Veselin Topalov vs Sergey Karjakin (2016)

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Veselin Topalov vs Sergey Karjakin
World Championship Candidates (2016), Moscow RUS, rd 5, Mar-16
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15) · 1/2-1/2

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Mar-16-16		Tatumart: Time out, almost....

Mar-16-16		parmetd: Seems Nac5 is only good move here. White is not far from letting the position get out of hand. After Q trade position seemed nice for white with options like Nc2, Nb2 or Rfc1 but this one move Nd3? Gave black so much life.

Mar-16-16		Ulhumbrus: 28 Bf3 may have been more exact than 28 Nd3,not allowing the manoeuvre ...Nf6-g4-e3

Mar-16-16		Ulhumbrus: 33...f5 may have been the idea behind 31...Be4

Mar-16-16		Ulhumbrus: Instead of strengthening Black's centre by 34 Nxe4 Topalov undermines it by 34 g4

Mar-16-16		offramp: <parmetd: Seems Nac5 is only good move here.> I agree.

Mar-16-16		chancho: Giri, giddy as a schoolgirl after another half point. Even Petrosian would be uncomfortable.

Mar-16-16		boz: I give the edge to White here. Black's pawns look more vulnerable.

Mar-16-16		Willber G: The real time is 14-13

Mar-16-16		chessdgc2: No, it doesn't look like White is letting the game slip out of hand in terms of losing, but he no longer seems to have an advantage, either. Yes, Black likely played ...Be4 to shield the d-pawn and defend aagainst Nc5. I really don't see either playing winning thisyet. Since Topa needs a win, he might pull something fancy

Mar-16-16		Ulhumbrus: 37 Kf2 puts White's king to work while Black's king does nothing to attack the e2 pawn

Mar-16-16		Marmot PFL: Another good game by Karjakin. Good time management and no fear of any opponents so far.

Mar-16-16		BOSTER: Now black has to fighting for draw.

Mar-16-16		perfidious: <chancho: Giri, giddy as a schoolgirl after another half point.> lmao

Mar-16-16		Pedro Fernandez: It seems Topalov wants the bishop. This is the kind of games where Fisher or Tal were great, on both sides!

Mar-16-16		offramp: I think Black has a pull here, and that White is in a bind.

Mar-16-16		offramp: 40...Ra5 looks good.

Mar-16-16		lentil: draw agreed at time control

Mar-16-16		norami: Six isolated pawns make the endgame trickier than usual.

Mar-16-16		Ulhumbrus: Did he have to play the N back to d3? b4 supports it on c5

Mar-16-16		offramp: White was being squeezed and was in a bind and Black had a pull so the draw was too early.

Mar-16-16		Marmot PFL: What white played is good enough. Black has no way to attack the white pawns.

Mar-16-16		caifan461: Other three games ending in draw at move 30, weird.

Mar-16-16		Ulhumbrus: At the end White's king defends the e2 pawn while Black's king does not cover any pawns. This suggests that Black is in some trouble

Mar-16-16		Sally Simpson: Hi Sokrates, "You are really in a good mood today." Did I have a rant. No wonder. I was meant to be away at 2 pm where I intended to stay in the staff canteen on what the IT chaps (another bunch or weirdo's) call a dirty computer and watch and chat about the game. At 1:30 the drip calls in 'yet again' sick. Second time this month and about the 8th time this year. I had to cover for him. He will be back tomorrow and all the girls will flocking around him to make sure he is OK. It's pathetic. He has a pink box of tissues on him desk and does not play chess. Drip. Me? I throw one sickie (to watch chess) and I'm on the carpet for taking a day off and this always ends with a reminder about not logging onto chess sites during work. (the IT weirdo's are also rats.) Anyway it looks like the drip did me a favour. It turned into a dirge of a game when it could have blown up with Nxf7 here. click for larger view What is wrong with Topo. He needs to drop out of the top circuit because he is over estimating these clowns. Play a year full of Opens to get his confidence back, return and kick their talcum powdered butts into the middle of next week. 16.Nd3 was played. Never go back when you have a chance to go forward. Never defend when you have a chance to attack. If it's unclear go for it. I'm not just bumping my gums about this. It's what I do. Do you think here... G Chandler vs V Slaven, 1991 click for larger view I worked out what happens after I get a Knight on d6 when I sacced the pawn with 12.h4. Of course not. You just do it. Knights on d6 are good. Same game here... click for larger view Did I worked out 16.Bxh7+ Of course not. You just play it because I bet there has never been another classic Bishop sacrifice like it. Topo has bben spec sacking his whole career (OK some, the rare one, are sounder than mine) but he had sac chances in his other games here and never took them. Please come back Topo. Please. The game needs you. ---- And don't think the rest of you lot off the hit list. I've read through 5 pages of variations and suggestions and no diagrams. Look at this from some guy called parmetd: "Seems Nac5 is only good move here. White is not far from letting the position get out of hand. After Q trade position seemed nice for white with options like Nc2, Nb2 or Rfc1 but this one move Nd3? Gave black so much life." Where, when...what bloody game. For all we know he could posting on the wrong thread about a game played 100 years ago. If some of you are coming in from the live site and repeating on here word for word, variation upon variation the quotes of some chubby faced GM (who name is way beyond pronunciation for my Anglo Saxon tongue) at least drop on a diagram so we have an inkling of what on earth you/he/she/them are talking about. Jesus Wept. ---- Hi Tatumart, So Leo da Vinci, Gandhi, Thoreau, & old Ben Franklin where all veggies. So, apparently, was Hitler. (sorry don't have time to come up with a more researched and original come back.) Bono is a veggie. If not then he looks like one. Our teeth are designed to eat meat, out digestive system is designed to handle meat. That is why 3rd generation veggies are impotent. Fact! they cannot breed. They are no good to the species (that's us) and should be educated or terminated. The only good thing about a veggie is if you are ever marooned on a desert island with one, you can eat him.

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