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| Nov-09-14 | | andrewjsacks: <Lashab> Mingrelia was a historical state in the current nation of Georgia, according to the Wikipedia. |
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| Nov-09-14 | | andrewjsacks: Mingrelia, of course, hosted a famous visit by the Miffentiff of Boffindale, an Indian Potentate, who valued the salutary health effects of the rare mineral deposits found on the banks of the Black Sea. |
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| Nov-09-14 | | andrewjsacks: Every school child in Georgia knows that story. |
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Mar-08-15
 | | perfidious: Greatest. Player. Ever. |
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| May-03-15 | | thomastonk: A published loss!*
From Steinitz' International Chess Magazine, June 1886, pages 181-182 (with thorough comments not reproduced here): [Event "?"]
[Site "St. Petersburg"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Prince Andrey Dadian of Mingrelia"]
[Black "Alexander Vladimirovich Solovtsov"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C51"]
[PlyCount "92"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bb6 5. a4 a6 6. a5 Ba7 7. c3 Nf6 8. d3 d6 9. Be3 Ne7 10. Bxa7 Rxa7 11. Nbd2 Ng6 12. Qb3 O-O 13. Ng5 Qe7 14. h4 h6 15. Ngf3 c6 16. O-O-O Qd8 17. d4 d5 18. Bd3 exd4 19. Nxd4 Nf4 20. Qc2 c5 21. Ne2 Nxd3+ 22. Qxd3 cxb4 23. cxb4 b5 24. e5 Ng4 25. Qd4 Rc7+ 26. Kb2 Qe7 (26... Nxe5!) 27. Nf4 Rc4 28. Nxd5 Rxd4 29. Nxe7+ Kh7 30. Nc6 Rf4 31. g3 Rxf2 32. Rhe1 Bb7 33. Nd4 Rd8 34. Kc3 Rg2 35. Nf5 Nf2 36. Rb1 Rd3+ 37. Kc2 Ra3 38. Kb2 Ra4 39. Kc3 g6 40. Ne3 Rxg3 41. Rb2 Rxe3+ 42. Rxe3 Nd1+ 43. Kd4 Nxb2 44. Kc5 Bc8 45. Rb3 Nc4 46. Nf3 Be6 0-1 ("And after a few moves White resigned.") Not a brilliancy, but no bad game either. And for Prince Dadian a very long game, though it is even incomplete. About the date. Steinitz wrote: "The following toughly contested game was played, some time back, at St. Petersburg between ..." Furthermore, in the International Chess Magazine, August 1885, pages 249-250, Steinitz published another game** between the same opponents and stated that it was played recently. So, 1885 is one possible guess for the year of the game above. *: Not the first one. <WilhelmThe2nd> found and <batgirl> republished another loss against Fyodor Ivanovich Dus Chotimirsky, played in 1902, in an article called "Lesser Known Games of Prince Dadian", see http://schach.chess.com/article/vie... . **: Already found by <Calli> and also republished by <batgirl> here: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/Dadi... . That game is also present in the "Lesser Known ..." article, but I couldn't find there references to <Calli> for finding and to <Steinitz> for the comments. |
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May-03-15
 | | tamar: Sacha Baron Cohen could play him in the movie version, and people would suppose that Prince Dadian and the kingdom of Mingrelia were wild inventions. |
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Nov-29-15
 | | offramp: I went to Mingrelia when I was young.
Really wacky place.
The only thing I remember clearly is that all the cars went backwards. |
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| Nov-30-15 | | Karposian: Mingrelia.. they say in this guy's bio that it's a province of Georgia, of all places! Rather unknown. It must be up in that remote northern Georgia wilderness, you know? Where 'Deliverance' took place? That banjo-playing inbred in the film, he must have been a so-called "mingrel" (not to be confused with a "mongrel" who is mixed-breed, i.e. the exact opposite of "mingrel"). Man, one learns new things every day..!
<offramp: The only thing I remember clearly is that all the cars went backwards.> LOL. You're just pulling our leg. They don't have cars in Mingrelia. You've gotta use canoes up there. Just watch the film. |
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| Jun-27-16 | | Jim Bartle: "Excellent move, Your Highness. I hadn't seen your cunning trap." |
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Aug-21-16
 | | piltdown man: This fellow's chess prowess is similar to Kim Jong I'ls golfing exploits. http://news.cybergolf.com/golf_news... |
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Oct-24-16
 | | Bubo bubo: Oh no - the Prince of Fake is <POTD> again! Is there really no worthy player born on October 24? |
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| Oct-24-17 | | Agferna: No losses; no draws; all wins!!!
Sniff, sniff, I'm starting to smell something and fully agree with historians' concerns. |
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| Oct-24-17 | | theagenbiteofinwit: Don't let this man's record of destruction otb distract us from the fact that His Majesty was rocking skinny jeans over a century before it became cool. |
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Oct-24-17
| | Bubo bubo: Imho <Player of the day> is supposed to be an award for a venerable player. Hence the widely and rightly despised Andrey Dadian, <The Disgrace and Scandal of Chess>, does not deserve to be POTD even once, let alone every year! If there is really no worthy player born on October 24, I propose our veteran NN instead: contrary to Prince Fake he never tried to hide his losses. Details about the rogueries of the notorious "nobleman" can be found here: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/dadi... |
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Oct-28-17
| | Bubo bubo: <If there is really no worthy player born on October 24, I propose our veteran <NN> instead:> Wouldn't Ding Liren be an obvious choice for <POTD>, namely on his 25th birthday? But for some reason cg prefers an oldtime fraudster to a contemporary Super-GM! :-( |
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| Aug-28-18 | | Jean Defuse: ...
