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Magnus Carlsen vs Alireza Firouzja
12th Norway Chess (2024), Stavanger NOR, rd 5, Jun-01
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Rio Gambit Accepted (C67)  ·  1-0

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1-0

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Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: I agree. White might play Re7 just because and see what happens.
Jun-01-24
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  HeMateMe: I like rook to the 7th rank
Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: Black might try 26...Rb7.
Jun-01-24
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  offramp: 32...Rc2+.


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If the white king goes to h6 then White could be winning.

Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: Poor time management by Ferocious Ali....
Jun-01-24
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  perfidious: The queenside pawns disappear, then the resultant 3:2 ending should be drawn.
Jun-01-24
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  HeMateMe: Is this a TB draw, with perfect play by black?
Jun-01-24
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  perfidious: In R+4 vs R+3, both players should aim to get the pawn to h5. Even here, Black can draw, but things are tougher when the superior side gains so much space.
Jun-01-24
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  perfidious: Classic example of R+4 vs R+3:

Duras vs Capablanca, 1913

Jun-01-24  whiteshark: Well, the black pawn configuration is perhaps suboptimal. Will it be enough to win? In any case, black will have to defend accurately for some time.

Game Collection: 11_R+P (3:2)|| on the same wing

Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: I think it's drawn but 9 pieces is too much for the tables.
Jun-01-24
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  perfidious: <whiteshark>, as I said, the defender's task is more difficult if he lets the opponent get the pawn to the fifth rank.

I had this ending twice and my first opponent did not defend correctly and lost, but the second one held the draw by getting his pawn to h5.

Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: That was quick....
Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: Black might already be lost, but 77...Rxd6 was terrible.
Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: Thanks for the game.
Jun-01-24  Yuri Stremel: Death, taxes, Carlsen beating Firouzja
Jun-01-24  whiteshark: <The defender's worst nightmare is called a "pawn endgame". <>>

ibid

Jun-01-24
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  perfidious: All sorts of chatter after Carlsen lost to Pragg, but it appears to have quietened as he has booked two straight since.
Jun-01-24
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Perfidious,

Most of the comments on that threads game were because they had Anand's face on the dancing Rook. Other than that Carlsen won this game, everyone is so used to it what more can one say.

And speaking of Rooks. I saw Ohio's comment so at I looked review game. Rxd6 looks bad, Black can put up stiffer resistance by keeping the Rooks on. The Black King appears to be in the right area. (hark at me trying to pretend I know what I'm talking about in a Rook ending.)

More likely is Black did not fancy sitting through a grind to try and get a draw only to face Carlsen in Armageddon.

Jun-01-24
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  OhioChessFan: <Sally> trading Rooks was a resignation. I would tip my King over instead.
Jun-01-24
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  FSR: ♫♪♫ How do you think he does it, I don't know, what makes him so good ♫♪♫
Jun-02-24
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Ohio,

Is it as bad as that. I'm sad enough to continue with the Rooks on till I am convinced.

Jun-02-24
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  HeMateMe: Apparently, it was not a table base draw. Someone noted earlier this week that "Magnus has a habit of winning these kind of [GM drawish] games."
Jun-02-24
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  Sally Simpson: I'm reading the chessbase report on this round https://en.chessbase.com/post/norwa... apparently Black can hold the draw if they play Rb1 instead of 77..Rxd6. Good because I was toiling to see a forced win after Rb1. I thought it would be tricky. The Black King is very handy.

I can use this. It's topical. A good player messed it up. How to hold it and then onto the distant opposition Carlsen used to win it. I'll get one of other coaches to do it. 🤷‍♂️

Jun-08-24  tonsillolith: Carlsen gives Firouzja another lesson on opposition in endgames?!
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