn't known for rapid games but he did well here. I didn't analyze the games yet. Not that one often learns much from rapid games. |
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Jul-06-24
 | | perfidious: <sudoplatov: Caruana isn't known for rapid games but he did well here....> No betes noires to face in the form of Nakamura and Carlsen could hardly have damaged his chances. |
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Jul-06-24
 | | Klaus Peter: Shame for the players, so many draws.
Klaus Peter |
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Jul-06-24
 | | MarcusBierce: < sudoplatov: Caruana isn't known for rapid games but he did well here. I didn't analyze the games yet. Not that one often learns much from rapid games.> Never understood this reasoning. One can learn from any game one studies. The end. |
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| Jul-06-24 | | sudoplatov: One can learn, but mostly I have found that rapid chess depends on moves rather than positions. |
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| Jul-07-24 | | goodevans: <MissScarlett: Added the tiebreak games...> Having a separate page for the tiebreak games makes a lot of sense. 👍 |
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| Jul-08-24 | | pcalugaru: More like Ronaian Draw fest 2024 |
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Jul-09-24
| | PawnSac: < sudoplatov: I didn't analyze the games yet. Not that one often learns much from rapid games. > rapid games are a synopsis of the openings a player is familiar with. There is always something to be learned. I try not miss good ideas, whatever the form. |
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Jul-09-24
| | PawnSac: < plang: yea, I guess you just pay for a win; 0 for both a draw and a loss. > That's a little more fair. But what if you played the game of your life and drew Magnus! A heroic achievement. So are you content with nothing? Is a draw no better than a loss? Here's the <You're still a patzer. Get a win and be somebody!> prize. It might be easier to simply forbid draws. NEW RULE: Draws not allowed until after move 174!
We're turning every game into a slug-fest. Player's have to endlessly pummel each other until somebody wins, or resigns, or dies! And no byes for an untimely death! |
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Jul-09-24
| | PawnSac: I understand there is something of an anti-climax about draws, but a draw isn't a problem unless one sees it as a problem. It's also unfortunate that these guys are incredibly difficult to beat. They're not going to just lay down and die. In all seriousness though, I played through all of Ian's draws; games played to a high degree of accuracy. An accuracy report was given during the commentary, and Ian scored the highest; was it 89% or somewhere thereabouts? His prep was excellent, with his preferred lines all worked out, yet resulted in draws. His opponents were also well prepared, and their draws with Ian may have been their most accurate games. So, as much as we prefer fireworks, and as disappointing as draws can be, yet they establish a base line to judge the temperament of the openings. I see this as positive, not negative. |
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Jul-09-24
| | PawnSac: < OVERALL BEST GAME OF THE EVENT > Any suggestions? If there was a brilliancy prize, would there be a winner? |
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| Jul-09-24 | | metatron2: <plang: Perhaps they should pay for the individual result:
for instance $6,000 for a win, $2,000 for a loss, $0 for a draw. Something like that>
Wouldn't the 3 points scoring system be simpler? I don't know why that is not the default scoring system in closed elite tournaments yet.. <PawnSac: I understand there is something of an anti-climax about draws, but a draw isn't a problem unless one sees it as a problem> In order to win in classical chess against such strong opponents, one must take more risks. That means choosing sub-optimal opening lines sometimes in order to surprise his opponent and divert, or going for an active plan that can be dangerous for both sides, etc. It requires more energy, more preparation, and more risk taking from the players. Apparently most of them are too comfortable without the above extra, so we need to give them more incentive to get out of their comfort zone. |
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| Jul-11-24 | | 1300patzer: Do people play over the draws, or just the "decisive" games? Is the interest in the chess played or the competitive result? For me, not a student but a spectator, there's limited time to play over games, so most often I select a decisive game to look at. Yet some draws contain the most interesting chess one can imagine. Perhaps I should seek for a "great draws" collection. |
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Jul-13-24
| | MarcusBierce: < sudoplatov: One can learn, but mostly I have found that rapid chess depends on moves rather than positions.> Positions are positions. Each one is a puzzle, regardless of how they come about or where they go |
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