'The Mingrelia Defence' 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Qf6 http://www.chessmarginalia.com/the-... ... |
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Aug-28-18
 | | Dionysius1: How can we note "he only published his most stunning victories"? Isn't that just hyperbole? Surely we have no way of knowing whether it's true. And the more I look at that sentence, the less I think it means anything. Is it meant to just mean that the games we know of are stunning victories? |
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Aug-28-18
| | perfidious: The entire closing paragraph is straight out of a publicist's handbook, and no player as such is worthy of this sort of praise. |
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| Aug-28-18 | | Jean Defuse: ...
Great biography in Italian:
<'La controversa figura del Principe Dadian di Mingrelia'> http://soloscacchi.altervista.org/?...
. British Chess Magazine 1898, Vol. 18, p. 81:
. Dadian of Mingrelia v Banov
click for larger view<White announced mate in six moves.> . Dadian of Mingrelia v Rev. T. Kochtaria
click for larger view<White announced mate in three moves.> . Dadian of Mingrelia v Col. Veriguine, Moscow
click for larger view<White to play and win.> ... |
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| Aug-31-18 | | Jean Defuse: ...
Correction: <On the first diagram above - the black queen on g4 is in reality the white>: Dadian of Mingrelia v Banov, Caucasus
click for larger viewWhite announced mate in six moves.
(Also published on page 345 of the November 1893 Deutsche Schachzeitung.) Solution:
1. Rf8+ Bxf8 2. Ng6+ hxg6 3. Qh4+ Nh7 4. Qxh7+ Kxh7 5. Rxh3+ etc. ... |
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| Sep-04-18 | | Jean Defuse: ...
Further solutions for the diagrams above:
Dadian of Mingrelia v <Rev. T. Kochtaria*> Mate in 3 - 1. Ng6+ Kg8 2. Qg7+ Rxg7 3. Nh6#
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Dadian of Mingrelia v Col. Veriguine, Moscow
White wins - 1. Bc5 Bxc5 2. Rd8+ Ke7 3. Rxg8 Kd7 4. Rd1+ Bd6 5. Rxd6+ Qxd6 6. Rd8+ Kxd8 7. Qxd6+ Rd7 8. Nxe6+ and wins. ...
<*> A. Dadian played this game in West Georgia in 1887 at the house of a local priest, <Fedor Khoshtari>. see: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/Dadi... ... |
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Oct-24-18
| | Bubo bubo: Hooray, it's October 24, and the most infamous villain in chess history is not <POTD> again - I consider this a good omen! |
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| Dec-18-20 | | WilhelmThe2nd: Juan Corzo profiled the Prince Dadian of Mingrelia in his chess column in the Havana newspaper 'Diario de la Marina' of September 28th, 1906. After giving a couple of positions from the Prince's games and the game-scores of his wins over Kolisch, Bitcham, and Pushkin that appear in this database, he concluded: <What does the reader think of our Prince?Judging by these samples he is a great master. However, he does not take part in tournaments nor play serious matches. On the occasion of one of Steinitz and Chigorin's visits to Havana, the late Vazquez praised in front of them the talent and aggressiveness of the Prince Dadian of Mingrelia and they exchanged knowing looks, smiling. Those smiles and those looks made the champion of Mexico suspect that His Serene Highness could pass himself off as a great player, paying distinguished masters for invented games and endings which they published in their periodicals with much hype. I dare not say so. I only know that currently the Mingrelian magnate is at odds with Chigorin and that his rival, Schiffers, has published a luxurious edition with a hundred wonderful endings of the chess Prince. Vanitas vanitatum!
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Feb-22-23
 | | FSR: <Nikoloz "Niko" Dadiani (Georgian: ნიკოლოზ "ნიკო" დადიანი), or Nikolay Davidovich Dadian-Mingrelsky (Russian: Николай Давидович Дадиан-Мингрельский; 4 January 1847 – 23 January 1903), was the last Prince of Mingrelia from 1853 to 1867. Of the House of Dadiani, one of the leading Georgian noble families, he succeeded on the death of his father, David Dadiani, but he never ruled in his own right> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_... Our hero Prince Andrey (Andria) was Niko's younger brother. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David... Mingrelia was a principality rather than a full-fledged country, so its ruler was called "prince" rather than "king" - similar to Monaco today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princ... Andrey's older brother Niko succeeded to his father's title upon the latter's death, but Niko never actually reigned. And "In 1867, [Niko] Dadiani formally abdicated the throne and Mingrelia was directly incorporated into the Russian Empire." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_... Being the No. 2 guy in a lame principality may have given Andrey a bit of an inferiority complex (cf. Prince Harry today), so he apparently decided to pretend to be great chessplayer in order to impress people and make himself feel better. |
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Feb-10-24
| | FSR: What?? The Prince has some draws and even losses now? Last time I looked he had a perfect score. |
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