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| Sep-08-07 | | Karpova: He's from the USA and (according to Eric Schiller) 9 years old.
He has no FIDE rating but a USCF rating of 2029
http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMa...
http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.ph... |
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| Sep-08-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <Karpova: He's from the USA and (according to Eric Schiller) 9 years old> In April 2007, USCF listed him as the top 8-year old in the US (see http://beta.uschess.org/frontend/se...), and in June 2007, he moved to the 9-year old category (where he's again ranked as #1 in August 2007) |
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Sep-08-07
 | | WannaBe: As I have posted before, in reference to Ray Robson, I can beat this kid too! But I'd go to prison afterwards... |
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Nov-26-07
 | | Eric Schiller: Nicky is headed for a real challenge in two weeks: a match against me! The games should be interesting. |
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| Nov-26-07 | | Jim Bartle: Please don't give him "the stare," Eric. |
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| Nov-26-07 | | Shams: Eric, do upload the games. I want to see how my former student is doing. |
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Nov-26-07
| | WannaBe: <Eric Schiller> What's the time control?! How many games? |
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Nov-26-07
| | Eric Schiller: Game 60, either 4 or 6 games. Probably 4. |
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| Dec-15-07 | | chessmonstar: Match is done. Final score Nip 4 Schiller 2...hopefully Eric will post the games soon... |
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| Dec-19-07 | | Whitehat1963: A "Christmasy" kind of name. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | MostlyAverageJoe: Well, Nicholas Nip is now the youngest Master in the US history at the age of 9 years 11 months. Improved Nakamura's record by 4 months. More details here: http://www.calchess.org/modules.php... |
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| Mar-09-08 | | Eyal: <Improved Nakamura's record by 4 months.> Yeah, and Nakamura was very ungracious about it...
<The other record, which I lost this week was the record of youngest American Master. This record was broken by Nicolas Nip, a Chinese kid out in San Francisco. Generally, I do not mind positive reports about junior chess in America; however, I did notice that when looking up Nips tournaments, he gained a lot of points via matches. Whether this is legit or not does not really matter to me as holding a record for 10 year (half my life) is more than long enough. Nevertheless, I think the USCF should attempt to modify the rules so that matches such as the ones Nip are not an easy for people to just gain rating points and manipulate the system.> (http://hikarunakamura.com/main/Blog...) |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dombat40: Sounds like sour grapes to me. |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dasp3edd3m0n: Not really - his points are completely legitimate. How about you try debunking his argument instead of labeling him as a sore loser? Oh right, you can't. |
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Mar-09-08
 | | alexmagnus: How is playing matches manipulating the rating system???? |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dasp3edd3m0n: Because it's an unfair way to gain points in order to break a momentous record. Matches don't show one's true playing strength, it just shows one's strength relative to ONE person. |
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| Mar-09-08 | | Jim Bartle: Is there an implication here that his match opponents are throwing games to him? Or maybe that he's playing matches vs. players with inflated ratings? |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dasp3edd3m0n: Jim, that's clearly the "Elephant in the Room" regarding this topic. Anyway, I'm not one to spread negative sentiment, although when such a significant record has been broken it's perfectly natural to question the means by which it was broken. And simply put, the means look fishy. |
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Mar-09-08
 | | tpstar: I am also skeptical about rated training matches against juniors, but for the exact opposite reason: it is just too easy for adults to inflate their ratings against such inexperienced players. A TD in my area often plays or arranges such matches; catching up with the juniors later, I can't say they've been taught anything by the process, although perhaps that's not the point anyway. =) Nakamura was clearly in a bad mood when he wrote that paragraph. A few sentences before, he openly accused a player who would allegedly "toss games" in a blitz tournament, and then he transitions into venting about Nip's record. Still, there must have been a more tactful way to congratulate Nip for his milestone achievement. Two sentences worth pondering. First, "I do not mind positive reports about junior chess in America" is an incredibly strange reaction to headlines promoting the game. Second, calling him "a Chinese kid" is plain jarring since people have long supported Nakamura's *American* upbringing. |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dombat40: <dasp3edd3m0n>, so are you saying that Nip cheated the system? |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dombat40: <<Improved Nakamura's record by 4 months.> Yeah, and Nakamura was very ungracious about it...> Nakamura sounding "ungracious" - nothing new there.
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| Mar-09-08 | | Jim Bartle: The record we're talking about is youngest master in US history, right? Maybe somebody could point me toward a list of the players who have held this distinction. My guess is that most (not all) would be names long forgotten, not a list of future top GMs. |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dasp3edd3m0n: Yeah dombat, I am. I'm not going to grace such a dim-witted mind with any more words if you cannot see the obvious manipulation of the rating system regarding Nicholas Nip's rating. His tournament history speaks for itself - his parents and coaches picked and chose his opponents in order for him to play isolated matches in which the odds favored him.
And, for the second time now dombat, how about you stop making personal attacks against Nakamura and try to debunk his logic? |
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| Mar-09-08 | | dombat40: So Nicholas Nip cheated the system. And that's that. And Nakamura ranting like an insecure loser. That's fine too. |
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| Mar-09-08 | | WillC21: <dombat40><So Nicholas Nip cheated the system. And that's that. And Nakamura ranting like an insecure loser. That's fine too.> You're extrapolating too much. No one has gone so far as to make the (very serious) accusation that Nip "cheated". Not sure what made you think someone did. Fact is "Player A" could choose to play against a limited number of weaker players in matches, and keep beating them. This closed pool match system would artificially increase Player A's rating relative to if Player A were playing in tournaments where he couldn't pick and choose his opponents (and couldn't excessively beat up on a given player or players). Now I'm too lazy to look up what % of Nip's games were matches, but since no one has countered Naka's claim, I am going to assume it's not an immaterial amount. |
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