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Viswanathan Anand vs Veselin Topalov
Anand - Topalov World Championship Match (2010), Sofia BUL, rd 9, May-06
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Bernstein Defense Except Gligoric System (E53)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Viswanathan Anand vs Veselin Topalov (2010)


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May-07-10  VaselineTopLove: Topalov gets his revenge

Topalov vs Anand, 2005

May-07-10
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  scormus: <ajile .... nerves of steel> Much as I am hoping for Vishy to win, I have to admire Topalov's resilience under pressure. That escape was a remarkable achievement, the N-sac on f3 was typical of his fighting spirit.

The match is producing great chess, full of tension and drama, and I shudder to think of the mental pressure on both players. I will be sorry when it is over. I wouldn't want to see a return to the K-K marathons, but I feel 12 games is too few.

May-07-10  blind.sacrifice: any fully legible transcript of the press conference available yet?
May-07-10  call14: I think 14 game match is ideal (or 16?) than 12. But 24 looks too long to me.
May-07-10  Kazzak: <blind.sacrifice: any fully legible transcript of the press conference available yet?>

Kirsan's alien language superexperts are working on that.

May-07-10  kurtrichards: <...if you want to be entertained...> I don't want to be entertained.I've had enough of entertainment.I want quality chess...free of patzer-like mistakes.
May-07-10  Kazzak: <kurtrichards>
I would strongly recommend that you arrange an engine vs. engine match, at your leisure.

Enjoy.

May-07-10  SetNoEscapeOn: Perhaps this was 23rd century coffeehouse chess :)
May-07-10  Eyal: <23rd century chess>

Btw, for those who miss the reference - that's how Kramnik once described another epic battle between those two (Anand vs Topalov, 2005).

May-07-10  GABRILLEO: ChessGenius Mobile /NOKIA N70 shows the winmove in 1 second: 52. Kf5 3.45/10
May-07-10  GABRILLEO: Místake, posting the message to the wrong page
May-07-10
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  playground player: I was just looking at Capablanca vs. Alekhine, 1927 (anybody know what the purse was, for that grueling match?), comparing it to this championship match, and it raised a question in my mind.

When did queen-pawn openings become almost the only openings used in championship play? And why? Would somebody laugh out loud if his opponent played 1.e4?

May-07-10  Shams: <When did queen-pawn openings become almost the only openings used in championship play? And why?>

My understanding is computer prep has greatly increased the danger of walking into prepared lines. I think playing queen pawn openings is a way to lessen the danger. Nobody wants to die never having fired his weapon.

May-07-10
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  keypusher: <When did queen-pawn openings become almost the only openings used in championship play? And why? Would somebody laugh out loud if his opponent played 1.e4?>

Historically these things have gone back and forth. Botvinnik and Petrosian favored the QP and the English, but Smyslov and Tal played 1.e4 a lot. Karpov regularly played 1.e4 until he lost the title to Kasparov, then relied on 1.d4. Kasparov, who had relied on 1.d4 on his way up, played 1.e4 quite a lot in his matches. But maybe, as Shams suggests, computers have wrought a permanent change.

May-07-10  whatthefat: Of course if anyone wanted to totally avoid opening preparation, they could whip out 1.Nc3 safe in the knowledge that their WC opponent would not have devoted a minute of their preparation time to it.
May-07-10
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  keypusher: <call14: I think 14 game match is ideal (or 16?) than 12. But 24 looks too long to me.>

I think the arguments that 12 games or 14 games or 16 games is enough are pretty well founded from the competitive point of view. But from the aesthetic point of view, some really great chess games have been played late in 24 game matches.

May-07-10  diceman: <keypusher: Botvinnik and Petrosian favored the QP and the English, but Smyslov and Tal played 1.e4 a lot.>

and a guy named Fischer also made
e4 a little bit popular.

Back then 1.d4 d5 was considered the
opening of Alekhine, Capablanca.

May-07-10
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  moronovich: <whatthefat> 1.Nc3-c5 means that white shall be ready for the sicillian(on this level).

<diceman> Fischer played 1.c4 vs Spasski in Reykjavik when he stroke back from -2 and demolished the whole russian team .

May-07-10  whatthefat: <moronovich: <whatthefat> 1.Nc3-c5 means that white shall be ready for the sicillian(on this level).>

Fair point, that does make it difficult to avoid an eventual transposition to a Sicilian.

May-07-10  NARC: I like 44. Nd8 as an alternative.
May-07-10  sillybilly47: I could live with 16.
May-07-10  MrQuinn: I rather suspect that the real reason that there have been no e4 games in this short match is because of the rise of the Petrov and Berlin Wall. Both make winning with white a tedious and difficult proposition; the match is too short to take any safe draws, so no one is chancing 1. e4 and the drawish positions black can create virtually by force against it.
May-07-10  acirce: <I rather suspect that the real reason that there have been no e4 games in this short match is because of the rise of the Petrov and Berlin Wall. Both make winning with white a tedious and difficult proposition>

Yeah, as opposed to winning with white in the Slav line played three times in this match.

Neither the Petroff nor the Berlin equalizes by force (much less draws, of course) - then it would be played far more often.

And I don't think it's that likely that Topalov or Anand has been intending to play any of those openings on 1.e4, but obviously you can't rule it out.

May-07-10  slomarko: click on the "View photograph of this game" if you want to see the photograph of another game where Topalov had white.
May-08-10  Abdooss: <Playground Player> <I was just looking at Capablanca vs. Alekhine, 1927 (anybody know what the purse was, for that grueling match?), comparing it to this championship match, and it raised a question in my mind.>

The purse for the 1927 World Championship was at USD10,000 .. For the return match (which never materialized), Alekhine demanded the value of the 1927 purse, but not in its depreciated currency. He wanted it to be in gold coins too.

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