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| Apr-05-04 | | shr0pshire: I have good success with this against the King's Gambit. I have been trying to find a reliable defense against the King's Gambit, since I mostly run into it in blitz games. I find that this is aggressive for black (by going for the center) while, taking away some of white's tactical plays. |
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| Apr-05-04 | | electricknight: If you do the research you shouldn't
have any problems killing off the
Kings Gambit just study the theory
it's all there. |
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| Apr-28-04 | | MutinyFever: Nonsense. I love King's gambit. Abbazia Defense is certainly not the reply I most fear. I find 3... g5 most uncomfortable, but there is lots of white play even against that. Remember, Fischer revived King's Gambit, so how bad can it be? |
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| Apr-28-04 | | ughaibu: MutinyFever: How do you find the Falkbeer? |
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| Apr-28-04 | | seoulmama: Ughaibu, as a KG player, and having read Johansson's book on it, I can say that the Falkbeer is definitely not very good - if White succeeds in handling Black's tricks, he will find himself in a nice endgame ( in most cases that is ) with a marked strategig plus. KGA, with an "show me what you've got"- attitude is the most combative, and best, reaction to 2.f4. |
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| Apr-28-04 | | ughaibu: I see, thanks. |
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| Apr-30-04 | | MutinyFever: Falkbeer countergambit succeeded against me the first time I faced it, and not since then. I welcome it with a happy smile. I agree with seoulmama, all the really ferocious attempts at refutation are in King's Gambit Accepted.
(Also, let's get real. Most people are C or B level woodpushers, including me. What works for grandmasters isn't what works for us. We need chess we understand, and KG has never been refuted at the club level.) |
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| Apr-30-04 | | Clock1913: I've played players anywhere from 1800 to 2100 and I've never had a problem with it. The only time I lost as black was against my own coach. 3.. g5 is definetly the best response to nf3. |
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| Apr-30-04 | | ruylopez900: The best way to refute a gambit is to accept it! (I'm not sure who said this, just know it wasn't me :D) |
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| Apr-30-04 | | shr0pshire: I think this is just a quieter version of accepting the gambit, as opposed to versions such as the Paris Attack (1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 3... g5 4. h4). I seem to prefer the Abbazia in blitz games and in traditional time controls I prefer lines such as the paris attack, where I have more time to think of tactics. |
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| May-01-04 | | MutinyFever: This looks like a sharp version of Falkbeer to me Shr0pshire. I think it is more powerful than 2... d5, containing the merits without the weaknesses. Still, what you call Paris attack is what thrills and frightens me. I call it Rosentreter Gambit, because that's my standard reply. (1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4.d4 g4 5.Bxf4 gxf3 6.Qxf3 with an incredibly tactical battle to follow.) I don't blitz much. Rosentreter is far too treacherous for a five minute game. |
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| May-01-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: after 1 e4 e5 2 f4 exf4 3 Nf3 g5 4 d4, playing ...g4 seems like an unnecessary risk when Black can just remain a pawn up with a clear plus after ...Bg7 followed by ...h6. |
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| May-01-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: Actually, I would go so far as to say that 4 h4! is forced as a reply to 3...g5 as a means of liquidating the pawn chain, similar to how after 1 d4 d5 2 c4 dxc4 3 e4 b5 White 'must' play 4 a4. I don't doubt that the Rosentreter, Quaade, and lines after 4 Bc4 offer quite a few traps for the unsuspecting player plus good development / SOME compensation in exchange for his pawn (or piece if Black risks ...g4), but the fact of the matter is Black is up material and can easily consolidate if he knows what he's doing theorywise. |
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| May-30-04 | | ruylopez900: To continue in the Abbazia Defense would oyu play exd5 (killing off Black's last centre pawn) then Nc3 to gain time off the Queen? d3 doesn't look nice as it isn't conducive to rapid kingside development (point of the KG). d4 seems a bit weak as the two centre pawns may lack defense later on. Any help would be appreciated. |
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| May-30-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: Check the opening explorer; the main line runs 3...d5 4. exd5 (4. e5?! doesn't offer much, 4. d4?! drops a pawn, and 4. d3? dxe4 5. dxe4 Qxd1+ 6. Kxd1 is just idiotic) 4...Nf6 (4...Qxd5?! allows White to get a solid plus in development, which is not the idea behind 3...d5) and now White usually plays 5. Bb5+, 5. Bc4, or 5. Nc3, all of which give him a minimal advantage, if any. |
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| May-30-04 | | ruylopez900: <Bill> Thanks for the insights. |
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| May-30-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: Sure! |
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| May-30-04 | | refutor: bill, any opinion on the allgaier 4.h4 g4 5.Ng5? i'm sure it's not playable at the super g level (refer to Morozevich vs Kasparov, 1995 ) but i'm sure practically at lower levels it can't be any worse than the muzio, and doesn't allow 4. ...Bg7? |
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| Jun-24-05 | | waddayaplay: I know that L. Pachman called this the "modern treatment" of the KG. (in 1975 or so) , and further "perhaps not the strongest, but at least certainly the most solid reply". |
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| Aug-01-05 | | gambitfan: 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 c6 4. Nc3 exf4 5. Nf3 By transposition, Falkbeer counter gambit == Abazzia defense !! |
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| Oct-06-06 | | Microbe: I play the Allgaier <Refutor> and I enjoy it very much. It may not be sound but it certainly gives your opponent a shock =D |
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| Jun-28-07 | | Marvol: Rather odd that Gallagher has faced this opening 12 times, as white, in the short period of 1986-1992 - not before, not since. Strange coincidence... or a bias in the database? |
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| Nov-02-07 | | pawnofdoom: I always play this agsint the King's Gambit. Is Abbazia in this database? He came up with this defense, but I can't find him anywhere |
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| Nov-02-07 | | Resignation Trap: Abbazia was a place, not a player. It was the former name of Opatija, in present-day Croatia. |
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| Nov-02-07 | | whiteshark: There is a book about this thematic tournament:
King's Gambit Accepted Tournament <Abbazia 1912>
by Anthony J. Gillam. Publisher: The Chess Player, Nottingham, 1984 |
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