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| May-07-08 | | PhilFeeley: I never knew Alekhine's opening had been played this early. |
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| Nov-09-08 | | thebribri8: <PhilFeeley> This isn't Alekhine's opening. This is the Petroff. |
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May-13-09
 | | offramp: <24...Qxf7 317.67>
I am puzzled as to how you can be ahead by 317 pawns. There isn't that much material on the chesboard even of every pawn promotes. |
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| May-13-09 | | blacksburg: yeah, why do a lot of engines evaluate forced mate as around +320? is that just an arbitrary number? |
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Jul-12-09
 | | Honza Cervenka: 22.Bf4! Qb4 23.c3 would be quite pretty finish. Mohishunder was undoubtedly very strong chess player but modern "European" chess probably was not his main domain. Still he was capable to play with chess masters like Cochrane or Green very good games though this one is not the best example. |
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| Jul-12-09 | | Steven87: <blacksburg>
All programs work by assigning numeric values to various scenarios and evaluating. Typically, engines choose the line associated with the highest number (or lowest if evaluating for the opponent), known as the Min-Max algorithm.320 is far greater than the sum of all piece values (which is usually around 40-45), ensuring forced mate is chosen over piece captures. It is also likely greater than the numeric values assigned to any other position, ensuring that if the computer finds a forced mate, it will follow that line no matter what. This principle is also applicable if the computer finds it assesses a situation which would put itself in a mating net. |
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| Aug-10-09 | | WhiteRook48: these are prearranged |
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Feb-01-11
 | | scormus: What wonderful name for the sub-variation "bishop check line." Reminds me of a line for B in the Italian game that is very natural for beginners (and even some experienced players) to play, that the guys in our club called "book mistake variation." |
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| Oct-22-12 | | ICE2012: <Calli> <Oxford Companion gives the name as "Moheschunder, Bonnerjee". With Indian names, there is often confusion as to which is the surname.> I can clarify as I come from Calcutta. There is no confusion here - Bonnerjee or Banerjee, however is spell it, is the surname and also the last name. Anyone in this part of the world, will tell you that it is a very common surname and one of the several surnames for people with caste Brahmin. <Calli> <Benzol> <Moheschunder , therefore, should be combined as Bannerjee Moheschunder although which is the first and last name seems to be a matter of opinion.> Here Banerjee is the last name there is no confusion. His full name (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohesc...) is Mahesh Chandra Banerjee and in the modern day, he would be simply be called Mahesh, with Chandra a middle name. |
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| Dec-07-13 | | Billy Pilgrim: Why 7...Qc7? |
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| Dec-09-13 | | Billy Pilgrim: And why is it over? Plenty of moves left |
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Dec-09-13
 | | jnpope: <<Billy Pilgrim:> And why is it over? Plenty of moves left> Because it is mate in three... |
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| Jan-26-14 | | yureesystem: The final position is mate in four, starting with 25...Qc7 (not 25...Kb7 26.Qb6 mates) 26.Qb6+ Bb7 27.Qxc7+ Ka7 28.Qb6 mates!! |
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Feb-04-14
| | jnpope: Or White's third move can be 28.Bc5 mate. |
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Jan-27-17
| | offramp: It is such a colossal rivalry: <John Cochrane beat Bonnerjee Mohishunder 282 to 127, with 39 draws.> |
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| Feb-04-17 | | The Kings Domain: Cochrane had a combinational flair that certainly made him one of the best of his time. 4) Nxf7's certainly a charmer. 😊 |
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Feb-04-17
| | offramp: <The Kings Domain: Cochrane had a combinational flair that certainly made him one of the best of his time. 4) Nxf7's certainly a charmer. 😊> Yes, there are two good ways of opposing a Petroff if you want to annoy a Petroff player. 4. Nxf7 is the best but there is also the clever 5. c4
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as seen in eg Ding Yixin vs Shiqun Ni, 2015. |
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| Jun-29-18 | | The Kings Domain: Clash of east vs. west. Good game and fascinating history. |
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| Dec-19-18 | | Chessdreamer: Three years later, Cochrane vs Mohishunder, 1851, played until checkmate... |
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Apr-09-19
 | | dernier loup de T: Mohishunder was probably no more a youngster when he played this game: his memory seems here a little failing: he forgot that he played it already in 1848... |
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Apr-09-19
| | dernier loup de T: But if he could no more see very well in the past, maybe, as many people are thinking, like all good brahmins, he had premonitions and coud hear a voice coming from the future, which claimed: "on n'a jamais gagné une partie en abandonnant!!"; and so, he decided to play until mate this time.
Thanks anyway for your information, Chessdreamer!! |
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| Apr-09-19 | | An Indianman: Good morning: What the heck are you babbling about dernier loup de T? |
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Apr-09-19
 | | Sally Simpson: ***
This game is the same as Cochrane vs Mohishunder, 1848 except in that game Black resigned after 25. Bd6. In the game on this page Black played on to the mate. *** |
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| Jan-03-23 | | rwbean: 22... ♕c3 23. ♖af1 ♗xe6 24. ♖xg7 ♕g3 25. ♗f4 ♕xg7 26. ♗xd6+ ♔b7 27. ♗e5 ♕d7 28. ♗xh8 ♖xh8 is a better win for Black ... or 24. ♗f4 ♗xf4 25. ♖7xf4 ♕e3+
eval -3.48 (38 ply SF, 30 min) |
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| Sep-10-24 | | AnotherNN: White could have played 22.Bf4 QxQ 23.BxB is mate. If 22. ..Pe3+, Black loses the Queen (his Bishop is pinned). If 22. .. Qb4, then 23.c3 etc. |
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sac: 4.Nxf7