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| Feb-13-07 | | drukenknight: Another insane Ponziani meets phildors, I sack two B for 4ps but somehow manage to win. This one has the early ...Be7 theme along with ...Na5 slapping the Q, so this opening seems to based on sound tactics... The challenge here is to find out the last possible chance to save this for black, of course 23...Bh6 is good but there is stuff later. 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Be7
4. Bc4 d6
5. Qb3 Nh6
6. d4 Na5
7. Qa4+ c6
8. Bxh6 (Bd3 or Be2=) gxh6
9. dxe5 b5
10. Bxf7+? (Bxb5+ better) Kxf7
11. Qc2 Bg4
12. Nfd2 dxe5
13. O-O Rg8
14. b4 Nc4
15. Na3 Nxa3
16. Qb3+ Nc4
17. Nxc4 bxc4
18. Qxc4+ Be6
19. Qe2 Qc8
20. Qh5+ Rg6
21. Qxe5 Bf6
22. Qc5 Rg5
23. Qe3 Qg8 (...Bh3 maybe enough to win)
24. g3 h5
25. f4 Rg4
26. f5 Bd7
27. e5 Bg5
28. e6+ Ke7
29. Qc5+ Kd8
30. exd7 Bf6
31. Qxc6 Rxg3+
32. Kh1 Ke7
33. Rae1+ Kf7
34. hxg3 Rd8
35. Qe6+ Kg7
36. Qxg8+ Rxg8
37. Re8 Kf7
38. Rxg8 Kxg8 and 1-0
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| Feb-14-07 | | drukenknight: the 4...a6 ponziani. ...a6 is playable but I think you first have to play ...h6. Here it doesnt seem to work, a good one to remember: 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Nf6
4. Qa4 a6
5. Bc4 Nxe4 (alternatives?)
6. Bxf7+ Kxf7
7. Qxe4 d6
8. d4 Be7
9. dxe5 Nxe5
10. Nxe5+ dxe5
11. O-O Bd6
12. f4 Re8
13. fxe5+ Kg8
14. Bf4 Bc5+
15. Kh1 Be6
16. b4 Bd5
17. Qe2 the crap pc has about four different choices here but it looks bad for black |
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| Feb-27-07 | | drukenknight: Ponziani v Philidors, here is a good example of how to use h pawn, a pawn and the Q w/o the Ns to cover the Q/B battery attack, this is pretty good for 23 moves or so: 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 d6
3. c3 a6
4. Bc4 h6
5. Qb3 Qf6
6. d4 b5
7. dxe5 dxe5
8. Bd3 Nc6
9. a4 bxa4
10. Rxa4 Bd6
11. Bb5 Bd7
12. Rxa6 Rxa6
13. Bxa6 Nge7
14. Be3 O-O
15. Na3 Na5
16. Qd1 Be6
17. b4 Nac6
18. Bb7 Nxb4
19. O-O Nbc6
20. c4 Bxa3
21. Bxc6 Nxc6
22. Qa4 Bg4
23. Nd2 and he pulled the B back to dd6 and cut off the defense of the N, amusing to play it out: Ba3-d6 24. Qa4xc6 Qf6-g6 25. c4-c5 Bg4-h3 26. g2-g3 Bh3xf1 27. c5xd6 c7xd6 28. Kg1xf1 Qg6-e6 29. Qc6-c4 Qe6-h3 30. Kf1-g1 Qh3-g4 31. Qc4-c6 Qg4-e6 32. Nd2-c4 Rf8-c8 33. Qc6-d5 Qe6xd5 34. e4xd5 Rc8xc4 35. Kg1-g2 f7-f6 36. Kg2-f3 Kg8-f7 37. Kf3-e2 Kf7-e7 38. Ke2-d3 Rc4-a4 39. h2-h4 Ke7-d7 40. Kd3-c3 Kd7-c7 41. Kc3-b3 Ra4-g4 42. Kb3-c3 Kc7-b7 43. Kc3-d3 Kb7-a6 44. Kd3-c3 Ka6-b5 45. Be3-a7 Rg4-c4 46. Kc3-d3 Rc4-d4 47. Ba7xd4 e5xd4 48. Kd3xd4 Kb5-b6 49. Kd4-c4 g7-g6 50. f2-f3 f6-f5 51. g3-g4 f5xg4 52. f3xg4 h6-h5 53. g4-g5 Kb6-c7 54. Kc4-b5 Kc7-d7 55. Kb5-b6 Kd7-e7 56. Kb6-c7 Ke7-f7 57. Kc7xd6 Kf7-e8 58. Kd6-e6 Ke8-f8 59. d5-d6 Kf8-e8 60. d6-d7 Ke8-d8 61. Ke6-f6 Kd8xd7 62. Kf6xg6 Kd7-e7 63. Kg6-g7 Ke7-e6 64. g5-g6 Ke6-f5 65. Kg7-f7 Kf5-g4 66. g6-g7 Kg4xh4 67. g7-g8=Q Kh4-h3 68. Qg8-g1 h5-h4 69. Qg1-e3 Kh3-h2 70. Kf7-f6 h4-h3 71. Qe3-e2 Kh2-g3 72. Qe2-e3 Kg3-g2 73. Qe3-e2 Kg2-g3 74. Qe2-f1 h3-h2 75. Qf1-h1 Kg3-h3 76. Kf6-f5 Kh3-g3 77. Kf5-g5 Kg3-h3 78. Kg5-f4 Kh3-h4 79. Qh1xh2 |
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| Feb-27-07 | | drukenknight: How to mess up the ponziani, one problem white runs into is when the black Q becomes active, it seems obvious now what white's mistake is, but didnt at the time,good one to think about... 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 4. Qd1-a4 Bf8-e7 5. Bf1-c4 O-O 6. Nf3-g5 d7-d5 7. e4xd5 Nf6xd5 8. Bc4xd5 Qd8xd5 9. Ng5-f3 Bc8-d7 10. Qa4-c2 e5-e4 11. c3-c4 Qd5-f5 12. Nf3-g1 Be7-c5 13. Ng1-h3 Qf5-g6 14. Nh3-f4 Qg6-g5 15. d2-d4 Nc6xd4 16. Qc2xe4 Rf8-e8 17. Nf4-e6 Qg5xc1 0-1 |
