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Magnus Carlsen vs Yue Wang
Nanjing Pearl Spring Tournament (2010), Nanjing CHN, rd 3, Oct-22
Russian Game: Modern Attack. Center Variation (C43)  ·  1-0

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Oct-22-10
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  kingscrusher: Game quotation maybe:

"Carlsen Wangles it to victory"

Oct-22-10  Bridgeburner: Wang Yue selected a strange defense as the doesn't seem to be much prospect of other than laborious defense. But his losing move came a move before the fatal queen exchange.

After <17...Qxd4 18. Kh2>:


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<18...Re8> loses. <18...h5> immediately and if <19. Qg3> then <19...Rc8> followed by <20...h4> would have seen him live to fight the better fight, eg: <18...h5 19. Qg3 Rc8 20. Nc3 (what else?) h4 21. Qf3 c6 22. Be3 Qe5+ 23. Bf4 Qf6>:


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Black lives on, especially as his king rook now serves a useful purpose.

Oct-22-10
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  kingscrusher: Just a brief note to my proposed game quotation:

"to obtain by persistent arguing or maneuvering : wangle"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...

Oct-22-10
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  kingscrusher: This is actually accidental genius because in fact:

"Wangle" is the transitive verb apparently of "Wrangle" - even better. I was thinking of "Wrangle". Oh come on - this must win the game quotation :)

Oct-22-10
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  tpstar: Yue Lie
Yue Better Work/Supermodel
Hey Nineteen
36 Minute Drill
Too Bad Natalia Pogonina Isn't Here
Oct-22-10
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  moronovich: Another game quotation : "How are Yue doing?".Pronouced with the same accent as Joey in "Friends" ;)

Or "I am black,I am white,I am a panda fried!"

Oct-22-10  jrlepage: ''What'' instead of ''How'' would also work just fine:)
Oct-22-10  jrlepage: Wang's record with the petrov: W6-L4-D27. Not bad, but not great. But those 27 draws might suggest that he waved the white flag to Carlsen right from the beginning.
Oct-22-10  whiteshark: And what would Yue do if Yue met a jibboo?
Oct-22-10
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  kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rebh...

Oct-22-10  SharpAttack: Game quotation - " Kiss Kiss Wang Wang.."
Oct-22-10  SugarDom: If it was a under 25 moves quickie, the pun will be "Wang Bam Thank You Mam"...
Oct-22-10  Marmot PFL: This looks like the way Marshall used to play the Petroff, as a counter-attacking line. Today though this is considered dubious, and the Petroff is usually played for a draw.
Oct-22-10  jmboutiere: 10...Ng4 without developing queenside could be a mistake, 10...c6 looks better and 8... O-O looks better than 8... Nf6
Oct-22-10  jmboutiere: After promoting with Liv, Carlsen is back.
Oct-22-10
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  keypusher: Capablanca vs Marshall, 1918
Oct-22-10  rubymaser: We shouldn't politicize this game, but let's do it anyway. Since it is essentially Norway vs. China so soon after the fallout from the Nobel Peace Prize seletion, I think the game quote should be: "Liu Xiaobo sent me to say F*@# YUE!"
Oct-22-10  percyblakeney: After Linares 2009 Carlsen has played seven games against Wang Yue, the score being five wins and two draws.
Oct-22-10  Ezzy:


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Modern chess - How to win without developing your queenside for 21 moves.

Oct-22-10  maelith: At Ezy, this is not modern chess, even on the time of Alekhine, you will see similar kinds of game, Magnus just move base on the requirement of the position
Oct-30-10  Yigor: <Bridgeburner> Thanx for indicating 18...h5 as a better move and an egalizing strategy. What about 18...f6? It was used in one game archived here.
Nov-01-10  Bridgeburner: <Yigor>

It's hard to see how good that move is from E Can vs O Yashkin, 2008 as both players made some mistakes.

But I suspect weakening the king side and delaying the development of the king rook is not good for Black, eg: if <18...f6>:


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After <19. Nc3 Kf7 20. Qg3 c6>:


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White can seize the long diagonal and cut the black queen off from the king side immediately with <19. Bf4> (instead of <19. Be3> and Black has hardly any play:


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If <19...Rae8 20. Rd1>:


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and I know who I'd be putting my money on. Black's king rook is still inactive and tied to the defense of the h-pawn. White has five very aggressive and active pieces all bearing down on the king, and it's hard to see how Black can survive.

Nov-01-10  Eyal: <Bridgeburner: Wang Yue selected a strange defense as the doesn't seem to be much prospect of other than laborious defense. But his losing move came a move before the fatal queen exchange.

After <17...Qxd4 18. Kh2>, <18...Re8> loses. <18...h5> immediately and if <19. Qg3> then <19...Rc8> followed by <20...h4> would have seen him live to fight the better fight, eg: <18...h5 19. Qg3 Rc8 20. Nc3 (what else?) h4 21. Qf3 c6 22. Be3 Qe5+ 23. Bf4 Qf6>>

In the 18...h5 line, White can improve with <21.Qg5>, denying the e5 square from the black queen, and it looks pretty bad for Black after 21...c6 22.Be3 Qb4 23.Bxa7 (23...Qxb2?? 24.Bc5+ Kg8 25.Bd4 and mate; 23...b6 24.Rf1 followed by Qf4, or 24...Ra8 25.a3 Qxb2 26.Bb8! Rxb8 27.Qf4). I suspect that the whole forcing sequence beginning with 12...Bh2+ is a bad idea for Black; maybe he should try 12...Nf6 instead, as in F Caruana vs Motylev, 2008.

Nov-01-10  Bridgeburner: <Eyal>

You're quite right about <21. Qg5>. That seems to win in all lines.

<I suspect that the whole forcing sequence beginning with 12...Bh2+ is a bad idea for Black>

Fully agree. Seems strange for Yue to have used it at all, as those sorts of two minor piece for one rook exchanges are usually compensated by heavy piece activity, which Black clearly didn't have.

<Yigor>

Regrettably my earlier <18...h5> analysis was wrong, and is just another losing line for Black.

Apr-19-12  Piyush Bajaj: 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7.Bxc4 Nbd7 8.a5 Bb4 9.Qa4 Qe7 10.O-O O-O 11.Be2 Ne4 12.Qb3 Rab8 13.Rd1 Bd6 14.Nxe4 Bxe4 15.Nd2 Bg6 16.Nc4 Bc7 17.Bd2 Rfd8 18.Bb4 Qg5 19.Bf3 a6 20.h3 Nf6 21.Bc5 Rd7 22.Bb6 Bxb6 23.Qxb6 Nd5 24.Qc5 h6 25.b4 Rdd8 26.Rd2 Bh7 27.Re1 Bg6 28.Kh2 Qf6 29.Ne5 Bh7 30.g3 Nc7 31.Bg2 Nb5 32.f4 Nd6 33.e4 Nb5 34.Ng4 Qg6 35.Rf1 f6 36.d5 Kh8 37.Rfd1 exd5 38.exd5 cxd5 39.Rxd5 Rdc8 40.Qb6 Bg8 41.R5d2 Qf7 42.Ne3 Qe6 43.Nd5 Rd8 44.Qxe6 Bxe6 45.Nb6 Re8 46.g4 Bb3
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