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Theodor von Scheve
Von Scheve 
Number of games in database: 133
Years covered: 1879 to 1911

Overall record: +42 -69 =21 (39.8%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 1 exhibition game, blitz/rapid, odds game, etc. is excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Queen's Pawn Game (20) 
    D02 D04 D05 D00
 Ruy Lopez (9) 
    C77 C62 C60 C80 C78
 Queen's Gambit Declined (6) 
    D37 D35 D30
 King's Gambit Accepted (6) 
    C39 C33
 King's Gambit Declined (4) 
    C30 C31
With the Black pieces:
 French Defense (17) 
    C01 C13 C14 C02 C15
 Ruy Lopez (15) 
    C77 C67 C74 C78 C80
 Vienna Opening (7) 
    C26 C25 C29
 King's Gambit Accepted (6) 
    C39 C35
 French (5) 
    C13 C00
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Von Scheve vs Spielmann, 1907 1-0
   Tarrasch vs Von Scheve, 1890 1/2-1/2
   Von Scheve vs Zukertort, 1887 1-0
   J Mieses vs Von Scheve, 1887 0-1
   J Mortimer vs Von Scheve, 1890 0-1
   Von Scheve vs Chigorin, 1902 1-0
   Schlechter vs Von Scheve, 1901 0-1
   Von Scheve vs Blackburne, 1901 1-0
   Von Scheve vs A Reggio, 1901 1-0
   Paulsen vs Von Scheve, 1887 0-1

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   1st Cafe de la Regence Masters Tournament (1902)
   Monte Carlo (1901)
   Monte Carlo (1904)
   Manchester (1890)
   Frankfurt (1887)
   Monte Carlo (1902)
   9th DSB Kongress, Leipzig (1894)
   Ostend-B (1907)

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(born Jun-11-1851, died Apr-19-1922, 70 years old) Germany

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Theodor von Scheve was born in Cosel in the Prussian Province of Silesia. His best result was a tie for 3rd place with Chigorin at Monte Carlo (1901).

Theodor also played consultation chess on the teams of B Lasker / von Scheve / Trobach, Boelke / Naumann / von Scheve & Tarrasch / von Bardeleben / von Scheve / Schotlaender.

Wikipedia article: Theodor von Scheve

Last updated: 2018-06-11 20:26:18

 page 1 of 6; games 1-25 of 149  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0191879BreslauB13 Caro-Kann, Exchange
2. Von Scheve vs Tarrasch 0-1301880BresslauC30 King's Gambit Declined
3. Von Scheve vs Tarrasch 0-1151880BreslauC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
4. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0341883NurnbergC01 French, Exchange
5. Steinitz vs Von Scheve  1-0411886New YorkC35 King's Gambit Accepted, Cunningham
6. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0221887BerlinC47 Four Knights
7. J Mieses vs Von Scheve 0-1321887BerlinC26 Vienna
8. Von Scheve vs Blackburne 0-12418875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtD00 Queen's Pawn Game
9. Von Bardeleben vs Von Scheve  1-03218875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC01 French, Exchange
10. Gunsberg vs Von Scheve 0-13718875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC25 Vienna
11. Schiffers vs Von Scheve  1-03118875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC55 Two Knights Defense
12. Von Scheve vs A Fritz 1-02118875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC47 Four Knights
13. Von Scheve vs Metger  1-06118875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC14 French, Classical
14. M Weiss vs Von Scheve 1-03818875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC77 Ruy Lopez
15. Von Scheve vs J Noa 1-02018875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtB06 Robatsch
16. Von Scheve vs Taubenhaus  0-13318875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC47 Four Knights
17. Burn vs Von Scheve  1-05018875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtD05 Queen's Pawn Game
18. Von Gottschall vs Von Scheve 1-04918875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC25 Vienna
19. Von Scheve vs Zukertort  1-03718875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtD05 Queen's Pawn Game
20. Von Scheve vs Tarrasch 0-15518875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtD04 Queen's Pawn Game
21. Von Scheve vs Mackenzie 0-13218875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
22. E Schallopp vs Von Scheve ½-½7218875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC01 French, Exchange
23. Alapin vs Von Scheve  ½-½2218875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC01 French, Exchange
24. Paulsen vs Von Scheve 0-14118875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC02 French, Advance
25. Von Scheve vs J N Berger  ½-½2418875th DSB Congress, FrankfurtC50 Giuoco Piano
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Feb-15-07  vonKrolock: <SBC> You're welcome! Of course, <sneaky pete>'s message is much more consistent, original and informative...
Jun-07-09  myschkin: . . .

Von Scheve, der recht spät zum Schach fand, hat nach Siegbert Tarrasch s Einschätzung „der Schachwelt das vielleicht einzig dastehende Schauspiel gegeben, wie sich ein guter Spieler noch im reifen Mannesalter zum wirklichen Meister entwickelt“. Er nahm in den Jahren 1887 bis 1911 mit bemerkenswerten Erfolgen an vielen internationalen Turnieren teil. Unter anderem wurde er Vierter in Leipzig 1888 und Dritter in Monte Carlo 1901.