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| Mar-03-07 | | drukenknight: The answer to those pesky people who play ...Bc4 vs Ponziani (see careful cat discussion above). The Philidors Defense in Reverse! This is brilliant, okay the original idea of the romantic openings was theattack on f7, but then philidor came along and created the stong pt defense around e5. So then Ponziani stopped playing the romantic Spanish and Italian and created a Q/B battery. Now some players e.g. careful cat are counterattacking w/ ...Bc5. here is the basic move order
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Bc5 ..would you believe Sam Lloyd and his father 1855 were first to reach this? Marcozy, Lowenthal Staunton played at least one game of this. Lowent/Stanton played an 1857 corr. game. 4. Qc2 ...okay this is the novelty that I think is best way to deal with the break out move ..d5 and subsequent Q moves. Giving up on the Q/B battery approach... 4...Nf6 ..Crum/ Jenkin Glasgow 1878 was first to reach this via different move order, only 8 games in data base 5. d3 O-O
6. Bg5 right out of the text book for philidor players to pin the N, but I am playing it as white! 6...d5
7. Nbd2 a5 (there is at least one Alkehine game where he begins a q side advance vs. philidors) 8. Be2 ..Now look what white has achieved he has the ideal position of philidors w/ pawns on c3/d3/e4; the QN has gone to d2 which was the way philidor played in the old days, the Q is on c2. Now this defense is very formidable and white is playing it w/ a move in hand! 8....Ng4
9. Bxd8 Bxf2+
10. Kd1 Ne3+
11. Kc1 Nxc2
12. Kxc2 Rxd8
13. exd5 Rxd5
14. Raf1 Be3
15. Nc4 Bh6
16. Nfd2 Bd7
17. Bf3 Rc5
uhhh, okay wait a minute here, I think there is something I left out. |
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| Mar-11-07 | | get Reti: I've had good success against jester with 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. Qc2. It's been played 101 times on chessbase. I like it because it protects the e4 pawn, so you now have two advaced pawns instead of one. |
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Jun-13-07
 | | WarmasterKron: Here's an idea I had today for the Scotch Gambit, of which I have found no information regarding. 1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.d4 exd4
4.Bc4 f5!?
I suppose the idea is that after 5.exf5, Black can play 5...d5 and 6...Bxf5, which seems ok. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | sneaky pete: <WarmasterKron> Very original and probably new, but is it good? I like white's game after 5.exf5 d5 6.Bd3 Bxf5 7.Bxf5 .. but the real test is 5.e5 .. when black has only compromised his king's side and impeded his queen's bishop. After 5.e5 d5 both 6.exd6 Bx6 7.0-0 .. and 6.Bb5 .. look promising. |
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Jun-13-07
| | WarmasterKron: Is it good? I've no idea! I've yet to put it to a proper practical test; it's very much in the early stages. Bxf5 is an obvious blunder after 6.Bd3, so it's probably better for Black use the gain of time on the bishop to develop. I suspect you're right that 5.e5 is the greatest test, so some work on that is needed. |
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| Jul-27-07 | | valuim97: I think that an good opening would be the Taylor's(the name I found at Chessmaster). 1.e4 e5 2. f3 c6 3. e2!?
That would be an improvement at 3.d3, because of 3...d5. One line: 1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.e2 f3 4.d3 d5 5.bd2 c5 6.00 00. |
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| Jul-28-07 | | valuim97: I found other name(the one you found at Wikipedia) Inverted Hungarian Defense |
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| Nov-08-07 | | Robert James: Hello,
About ponziani, i played this game recently. It was a 15min game and i was black. Im quite a patzer and i thought if one of you could check it out and maybe give some comments. I think i was defending the whole game, but luckily my opponent ran out of time. How could black play for attack and initiative? I dont like my play, its too passive, but i always end up playing like this. Thanks. 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Nf6
4. d3 d6
5. Be2 Be7
6. 0-0 Bg4
7. Be3 Bxf3
8. Bxf3 0-0
9. Nd2 b6
10. d4 Nb8
11. dxe5 dxe5
12. Nc4 Nbd7
13. a4 c5
14. Bg5 h6
15. Bxf6 Bxf6
16. Nd6 a5
17. Bg4 Qe7
18. Nb5 Nb8
19. Qd5 Ra6
20. Rad1 Rd8
21. Qc4 Nc6
22. Rxd8+ Qxd8
23. Rd1 Qe7
24. Rd7 Qf8
25. Nd6 Ra7
26. Rxa7 Nxa7
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| Jan-09-08 | | D.Observer: Would the popularity of this opening increase this year? |
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| Aug-01-08 | | Silverstrike: An interesting loss of mine in this opening.
White: Julius Schwartz (1679)
Black: Elliot Sloan (1856)
March the 30th 2008
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Be7 4.d4 exd4 5.c3 dxc3 6.0-0 (I should've played 6.Qd5) 6...d6 7.Nxc3 Nf6 8.Bg5 0-0 9.Qc2 a6 10.Rad1 b5 11.Bb3 Bg4 12.e5 Nxf3 13.exf6 Bxf6 14.Bxf6 Bxd1 15.Nxd1 Qxf6 16.Qxc6 Rfe8 17.Qc2 c5 18.a3 c4 19.Ba2 d5 20.Bb1 g6 21.f4 d4 22.f5 d3 23.Qc1 Qd4+ 24.Kh1 d2 25.Qc3 Re1 26.Qf3 Rae8 27.Resigns |
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| Aug-25-08 | | drukenknight: Reverse Philidor's comes to an amusing end. I've given up trying to bash people who play ....Bc5 against my ponziani, so I've decided to play philidor's in reverse and let them show me how to play it. THis gets confusing when I start using black's tactics e.g. pinning the N on f6.. 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Bc5
4. d3 Nf6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. Qc2 O-O
7. Nbd2 d5
8. O-O-O dxe4
9. dxe4 Nxe4? (probably ..Ng4 is fine)
10. Nxe4 Bxg5+
11. Nfxg5 Qe7
Position after 11..Qe7, funny huh?
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| Aug-27-08 | | drukenknight: Insane ponziani-DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT A COMPUTER. We played 7, quite obvious, moves into this and threw up our hands in despair: 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Nf6
4. Qa4 Be7 (makes sense, but only two games in the data base?) 5. Bc4 apparently no one has tried this.
5...d5
6. exd5 Nxd5
7. Nxe5 Nb6
Position afer 7...Nb6 okay now what?
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| Apr-06-09 | | c o r e: Since it's the opening of the day, I'll have to comment here: I love playing the Ponziani during casual games on breaks at work. It never fails to create wild open positions! |
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| Jul-15-09 | | drukenknight: We play the Ponziani w/ 3...Bc5 following in the footsteps of Horwitz as well as Samuel Lloyd... 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Bc5
4. b4 Bb6
5. b5 Na5
6. Nxe5 Qe7
7. d4 d6
8. Nf3 the novelty; 3 games in the crap database got to 8 Ba3 including Horwitz/Harrwitz 1846, and Sam Lloyd and his father …Qxe4+
9. Be2 Bg4
10. Nbd2 Qe6
11. O-O Ne7
12. Re1 O-O
13. Bd3 Qd7
14. Qc2 h6
15. Ne4 (I did this just to open the g file.)
15... Bxf3
16. gxf3 Ng6
17. Ng3 Qh3 (..c5 maybe sounder but game is still ok) 18. Bf5 Qh4
19. Re4 Qf6
20. Rg4
Position after 20 Rg4 how does it continue:
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| Jul-16-09 | | blacksburg: what's the big deal with this line? <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Nf6> or <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4>
click for larger viewrecently, like half of my games against 1.e4 end up in this position. i'm not complaining, i like playing black's position here. is there some new repertoire book that recommends this line? no one has played the ruy lopez against me in a week or so online, it's always this, or some other garbage line. ok maybe it's not garbage, but i'm not scared of it at all, and i'm easy to scare in the opening. |
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Aug-07-09
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<Göring Gambit <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.c3>> 
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Opening Explorer Following one main line with <4... dxc3 5.Nxc3 Bb4 6.Bc4 Nf6 7.e5 d5 8.exf6 dxc4 9.Qxd8+ Nxd8 10.fxg7 Rg8 11.Bh6> 
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Opening Explorer leads to a difficult if not lost position for black. |
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| Aug-16-09 | | drukenknight: well dont take the pawn (4...dxc3) Ive found a lot of these openings work better when I dont keep grabbing more pawns. |
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| Aug-22-10 | | rapidcitychess: Opening of the day is the Goring gambit. Seems pretty unsound, at least as much as sound as the Danish. Then again, I think no gambits are sound in my materialism. I really need to get over that. |
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| May-07-11 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Ponziani's Opening
1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.c3 |
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| Feb-11-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Konstantinopolsky Opening
1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.g3
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| Mar-18-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Goring Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.d4 exd4 4.c3
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