Bio (in English):

Jun-07-09  Calli: <Mischkin> sehr populär bio hier, zweimal in nur sechs Anmerkungen :-)
Jun-07-09  myschkin: . . .

Woups², Kro must have entered my ignore somehow (cheap subterfuge) ... <Calli> from now on you're a birate!

Congrats Captain

Schwamm drüber, mein Monokel muss wohl mal zum User: Autoreparaturwerkbau;)

Sep-23-11  zydeco: Here's some information on von Scheve, all from Google Books.

He was a major in the Prussian arms (seems to have been in the artillery) stationed for a time with the Emperor of China, who decorated him personally.

- George Greville More, More Society Recollections

"Von Scheve is considered one of the most studious masters in Germany. He is not thought to be very strong, but if once he gets a theoretical advantage in a game he is apt to win against the strongest antagonist."

- Checkmate Magazine, Vol 1

Steinitz says that von Scheve "is regarded as a player who has learned much [he seems to have started playing seriously when he was fairly old] and plays correctly according to the principles of the modern school."

- International Chess Magazine, Vol 7

Dec-29-13  Karpova: His son, also named Theodor von Scheve, has been at the front as a Lieutenant since the beginning of the war. In November, he was awarded the <Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse> and wounded in March. He returned from the front on June 6.

His other son, Götz von Scheve, has also been at the front since the beginning of the war. He was awarded the <Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse> in November and lately with the <Eiserne Kreuz 1. Klasse> and the <Ritterkreuz des Sachsen-Ernestinischen Hausordens>.

Their father and the famous Chessmaster, Theodor von Scheve himself also had the <Eiserne Kreuz> since the battles of 1870. His father got the same medal in 1841.

Source: Page 108 of the May-June 1915 'Wiener Schachzeitung'

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  MissScarlett: <The Chess News>, vol. 11, no. 113, pp.29-30, January 17, 1916:

<The ranks of the German chess players are being depleted by the European war. Out of 1215 who were reported as having joined the colors, 210 were either killed or wounded. It is pleasing to note, however, that 166 have won an Iron Cross. Tartakower is one who received a decoration, but the master, Von Scheve, is among those killed.>

It's not clear if this is a mix-up, or if the son was also a master.

Jun-11-16  TheFocus: Happy birthday, Theodor von Scheve.
Jul-07-17  zanzibar: The German-speakers already noted this quote by Tarrasch:

<Von Scheve, der recht spät zum Schach fand, hat nach Tarraschs Einschätzung „der Schachwelt das vielleicht einzig dastehende Schauspiel gegeben, wie sich ein guter Spieler noch im reifen Mannesalter zum wirklichen Meister entwickelt“.[1] >

But they didn't let the rest of us in on it...

I can't really understand the google translation properly:

<Von Scheve, who was quite late to chess, has, according to Tarrrrr's assessment, "given to the chess world the perhaps only acting play, as a good player still develops in the mature man's age to the real master." [1]>

Perhaps this is a better translation:

<From Scheve, who was rather late for chess, " the chess world, where perhaps only unexampled spectacle of a good player is still developing in mature manhood, to the real master " has by Tarrasch assessment.>


Jun-11-18  offramp:
<Von Scheve took up chess fairly late in life. In Tarrasch's estimation Von Scheve <has given the current chess world a unique example of a good player still developing in late adulthood to genuine master level.>>

That looks like a reasonable translation of what Tarrasch was saying.

Jun-11-18  morfishine: <offramp> perhaps this is the best translation: <Having spent the first half of his life as a Prussian army officer tasked with slaughtering human beings under the guise of war, Von Scheve spent the last half of his life slaughtering chess opponents with an ability rarely seen by one who took up this honorable profession so late in life>


Jun-11-18  WorstPlayerEver: <MissScarlett>

Probably a mistake. Von Scheve's 'Der Geist des Schachspiels : eine Studie' was published in 1919.

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  Telemus: <offramp> You forgot to translate the word "vielleicht".
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  ChessHigherCat: I'm no GoogleTranslate fan but in this case the bad translation is not its fault because the author should obviously have written "Beispiel" (example) instead of Schauspiel" (play/spectacle).

Yet another example of Garbage-in Garbage-out

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  Telemus: <CHC: the author should obviously have written "Beispiel" (example) instead of Schauspiel" (play/spectacle).> Tarrasch's formulation is old-fashioned from todays point of view, but perfectly understandable in German.

BTW, Tarrasch's quote is from "Dreihundert Schachpartien", chapter 1 "Breslau 1862-1880" (page 3 in the 2nd edition, and page 2 in the edition of Jens-Erik Rudolph, 2012).

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  ChessHigherCat: <Telemus>:

I'm fluent in German and don't like it. Look:

<Von Scheve, der recht spät zum Schach fand, hat nach Tarraschs Einschätzung „der Schachwelt das vielleicht einzig dastehende Schauspiel gegeben, wie sich ein guter Spieler noch im reifen Mannesalter zum wirklichen Meister entwickelt>

"In Tarrarsch's estimation, von Scheme, who took up chess quite late in life, "has given the world of chess perhaps the only [SPECTACLE OR EXAMPLE?] of how a good player can still become a real master after reaching adulthood."

Germans always defend one another but which would be the better choice here, Spectacle ("play" would be ridiculous of course) or Example? Spectacle would be conceivable in a figurative sense but only if it were really a dramatic occurrence, and I don't think an adult becoming a master is quite dramatic enough.

Jun-11-18  WorstPlayerEver: <CHC>

'Schauspiel' means they had no tv or youtube. So anything quickly could become a 'Schauspiel'. Certainly if it is -still- something extraordinary, I suppose

My interpretation.

Jun-11-18  john barleycorn: <spectacle> is closest to Tarrasch's intentions.

<demonstration> would be neutral, imo.

then <einzig darstehende Schauspiel> would not be <only spectacle> but <unique/peerless spectacle>

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  ChessHigherCat: Fischer vs. Spassky is spectacular, but the late-bloomer Theodor von Scheve getting a master's norm in adulthood? I can hardly contain my bodily fluids!
Jun-12-18  offramp: <Telemus: <offramp> You forgot to translate the word "vielleicht".>

Perhaps I did.

Jun-12-18  zanzibar: <CHC> your elaboration is helpful in understanding google's confusing translation - where I take it PLAY isn't chess play but a SPECTACLE PLAY.
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  ChessHigherCat: I honestly think he probably just misspoke and confused Beispiel (example) and Schauspiel (drama/spectacle), which are very similar words. People make that kind of mistake all the time.
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  Telemus: Scheve vs Walbrodt, 4th match game, 17 Oct 1891 (Black to move):

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To me 38.. g5 looks like the most simple way to draw. White's tempo moves lead nowhere and he cannot bring his king to the center.

Walbrodt played 38.. ♔g5? -+. It followed 39.b5! f5. This move got a ? in Budapesti Sakk-Szemle no. 12 (1891). 40.f4+! ♔f6 41.fxe5+ ♔xe5 and White has several winning moves.

39.. f6 was better, but cannot save the game.

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40.b3! and the remaining tempo move is just good enough. Interesting variations for analysis happen after 40.. f5 41.f4+ exf4 42.♔f3 or 40.. ♔f5 41.h4!! (another 'only move').

Sep-20-20  login:


'.. dass es sich dabei um eine zwecklose und der Freude dienende Tätigkeit handelt [the Spiel part], welche dazu dient von allen gesehen zu werden [the Schau part].'

See 'Aristotle, Metaphysics, Book 7, section 1041b'

There is simply no adequate 1:1 english vocab, happens. Author's use is/was common - nothing to criticize (you pedantic Krauts ... how about explaining 'Naturschauspiel' next).

Sep-20-20  login:

'.. Scheve, Sekonde-Lieutnant Theodor Adolf Louis v., aus Neisse, 2. Oberschlesisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr.23, leicht verwundet durch Streifschuß am rechten Oberarm im Gefecht bei L`Hay am 30.September [1870] ..'


You get shot, you get this

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Background (German)

And some non-military Scheve (in German)

'.. Beim täglichen Dienst in Neisse spielt von Scheve auf dem Wege von und zu den Schießständen blind gegen sich selbst. In der Ausgabe von 1876/77 der „Rang- und Quartierliste der Königlich-Preussischen Armee“ fehlt dann erstmals sein Name in der Offiziersliste des 2. Oberschlesischen Infanterieregiments Nr. 23 und erscheint dafür in der kleingedruckten Rubrik „Abgänge“. - Jawohl, er hat das Militär verlassen - wegen des Schachs! ... Im Jahre 1877 Mitbegründer des Breslauer Vereins, ging er von 1885 bis 1887 aus unbekannten Gründen nach China. Nach der Rückkehr aus China nun ließ von Scheve kaum ein nationales oder internationales Turnier aus und spielte, von manchem als Enthusiast belächelt, immer stärker. Nach dem im 50sten Lebensjahr erzielten größten Erfolg, dem geteilten 3. Platz im Eliteturnier von Monte Carlo 1901, darf man von Scheve wohl als eine schillernde Figur, eine Art „Dandy“ der internationalen Schachszene ansehen. Manchmal verbringt er einen Winter in Marseille, manchmal in Algier (wo im Café „Continental“ immer 3 Tische für die befreundeten Spieler und ihn reserviert sind), setzt zu einem Turnier nach Amerika über oder gibt Simultanvorstellungen in Russland. ..'


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